Final Fantasy Hacktics

Quote from: "Asmo X"I post some corn and people think they know me.

This is the truest statement of this thread

QuoteMay I? BP, you don't know what you're talking about. You don't even have a notion. We discuss this forum in channel constantly (where every discussion of worth happens), and I have offered suggestion after suggestion about how it could be improved. I just now sent a PM to Zodiac with even more suggestions, none of which call for the deletion of ANYTHING. On the other hand, we have, in this thread, about half a dozen people running around with their hands in the air, warning of deletions and tyrants and cliques and insensitivity and how something simply MUST be done about the New Projects forum, without offering anything approaching a good solution. If I come across as constantly negative, do consider for a moment, that it might be because of the neverending tide of horseshit that is posted in this forum and may not necessarily have to do with my demeanor generally. I post some corn and people think they know me.

/end of thread

- Blaise Pascal

I'm back...

Asmo, I admit, I have done some of the running with hands in the air. But maybe if you told people why it was HS, in a nice(if at all possible) way lol, then people could actually see the 'other side' of you. They claim to have only seen the mean comments you post of them. You could prove 'em wrong. And I still stand by what I said before: A guide section would help this a bit. If there was a presented forum where only guides were stored, there would be less useless patches, because people would be able to do them. Some new members may have amazing ideas but no way to make them possible. And another thing I stand by: Request to delete dead topics(requested by poster, unless poster left or died jk) would also be effective. Maybe if a PM was sent to the dead topic's poster requesting permission to delete the topic in question, and it would be deleted in two weeks if they did not reply back, maybe that would be a sensible solution. It's not perfect... but it is the only thing I can think of right now....

I just can't understand it... this is not a time for harsh words and simple quotes to try and justify points. All you Both are doing is alienating yourselves from the community that you both proclaim that you can help. To get anywhere at this point (all you both are doing are saying that you won't ruin the community) in the worst possible way. This isn't a matter of "blunt honesty" this is a matter of hard-headedness. As it appears, whether it is true or not, I don't know. You both seem to think you're "above" the common member. We are all just members. We have our moderator status only because we head projects. In essence it's not a rank of leadership or anything like that. The only person that would hold it would be the moderator for the New Projects forum and Zodiac.

The people see this as a "clique" because that is what you present yourselves as. It's a poor way to go about doing things.

You rule LastingDawn! I really think you and/or Cheetah should be moderator. It's the wisest choice. And for everyone out there: it's not favoritism, because LastingDawn said that he was staunch against my FFT patch when he first thought it was going to be about sexual sprites, thank goodness I corrected that (error on my part), I didn't extrapolate very well... I hope you forgive me LastingDawn!

Dominic or Asmo. Asmo is a very decent guy and I am sure he would show this if he were to head the new projects forum. A slight change in attitude would be preferable though. If not him then Dominic. Level headed, can stand his ground very well. Also has a great scope on the situation surrounding this section. Cheetah is also Far too busy working on Chronicles of Kanbabrif. Not to mention he and I are both moderator's of other sections of the forums as it stands.

Quote from: "LastingDawn"I just can't understand it... this is not a time for harsh words and simple quotes to try and justify points. All you Both are doing is alienating yourselves from the community that you both proclaim that you can help. To get anywhere at this point (all you both are doing are saying that you won't ruin the community) in the worst possible way. This isn't a matter of "blunt honesty" this is a matter of hard-headedness. As it appears, whether it is true or not, I don't know. You both seem to think you're "above" the common member. We are all just members. We have our moderator status only because we head projects. In essence it's not a rank of leadership or anything like that. The only person that would hold it would be the moderator for the New Projects forum and Zodiac.

your head seems to be a little in the clouds today friend

Asmo hasn't said any harsh words at all

all he posted is truth

people are way over-reacting to the idea of him as moderator


WAY

but don't take my word for it (him being the best choice)

we'll see what Zodiac decides

QuoteIf not him then Dominic. Level headed, can stand his ground very well. Also has a great scope on the situation surrounding this section.

 I love Dominic but I can't say I agree with this

he can stand his own ground very well, that's great

but I don't think he understand the situation as well as asmo does

nor has he been on this site long enough

nor does he have the same understanding of what makes a FFT hacking idea good and efficient

Asmo has contributed to tons of projects and work idea-wise, way more than Dominic has

and I'm pretty sure his attitude wouldn't be a problem either

lol @ ppl stirring themselves into a frenzy over this

Oh, ok. I didn't know you both were so busy... Why not have two moderators who would have to agree on something? (for those who are sooo against Asmo)

To be frank, I feel that there really isn't much of a problem. In terms of new and active patches, there are very few coming through, and the few that are have their own sections. Can any of you name a currently worked on patch in "New patches" that contains some merit?

