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Some small problems on the wiki

Started by Orkney, December 27, 2020, 01:28:08 pm

Orkney

December 27, 2020, 01:28:08 pm Last Edit: December 29, 2020, 03:03:01 pm by Orkney
Hello,

I spent some time on the wiki exploring the formulas, and I found some small problems.

1/ Some routines are missing from the page Routines location.

001876e4 : https://ffhacktics.com/wiki/Store_Reaction/Proc_ID_and_Target

00185d00 : https://ffhacktics.com/wiki/Store_PA_and_PA_+_Y_/_2

00188888 : https://ffhacktics.com/wiki/00188888_-_00188960 (pointed as Calculate Accuracy as User Faith * (MA + X)%)
from formula 1_4)

2/Some dulicate links

0013b590 :  accessible as https://ffhacktics.com/wiki/Get_Script_Variable from the routine location page, but still accessible from https://ffhacktics.com/wiki/0018e660_-_0018e6b4 as unknown_1. In unknown_1 there is a link that is supposed to go to 13b644 but in the page the code starts again at 13b590)

0018433c - two links accessible from the routine page, one of the links (here) specifies 2 return locations that I have not been able to find. The return location 00184360 is not present.

I hope that these are really anomalies, and not just a lack of competence on my part...

Edited the 29/12/20 : wrong first link for 0013b590
  • Modding version: PSX

nitwit

If something is present in let us say Battle.bin but not the Routines page, then look at the "What links here" link on the sidebar. For example:
https://ffhacktics.com/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Store_Reaction/Proc_ID_and_Target
BATTLE.BIN ‎ (← links)
02 Dmg (Weapon) ‎ (← links)
001876e4 - 0018772c (redirect page) ‎ (← links)
If it's missing a link to the Routines page, you could try adding it to that page. Do you need help editing the wiki? Why don't you give it a try and tell us if you have any problems?

As for duplicates, I would hesitate to mess around with them too much as someone may be doing something there that they didn't tell you about. Maybe edit the Talk page of that page and make a note that it's a duplicate, and link to the duplicate.

You usually want to retain the version with the most comments, but you don't want to mess up the link structure of the wiki either... hence why I advise caution with deletion and redirection.

It won't kill anyone to have a few duplicates floating around, especially if there are notes about them possibly being duplicates present.
  • Modding version: PSX

Orkney

Thanks for the tip !

I am willing to edit the wiki, I had no idea that everyone could do it.
I will try and report here.

I had made myself the same remarks with the duplicated links.
The problem is not so much the fact that there are two different pages, but rather that some pages point to only one of the two links.
Perhaps it should be pointed out on each of the two pages that there is another page dealing with the same routine

  • Modding version: PSX

Orkney

Looks like everything is ok.

I just added routine 001876e4. The link works.
I'll continue later. I'll also look to add the returns locations, if necessary and maybe also to point out the existence of duplicate pages on each page.
  • Modding version: PSX

nitwit

The special pages of the wiki have a few useful tools.

Orphaned pages are those that aren't linked to anywhere. If a disassembled routine is missing, look there first.

Double redirects is often informative.

All pages with a given prefix helps with searching in some cases.

List of redirects is handy.

List of duplicated files can in some cases help you find causes of increased hosting costs, but probably not for our wiki unless there's another spammer attack.

  • Modding version: PSX

EnderC

If there are duplicate pages, and one has more detail than the other, by all means set up a #REDIRECT to the more detailed page. It's easy enough to revert if this ends up breaking some other link, but redirects are the right tool to use so that this isn't a problem.
  • Modding version: PSX
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EnderC

Quote from: nitwit on December 28, 2020, 05:48:54 amIf something is present in let us say Battle.bin but not the Routines page...

This actually strikes me as the root of the problem. A wiki shouldn't have duplicate information in multiple locations, especially when that information isn't finished. One update later, and one page or the other is immediately out of date.
  • Modding version: PSX
  • Discord username: EnderC