Official Sprite Request Section (Rarely fulfilled)

jimmyjw88 · April 13, 2009, 10:20:40 pm

Ah...i see.
No wonder ehrgeiz20 said Marche is good bad guy while Llednar is bad good guy.
So it's because of their actions?

Zalge · April 13, 2009, 10:24:23 pm

Personally, I sided with Marche the entire time.

What they were doing was escapism. It is not healthy for the mind. I also connect with Marche in that he wished for the world too, he wanted to be there, but there is a time where the fun and games must stop and you have to face reality. Someone would have eventually broken all the crystals and tried to kill Mewt eventually. I mean, if YOU would get the power of the Totema by breaking some magic crystals, wouldn't you do that? And Mewt would just be standing in the way. Screw Mewt, I have Totema!... But then the world turns back to normal and everyone cries.

Eh, and I think Ritz would look cute with white hair anyway. But maybe she should darken it a bit to silver. Silver hair is cuter.
Sorry VG fantasies xD I feel stupid now.

Zalge · April 13, 2009, 10:27:32 pm

Quote from: "jimmyjw88"Ah...i see.
No wonder ehrgeiz20 said Marche is good bad guy while Llednar is bad good guy.
So it's because of their actions?

Marche is considered a good guy mainly because he is the star of the game. But in a sense he was bad because he wanted to destroy Mewt's Dream. But he was good because it would save Mewt from his escapism. But his character stats were horrible compared to all other unique characters.

Llednar was bad because he was basically Marche's antagonist. But he was good because he wished to defend the world that everyone loves. But he was bad because that world was hurting everyone, in a sense. But he was also good because his stats rocked.

beawulfx · April 13, 2009, 10:30:45 pm

Quote from: "Zalge"
Quote from: "jimmyjw88"Ah...i see.
No wonder ehrgeiz20 said Marche is good bad guy while Llednar is bad good guy.
So it's because of their actions?

Marche is considered a good guy mainly because he is the star of the game. But in a sense he was bad because he wanted to destroy Mewt's Dream. But he was good because it would save Mewt from his escapism. But his character stats were horrible compared to all other unique characters.

Llednar was bad because he was basically Marche's antagonist. But he was good because he wished to defend the world that everyone loves. But he was bad because that world was hurting everyone, in a sense. But he was also good because his stats rocked.

This post definitely sums it all up perfectly IMO. Also this topic has gotten quite sidetracked, heh.

jimmyjw88 · April 13, 2009, 10:30:50 pm

Lol. So that's why good bad and bad good.
But in the end, they are both two great person, right?

Kaijyuu · April 13, 2009, 10:31:04 pm

Quite honestly, I find it far harder to question Marche's actions than most other RPG heros. Marche was beating up and sometimes killing fake people in a fake world; most other heros kill "real" people in a "real" world. Plus he's the only one in FFTA that wasn't acting like a crybaby.

I realize that maturing is the moral of the story, but still, stupid and childish story... I'm sure that's been debated here too many times already, though.

Zalge · April 13, 2009, 10:34:55 pm

Quote from: "Kaijyuu"Quite honestly, I find it far harder to question Marche's actions than most other RPG heros. Marche was beating up and sometimes killing fake people in a fake world; most other heros kill "real" people in a "real" world. Plus he's the only one in FFTA that wasn't acting like a crybaby.

Stupid and childish story... but I'm sure that's been debated here too many times already.

Haha, true, very true. He was the only one (Besides Cid, once he got his 'memory' back) that was Mature enough to see that this world was bad.

Also the only place the people actually died was in a Jagd

beawulfx · April 13, 2009, 10:38:44 pm

Bottom line is, despite any grey areas it was a pretty bad story over all. Very little serious change or consequence on any grand scale. The end result of the entire game is return to exactly the same way things were, with a little more maturity for the children involved. FFTA was such a disappointment in so many ways. Enjoyable, but I was expecting it to at least hold a candle to FFT. If only they used the same battle system it would have been ten times better. They made it way too streamlined and simple though. Sad.

Oblivion · April 14, 2009, 12:39:23 am

Here's my theory of FFTA...