Asmo has made it clear that he doesn't want the position, there's a few reasons for that, but primarily if he had to work on the site he would stop enjoying it, that alone is reason enough for him NOT to be a moderator, despite how good he would be at it.

Yes, Asmo can be insensitive, yes he can be cruel, callous, and other words meaning "mean", but he is also honest, and has a sense of design that's remarkable and with a bunch of great ideas. He is constantly innovaing and there are very few people on this site who can match that. This is why I feel he should be made mod, even against his own desire.

QuoteVoldemort, I've got news about pussies... I HAVE ONE. I'm a girl!

Congratulations, here is your standard one vote, just like everyone else.

Many of my current forums have 3-4 mods modding multiple sections. Usually the vote is left up to two in how to handle bigger situations. We're not big enough for that, plus we're actually doing work unlike the other forums. So, HM, I don't think we're big enough to have multiple mods per section yet, outside of projects, unless people are willing to take time away from their patches and lives. Zozma and Cheetah have the sprite forum but it's a lot easier to maintain an image forum over an entire concept forum.

Also I'm getting this vibe...
Daddy's Favorite: Oh yea, brother? Just wait until daddy gets home.

I guess you are right, SydneySoul. It's just I don't know what else to do. Almost no one else has a sensible solution. Not saying my solutions are sensible, it's just I think they are, or else I would not post them.

Quote from: "Voldemort"your head seems to be a little in the clouds today friend

Asmo hasn't said any harsh words at all

all he posted is truth

people are way over-reacting to the idea of him as moderator


WAY

but don't take my word for it (him being the best choice)

we'll see what Zodiac decides

His post while excellent for the first part devolves into mere insults at the end. While quite clever, it hurts the case. (I suppose that's all how you view it though, simply my view)It probably should have been more directed at you, in the regards to seeming rather condescending in these matters. (I can understand where you're coming from though, you want to see us get more support, and limiting the typical dream patch would help us to do that, but I really don't feel it neccessary) as it stands all of the new projects are getting the appropriate amounts of attention. The only thing to fear is if a project of no worth shows up. The people are smarter then that and Any moderator would be able to shut such a notion down almost immediately.

I agree, Voldemort. Asmo or Dominic, both would make fine moderators. What should be done though is cleaning up the image of the sponsor and his choice. You are known for being rather crass, yet accepting, it really depends on the issue.

Unfortunately Asmo's reputation has been hurt through a myriad of things he's done. Whether jokingly done or not. This makes him viewed as "bad" in the eyes of the people. A person that "everyone loves to hate" cannot work, in such a place. I know he'll be a great moderator, you know that, but do the people? That in itself is my main worry here.

I don't know Asmo. He's never really put me on any bad spotlight. But he did comment on my topic as to where I saw no one understood me, so that's a good point. After some bad comments, I got it back on track with LastingDawn's help. I just assumed from others' opinions that he was 'bad news'. I see now it was a mistake. Please forgive me, Asmo! I mean, anyone can be mean, it's just more prevalent in others... I no this one girl who is so honest... it does hurt, but if you look past the pain, usually you see some truth in it. Unless it's just gossip. Sorry Asmo, for 'ass'uming.

-'ass' being on my part.

But if Asmo doesn't want it... does Dominic?

Quote from: "HatterMadigan"I don't know Asmo. He's never really put me on any bad spotlight.

g o d dammit man, Asmo hasn't ever put you in a bad spotlight because YOU'VE BARELY BEEN HERE AT ALL


I hate to be rude but you guys with extremely new inactive accounts need to stay out of this

no offense

but your opinion for this is irrelevant

you just don't have any significant amount of time and/or interaction spent on this site to know the people involved

none of them

My account isn't really new. I've been here three months, actually. It's just my life hasn't really allowed much free time until now. I usually just read, because I have no time to post with my slow typing skills. I am usually much more on-top-of things. My posts have mostly been recently, or in the distant past.

Like it or not Voldemort, it's these people we attract. All new people will have to learn what it means. They are what this conversation is really about by this point. These decisions directly affect them. This is why all of the moderators should have a good image, at least. You see, with Hatter for instance. A lot of the forum paints Asmo as a bad person, many new people will think this. What the people think of their leaders makes a large difference.

Quote from: "HatterMadigan"My account isn't really new. I've been here three months, actually. It's just my life hasn't really allowed much free time until now. I usually just read, because I have no time to post with my slow typing skills. I am usually much more on-top-of things. My posts have mostly been recently, or in the distant past.

that's ok

my point still stands tho

Maybe people could, you know, stop equating me with Satan. That'd be pretty big of them.

Ok, and you make your point. I haven't been here for a long time.

I don't think you're Satan, Asmo. Maybe a minion lol jk
You just have a blunt tongue.