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Invoker Job Discussion (Rad/Ramza Skillset Updated!)

Started by Archael, November 16, 2008, 09:26:12 pm

Archael

November 24, 2008, 06:26:52 pm #40 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Archael
I saw the updated abilities list

looks good

they will have lots to do in many different situations

PX_Timefordeath

December 06, 2008, 11:58:49 am #41 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by PX_Timefordeath
LD, have you replaced the priest yet? If not I could probably come up with one.

The Damned

December 06, 2008, 02:21:09 pm #42 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by The Damned
Priest is now Cantor, which seems to be a mix of Bard and Priest.

Cantor just doesn't have its own thread at the moment, but it seems largely done.
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LastingDawn

December 06, 2008, 02:41:09 pm #43 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by LastingDawn
Correct, I will get to that, very soon. There are a few problems to address with that.
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PX_Timefordeath

December 06, 2008, 02:50:15 pm #44 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by PX_Timefordeath
Ehh... i was thinking of making the priest a more physical class with minor white magic, with two flails/spears, but I'll wait for the thread to pop up

The Damned

December 11, 2008, 09:45:44 pm #45 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by The Damned
Okay, while I'm around and since I bumped Gambler, I might as well ask something that's been bothering: Since Invoker is supposed to have all eight elements, is Engulf the Water Element? I'm asking because it just says "Poison", but there's no such Element (outside of FF7 and FF8 IIRC) and since it involves bubbles....

Also, I'm not sure if Voldemort7 told you or you already know, but currently 50% Knockback formula for Gust doesn't seem like it will take an Element (though that may just be the slots that it's already on; accursed Throw Stone).
"Sorrow cannot be abolished. It is meaningless to try." - FFX's Yunalesca

"Good and evil are relative, but being a dick cannot be allowed." - Oglaf's Thaumaturge in "The Abyss"

"Well, see, the real magic isn't believing in yourself. The real magic is manipulating people by telling them to believe in themselves. The more you believe, the less you check facts."  - Oglaf's Vanka in "Conviction"

LastingDawn

December 11, 2008, 09:53:40 pm #46 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by LastingDawn
Well the slots... the slots are the main trouble, I will probably need to retool gust.

Also yes, Deluge is Water, the only thing I could think fitting for Water and being in it for so long would be the after effects which would be pneumonia, in this case, poison.
"Moment's anger can revert to joy,
sadness can be turned to delight.
A nation destroyed cannot be restored,
the dead brought back to life."

Art of War

Beta & Gretchen Forever!!!!

The Damned

December 11, 2008, 11:39:24 pm #47 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by The Damned
Oh no. I had figured as much, but I just wanted to make sure.

(You might want to change it in the first post, especially since it's still listed as "Engulf", not "Deluge", which of course sounds watery [or at least liquid-y].)
"Sorrow cannot be abolished. It is meaningless to try." - FFX's Yunalesca

"Good and evil are relative, but being a dick cannot be allowed." - Oglaf's Thaumaturge in "The Abyss"

"Well, see, the real magic isn't believing in yourself. The real magic is manipulating people by telling them to believe in themselves. The more you believe, the less you check facts."  - Oglaf's Vanka in "Conviction"

Skip Sandwich

December 11, 2008, 11:53:38 pm #48 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Skip Sandwich
silence might also be a good choice, as I for one think i'd have a hard time concentrating while simultainously evacuating my lungs of water. Of course, it always bothered that the water element exists at all, since when does being splashed with water deal damage? I mean, if it were a high pressure blast of water then yes, that would hurt, but that would be physical damage anway, right?
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Dormin Jake

December 12, 2008, 12:44:27 am #49 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Dormin Jake
Quote from: "Skip Sandwich"silence might also be a good choice, as I for one think i'd have a hard time concentrating while simultainously evacuating my lungs of water. Of course, it always bothered that the water element exists at all, since when does being splashed with water deal damage? I mean, if it were a high pressure blast of water then yes, that would hurt, but that would be physical damage anway, right?
As would Earth and Wind.  I suppose it does physical damage to humans, because that's all it really can do.  It's a bit more hazardous to, say, a Bomb's health, which actually does involve an elemental reaction (being extinguished), or even some animal that can't swim that might be swept away by it.

I like Silence for water, too.  True, nothing really fits, I'm just inherently biased toward Silence.
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boomkick

December 12, 2008, 01:22:12 am #50 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by boomkick
how about sleep for water?

Dormin Jake

December 12, 2008, 01:28:49 am #51 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Dormin Jake
Because cold water in the face cancels sleep, as far as real world applications go?

I kid. 8)
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boomkick

December 12, 2008, 01:35:18 am #52 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by boomkick
Drowning someone causes them to go unconscious, no matter how cold the water is.

LastingDawn

December 12, 2008, 07:51:55 am #53 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by LastingDawn
Well keep in mind everyone, Silence is gone, replaced by Addle, Sleep a very powerful status, and Poison had it's power increased to never wear off, forcing one to die, or to cure it.
"Moment's anger can revert to joy,
sadness can be turned to delight.
A nation destroyed cannot be restored,
the dead brought back to life."

Art of War

Beta & Gretchen Forever!!!!

boomkick

December 12, 2008, 10:47:57 am #54 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by boomkick
Poison is for balance, but somewhat unfitting for a water element attack.
Sleep fits, but is strong.
Addle may be for something else.

Its up to you LD.

Dormin Jake

December 12, 2008, 11:01:51 am #55 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Dormin Jake
As Captain Planet shows us, pollution can certainly be found in water.  So I can totally dig it.

Also, recycle!
We are Dormin. Thou art to bring us a tasty beverage.

Skip Sandwich

December 15, 2008, 12:58:31 pm #56 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Skip Sandwich
Heart!
"Dave?  Are you there?"
"Yeah.  I can't get you through the cell now."
"You have to talk through the bratwurst from now on. I'm sorry. I didn't know it would do that."
http://www.johndiesattheend.com

DarthPaul

December 15, 2008, 02:40:38 pm #57 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by darthpaul
Earth, Fire, Wind, Water, Heart! Captain Planet he's our hero duhduhduh duh duh duh zero.
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Dormin Jake

December 15, 2008, 09:03:25 pm #58 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Dormin Jake
Quote from: "darthpaul"Earth, Fire, Wind, Water, Heart! Captain Planet he's our hero duhduhduh duh duh duh zero.
"gonna take pollution down to zero" duh.
We are Dormin. Thou art to bring us a tasty beverage.

DarthPaul

December 15, 2008, 09:05:02 pm #59 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by darthpaul
Thanks <_< >_> I'm i n your space bubble btw.
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