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What is love?

Started by SickBastard, June 04, 2009, 02:24:19 pm

Pickle Girl Fanboy

June 04, 2009, 08:15:51 pm #20 Last Edit: June 04, 2009, 08:37:00 pm by Pickle Girl Fanboy
You know that one scene in Fight Club, where Tyler is in the bath and Jack is holding a towel to his bleeding face, and Tyler says something like, "do we really need another woman?"  That scene made me think, "If I always attract manipulative cunts and nut jobs, it must be something I'm doing.  The only common denominator in all my failed relationships is me."

So I'm not looking for love, thinking about love, or allowing myself to get attached to anyone.  I'm focusing on ME; I can't fix another person, but I can fix myself.  Maybe if I improve myself enough, I'll attract women I like.

Love, for me, is finding someone whose flaws I can tolerate and who can tolerate mine.

DP, I'm curious, what do you think beauty is?  A perfectly proportioned form?  Something broken and rebuilt into something stronger?  I'm talking abstracts here.

DarthPaul

June 04, 2009, 08:16:43 pm #21 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by darthpaul
To change I would have to lie to myself until I believed it. I may be better off but still I would (at least feel) like I deceiving myself.

I may be cynical, but at least I am true to myself which seems sad.
Oh pitiful shadow lost in the darkness, bringing torment and pain to others. Oh damned soul wallowing in your sin, perhaps...it is time to die

Pickle Girl Fanboy

June 04, 2009, 08:24:48 pm #22 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Pickle Girl Fanboy
Am I ever going to gain 15 lbs of muscle?  Probably not, considering my frame.  But lying to myself to stay motivated and follow a regimen is undoubtedly good for me.

Archael

June 04, 2009, 08:29:51 pm #23 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Archael
Quote from: "philsov"
Quote from: "darthpaul"And maybe your right, I dunno. Maybe love was ruined for me by experience and over thinking.


To tell everyone that any unconditional love they have both given and received is false takes a metric asston of proof. To have met someone who has experienced or caused such emotion and action is sufficient proof in its existence. It isn't required that you yourself directly observe or participate in unconditional love for it to exist.

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Which makes you cynical and jaded, and thus suspect to all other advances, which makes you more cynical and jaded, which causes you to turn inward even more, etcetcetc.  

It's a nasty loop, but suffice to say it's only "ruined" if you want it to be.  You have the power to change that.

^ this

the fact that DP has not experienced unconditional love says nothing about its existence or non-existence

you are smart enough to know this DP



I hope you find unconditional love in your lifetime DP, and that you are smart enough to open up your shell for it to develop into something nice

like philsov said, if you close yourself off, you'll never find it for obvious reasons, but don't think for a second that your experience necessarily = everyone else's

DarthPaul

June 04, 2009, 08:36:51 pm #24 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by darthpaul
..........Well I guess you make a point Voldemort...

@death is the road to awe My thoughts on beauty in a human are based solely on the persons actions and attitude.
Oh pitiful shadow lost in the darkness, bringing torment and pain to others. Oh damned soul wallowing in your sin, perhaps...it is time to die

Zozma

June 04, 2009, 08:45:38 pm #25 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Zozma
hah
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DarthPaul

June 04, 2009, 08:46:34 pm #26 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by darthpaul
Quote from: "Zozma"hah

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Oh pitiful shadow lost in the darkness, bringing torment and pain to others. Oh damned soul wallowing in your sin, perhaps...it is time to die

Pickle Girl Fanboy

June 04, 2009, 08:49:09 pm #27 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Pickle Girl Fanboy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsCXZczTQXo

Reminds me of Castlevania.

Zozma

June 04, 2009, 08:50:53 pm #28 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Zozma
its just a vague word that's used to give a simple answer about ones feelings towards someone else, different for each person i guess and easier to say then "i care for you a lot"
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Wiegraf: Draw your sword Ramza!
Ramza: But im a monk!!

DarthPaul

June 04, 2009, 08:53:17 pm #29 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by darthpaul
Quote from: "Zozma"its just a vague word that's used to give a simple answer about ones feelings towards someone else, different for each person i guess and easier to say then "i care for you a lot"

So you think the word love is a simplification of a more accurate phrase.
Oh pitiful shadow lost in the darkness, bringing torment and pain to others. Oh damned soul wallowing in your sin, perhaps...it is time to die

Zozma

June 04, 2009, 08:57:56 pm #30 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Zozma
yeah

i trust you, i really care for you, damn you're sexy, i want to spend time with you, etc etc all crammed together.

but i guess theres some shit in there too...
"i hate this about you but the above stuff outweighs that" etc...
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Wiegraf: Draw your sword Ramza!
Ramza: But im a monk!!

Algus

June 04, 2009, 09:17:11 pm #31 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Algus
hey Zozma who are you talking to ? Dathpaul or Dead Is The Road To Awe ?
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DarthPaul

June 04, 2009, 09:20:27 pm #32 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by darthpaul
Oh shit Algus is has come back from hell......again.
Oh pitiful shadow lost in the darkness, bringing torment and pain to others. Oh damned soul wallowing in your sin, perhaps...it is time to die

Zozma

June 04, 2009, 09:23:10 pm #33 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Zozma
!!!! w-what??? omg a real sentence from YOU, Algus!? *looks out the window and sees that pigs are flying* then *turns on the tv to hear a news report that the earth's insides, hell, has frozen over*

well anyway, to answer... not necessarily either one. more like going back on my initial statement of "there is no such thing as love" , after listening to everyones comments, and explaining that its not really something specific but i can't argue that it exists in the form of a combination of other feelings which can even include a few negative ones that get outweighed.
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Wiegraf: Draw your sword Ramza!
Ramza: But im a monk!!

DarthPaul

June 04, 2009, 09:25:28 pm #34 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by darthpaul
Don't forget the fat ladies singing on every corner in every city on the planet.
Oh pitiful shadow lost in the darkness, bringing torment and pain to others. Oh damned soul wallowing in your sin, perhaps...it is time to die

Algus

June 04, 2009, 09:36:08 pm #35 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Algus
Quote from: "darthpaul"Oh shit Algus is has come back from hell......again.

What!!!  :evil: I'll burn your soul with my Dark Holy.... prepare to die!!!!
muahahaha!!!!
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DarthPaul

June 04, 2009, 09:41:23 pm #36 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by darthpaul
Quotehell, has frozen over

Odd enough the first mention of hell, in Inferno, has the innermost circle of hell being Cocytus the lake of ice.
Oh pitiful shadow lost in the darkness, bringing torment and pain to others. Oh damned soul wallowing in your sin, perhaps...it is time to die

Algus

June 04, 2009, 09:45:43 pm #37 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Algus
Quote from: "darthpaul"Odd enough the first mention of hell, in Inferno, has the innermost circle of hell being Cocytus the lake of ice.

What !? I never hear about that. Lake of Ice  ?
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Zozma

June 04, 2009, 09:48:34 pm #38 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Zozma
d00d! its the lake of ice, c'mon! e'erbody knows that!
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Wiegraf: Draw your sword Ramza!
Ramza: But im a monk!!

Algus

June 04, 2009, 09:57:37 pm #39 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Algus
I know about the lake of ice, but is that true I mean the lake of ice has in the innermost circle of hell.
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