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Title: The Lion War - FAQs
Post by: Elric on September 28, 2019, 08:59:34 am
This will be updated as new questions come up, currently I'm just posting what I project to be the most asked questions.


How do I get to see the Agrias Birthday Event?
You need to land on Warjilis on June 22nd, with at least 500,000 gil as well as Lavian and Alicia in your party. We found no good way to add this to all towns, without eating up precious worldmap space.

We don't have the derpy extremely OP lipstick item in the PSX version, what do I get for the Agrias Birthday event?
A free Setiemson.

I can only use 2 of Ashley Riots moves! Help!
Yes, while Ashley Riot has 10 abilities in his skillset, he can only use 2 at a time, based on the type of weapon he has equipped. You can view the specific weapon requirements in the ability descriptions. This is why Ashley Riot comes with innate Equip/Change.

What are the requirements to unlock the Dark Knight job?
Level 8 Knight & Level 8 Wizard.

Why can't I preview the Dark Knight as a male when a female has unlocked it, or vice versa?
The Extra Job hack we use uses the Unused Gender data from Bard and Dancer to create the additional class. As such, you will not see Dark Knight for preview on female when unlocking it as a male, and vice versa. This is not a bug. It's the way the hack functions.

Did you guys add in the increased JP cost for abilities and such from WotL?
No, we did not.

Title: Re: The Lion War - FAQs
Post by: fennieyuen on September 29, 2019, 09:20:53 am
Is it me, or is the difficulty of TLW easier than Wotl?
I remember having difficulty in the random encounters in Wotl 😅😅
Title: Re: The Lion War - FAQs
Post by: Nyzer on September 30, 2019, 09:25:13 pm
When Elric and I were discussing this, the plan was to make it level 8 Wizard and Knight.

The WotL requirements for Dark Knights are complete bullshit. Unless you're berserk frog farming or getting a LOT of multiplayer in, you simply will not unlock the job. And while it's certainly a powerful enough job, when you compare it to the requirements for the Arithmetician, or even certain special characters' base jobs... it's beyond laughable.
Title: Re: The Lion War - FAQs
Post by: TerrorSkeith on October 06, 2019, 02:30:30 am
will there eventually be an option with WoTL's translation? or will you be keeping the patch only with the PSX translation?
Title: Re: The Lion War - FAQs
Post by: Elric on October 06, 2019, 02:33:00 am
Quote from: TerrorSkeith on October 06, 2019, 02:30:30 am
will there eventually be an option with WoTL's translation? or will you be keeping the patch only with the PSX translation?


Someone else can make one using this as a base. I hated the WotL translation, so the chances of that happening are very very low
Title: Re: The Lion War - FAQs
Post by: lokisage on October 10, 2019, 01:05:16 pm
whats the expected reward for Agrias Birthday Event? Tynar Rouge is exclusive to Wotl right?
Title: Re: The Lion War - FAQs
Post by: Elric on October 10, 2019, 01:07:08 pm
Its one of the perfumes. Its listed in the bug reporte section, as it was added to version 1.02...
Title: Re: The Lion War - FAQs
Post by: Nyzer on October 10, 2019, 03:18:16 pm
Setiemson or w/e the name is
Title: Re: The Lion War - FAQs
Post by: DarthFutuza on November 20, 2019, 11:21:01 pm
There's no onion knights right?  Also is there a full change log/feature list somewhere or is digging through this thread (http://ffhacktics.com/smf/index.php?topic=10179.0) basically it?
Title: Re: The Lion War - FAQs
Post by: Elric on November 21, 2019, 01:50:34 am
There is a thread called changelog, in this section...
Title: Re: The Lion War - FAQs
Post by: DarthFutuza on November 21, 2019, 04:04:48 am
For those (http://ffhacktics.com/smf/index.php?topic=12081.0) who are apparently as blind as me.
Title: Re: The Lion War - FAQs
Post by: ibostyle11 on December 14, 2019, 03:43:58 am
First I'd like to thank you all for this once again. It's an insane amount of work to do as much as you all do. Definitely doesn't fall upon blind eyes with me!

I read through all 17 pages of the initial discussion, the changelog, the base patch resource folder structure breakdown, and the download thread; so forgive me if I've still managed to miss the answer to the questions I'm about to ask...

1. I saw that Elric said he had no idea about the formulas used for 19 and 46, but is it possible for Choto to chime in on what the formulas are?