A typical trait in most FF games shows that the villain is the one who tries to destroy the crystals. The games end with the heroes defeating the villains and the crystals are safe as wellas the rest of the world. But, in FFTA that isn't the case. Marche, the "hero" of the story, is the one trying to destroy the crystals and ultimately does in the end. Even though his friends are all trying to stop him from doing so, he still does it anyways. Marche does see that they are happier, but he still presses on his goal: destruction of the dream world. Since this is the case, Marche can be seen as the villain of the story. That would make the heroes the ones that protected the crystals: Llednar, Remedi, and the Totema. So this would make FFTA the 1st FF game where the villain wins and the heroes lose.

The dream world also allowed for others dreams to come true, not just Mewt's. Ritz's hair wasn't white (btw, she looks better with white hair), Cid went from poor to the highest authority in the land, Doned, Marche's parapalegic little brother, could walk! Mewt's of course was him being the ruler of the land; no one could pick on him anymore. Marche's was that he made friends, got stronger, and became the leader of a large group of people where people looked to him for guidance, and he got to go on a cool adventure in an interesting world, but he gave all that up so he could live a real life in the real world. He ignored his friends and accomplishd his somewhat selfish goal.

Now, onto Llednar...

First of all, Llednar's full name is, Llednar Twem, is Mewt's name spelled backwardsand he pwns. Llednar is everything Mewt isn't. Llednar is strong, brave, and mean; Mewt isn't. This makes him the embodiment of Mewt's darker side. Li-Grim creates him in order to stop Marche from destroying the dream world and he serves as Mewt's guardian. Li-Grim also places a fortune law upon him rendering him invincible, yet he fails to stop Marche. Marche's is only able to beat Llednar when Cid uses his Almighty law card to remove the fortune law, making him killable. Marche beats him and he turns to stone, since he's not actually a real.

My opinion of the game is that it wuz a major dissapointment compared to orginal FFT. FFTA2 was worse. But that's just my opinion. I really wanted to be able to use Llednar... Btw, I think he looks like Marche.

jimmyjw88 · April 14, 2009, 04:55:52 am

Ok...So, generally, it can say that they are both neutral, because of their actions opposites with their goodness and badness?
One is good with bad actions while the other is bad with good actions?
0.o

Oblivion · April 14, 2009, 11:48:03 pm

Quote from: "jimmyjw88"Ok...So, generally, it can say that they are both neutral, because of their actions opposites with their goodness and badness?
One is good with bad actions while the other is bad with good actions?
0.o

correct.

jimmyjw88 · April 14, 2009, 11:56:45 pm

Lol. Ok guys. Thanks alot for the info ^^
And like beowulfx said, its sidetracking from the topic.
I'm sorry for the sidetracking as I'm the one who asked the question about Marche and Llednar.
Anyway, thanks alot.

Oblivion · April 15, 2009, 12:03:21 am

Quote from: "jimmyjw88"Lol. Ok guys. Thanks alot for the info ^^
And like beowulfx said, its sidetracking from the topic.
I'm sorry for the sidetracking as I'm the one who asked the question about Marche and Llednar.
Anyway, thanks alot.

no prob. and yes too much sidetracking.

Oblivion · April 17, 2009, 12:03:53 pm

Quote from: "Zozma"Green = Someone working on sprite
Red = Requested but not picked up by anyone
Current Requests:

Llednar (Final Fantasy Tactics Advanced)

hey zozma shouldnt llednar be green now since i'm workin on him?

Zozma · April 18, 2009, 12:25:53 am

why yes.. yes he should

Smash · April 18, 2009, 12:29:48 am

Wtf.

I never noticed the list on the first page.

Now that I did, Gabranth, Issac and Flan are a possibility.

Zozma · April 18, 2009, 12:31:38 am

not many of them have been picked up but the few completed ones were removed from the list.

(flan is soooo Final fantasy...)

jimmyjw88 · April 18, 2009, 01:43:30 am

I would've pick them up if I'm good at spriting ^^
Unfortunately, I'm not. I love to help out all these sprites but I'm not good.

Oblivion · April 18, 2009, 01:49:37 am

i noticed that there was a name on the list i didn't know: kaze from ffu. i did some searchin and found a pic of him. i think kaze's sprite can be made using the vincent sprite that unknown and green archer made.

I think it would be possible.
(photobucket doesnt do so well with sprites...)

Zozma · April 18, 2009, 02:04:07 am

the guys name is "wind" ?

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