Jon's Sprites

[Jon]

@Vanya- You have a point, ummm, Smash, if you do fix up the sprite, could you find a solution for that too please? Either way, how often do we actually see the side view of a unit anyway in combat, probably not too much to worry about it

[jimmyjw88]

Well, for female, the coat will be the main feature. Short coat and sexy? xD

[mav]

The male Cannoneer needs some serious shading work (you can blame me, due to the color reduction). Look at the messiness of the forward-facing frame's coat. What is that dark stuff by the arms? Even some of the other poses need some shading revision: the intermediary shade is relatively absent all over.

[Jon]

Yep, that is why I am leaving it all to Smash I know that this is probably laziness, but I have no idea how to shade properly. Smash, please save this sprite! Also, Jim, that is a good idea. How about the female version has long hair and sorta has a Tifa-like upper body with what you said, a small/short coat, like Squall wears or something and then a dress like the female Mediator? Any ideas are welcome, this is most likely the next sprite I will do along side Vivi (if I don't screw him up too much...)

[jimmyjw88]

For female version, here's what I have in mind:
- A hat, either same as male or different a little bit.
- Long hair.
- Show her half of upper body, breast or V shape.
- A short skirt.
- A coat from Mediator/Oracle, most probably Mediator; Oracle is kinda big.
- Long sleeves, short or sleeveless.
- Not sure about boot yet. Maybe Female Archer, Geomancer or something.

Roughly like that. ^^

[Jon]

Sounds good. I think like this:
-same hat
-definetly long hair
-similar upper body as Tifa
-short skirt is good, or sorta like Agrais has it, half skirt in back with pants
-short coat that goes only down to where her stomach is
-long sleaves
-depending on skirt depends on shoes

Also, for now you can make the Cannoneer a generic unit by replacing the joyfully-weak Bard, but it would be awesome if at one point (after it is complete 100%) that I will make color variations. That way we can get rid of the Geomancer...

[mav]

That sounds kind of impractical for a Cannoneer. Why not base it on Faris's design from FFV? Check it out:


It may be tough to pull off, but I think a bust enhancement and color modification of the male Thief will work for the basic jacket design. Then just do whatever you want with the hair and boots.

[Jon]

Mmmmm, I smell the day when we can add total custom battle animations created from scratch approaching...okay, most likely not...still, here are all the FF5 Cannoneers with cannon poses too. It would be so great to see a cannon in action on a FFT battlefield *sniff*, such a wonderful thought...



...I think Lenna or Cara would be better than the masculine looking Faris...oh snap man, Faris doesn't even have 'The Hat'. It must be in both male and female versions, that is just a personal must for me...

[mav]

Hmm...yeah, I can see why you'd rather go with Lenna or Cara; they're perfect examples of feminine Cannoneers...those hats just seem challenging. I'm not doubting your skill level, I just want you to go with something very feasible. If I had to pick one of the two, I'd go with Lenna: Cara's outfit looks like an unnecessary hassle, and on top of that it's more kiddish than feminine.

[jimmyjw88]

Ah, you already have reference. In that case, I would definitely go for the red one.

[Smash]

Lenna all the way.


I once read that Faris was more fitting to sport a piratey look (Erm.. what may be the correct word.. duh..?) instead of the traditional french army cannoneer look.

[Cheetah]

Yeah Lenna definitely looks like a great female Cannoneer. Though I'm not a fan of the pink hair, but easy to change if needed.

[jimmyjw88]

Well, pink hair is kinda unique though. No pink hair in FFT so far. Excluding Zozma's Melodia that is...

[Jon]

Naw, a generic is a generic. Lenna it is, but with the typical dirty blondish brown hair like all the rest, then whoever wants can edit that and make a special unit out of it )...if that is alright with y'all...

[mav]

Hmm...I don't think the male Cannoneer's hate would look good on a woman, but it's all up to you.

[jimmyjw88]

Well, its your sprite. So its your call, though I have to agree that this is a generic. So with pink hair will make the sprite stand out too much, which equivalent to being special.

EDIT: And about the hat, use that Lenna's hat. Don't use male's hat. Not gonna fit nicely.

[Smash]

EDIT: And about the hat, use that Lenna's hat. Don't use male's hat. Not gonna fit nicely.

This.


I could take some minutes off and work the hat out. *Im being fusilated with a crapload of math tests, design class work, and history of arch. tests along with goddamn essays all in one week..! sdfsadgsdgasdgasdag*

[jimmyjw88]

Whoa...Steady...Well, sprite can come later. Real life first.All the best.

[mav]

Righto, always let real life come first: this is a hobby, after all. So what pieces should be used to make this sprite? Agrias, a custom hat, and what?

[Jon]

Hey! What the hell am I paying you for, Smash?!! Get back to work!! Oh wait, I ain't paying you...haha...take all the time you want with the cannoneer sprite Jim, Mav and Kage, you all in college/uni too?? )