2. Meliadhoul's skillset - Is it still as in vanilla, or is it set as it was with the PSP version?

Maybe I should ask these next questions in the resource thread, but I'm already asking questions here so...

3. I see that the newly added Dark Knight skills say formula 00 while having sword required. But they're absent from the ARH. Are these hardcoded, or can I switch the formula used in the patcher and still have it work accordingly?

4. Considering the fact that sword required and Materia Blade required look to be changed in the base version, would using an ASM hack that changes the materia blade require to something else being required conflict with the changes you put in place?

5. Considering the built in changes to formulas that this copy has, would ASMs that alter formulas 11 and 13 conflict with anything that you didn't mention within the changes made?

Thanks in advance for the heads up on these things.
Title: Re: The Lion War - FAQs
Post by: Nyzer on December 14, 2019, 02:09:25 pm
I'm pretty sure the new Dark Knight skills just point at the regular Weapon Damage formula, but don't quote me on that. AFAIK there shouldn't be a problem with changing their formula, as their weapon requirements ought to be dependent on their ability slots rather than their formula.

I'm sure that another hack to change any further weapon requirements would cause a conflicting error, as, given Ashley Riot's moveset, I expect the ARH hack from Jot5 is involved. It would be best to make any further adjustments in that, and I'm sure there's a spreadsheet for that. I just haven't tinkered myself.

Elric would definitely know more about these points than I would though :P
Title: Re: The Lion War - FAQs
Post by: Elric on December 14, 2019, 08:45:29 pm
ARH controls all of ashley riots skills and ALSO sets the requirements for the sword skills from vanilla. They are unchecked in fftp because thats how ARH has always worked, it may be a mini version of ARH, but that is still the same.  So yes, changed will conflict, make your changes in ARH instead.

Meliadoul didnt change
Title: Re: The Lion War - FAQs
Post by: ibostyle11 on December 15, 2019, 12:04:49 am
Quote from: Nyzer on December 14, 2019, 02:09:25 pm
I'm pretty sure the new Dark Knight skills just point at the regular Weapon Damage formula, but don't quote me on that. AFAIK there shouldn't be a problem with changing their formula, as their weapon requirements ought to be dependent on their ability slots rather than their formula.


Yeah, it looks like it is just using the 00 formula. I was a little bit skeptical because that was the case for Crushing Blow, which used the 2D formula in WOTL; so it seemed odd that it had 00 on TLW.

Quote from: Elric on December 14, 2019, 08:45:29 pm
ARH controls all of ashley riots skills and ALSO sets the requirements for the sword skills from vanilla. They are unchecked in fftp because thats how ARH has always worked, it may be a mini version of ARH, but that is still the same.  So yes, changed will conflict, make your changes in ARH instead.


Ah gotcha. I wasn't sure since ARH seemed to affect all the sword skills except for the ruin skills and new dark knight skills, that still has  requires sword checked off in FTP. Made me question if ARH was independent of everything else, or if/how there was overlap.

I get the vibe that ARH is like an expansion of the requires materia blade to requires weapon ASM that now gives options for multiple weapons. If so, can I add to it to include more weapons besides the axe, mace, lance, dagger, & crossbow? Or has it already reached the limit of how many weapons you can make required?
Title: Re: The Lion War - FAQs
Post by: deadlyace85 on December 20, 2019, 03:44:04 am
Should I patch it to an US or EU iso file?
Title: Re: The Lion War - FAQs
Post by: Elric on December 20, 2019, 11:26:24 am
EU FFT? Where?
Title: Re: The Lion War - FAQs
Post by: RetroTypes on January 11, 2020, 08:20:54 pm
So I'm gonna go out on a limb here and assume more complicated ASM's like RAD 3 wouldn't work in conjunction to the TLW patch? A quick try produced broken results for me, from abilities not being moved around like I'm trying, to sprites changing to vastly different ones mid scene/battle. But maybe (likely lol) I'm missing something?
Title: Re: The Lion War - FAQs
Post by: Elric on January 11, 2020, 08:49:55 pm
Quote from: RetroTypes on January 11, 2020, 08:20:54 pm
So I'm gonna go out on a limb here and assume more complicated ASM's like RAD 3 wouldn't work in conjunction to the TLW patch? A quick try produced broken results for me, from abilities not being moved around like I'm trying, to sprites changing to vastly different ones mid scene/battle. But maybe (likely lol) I'm missing something?


I mean... did you check that your RAD3 XML wasn't conflicting with other ASMs in the packed in resources?

First and foremost, you cannot simply just add stuff to TLW. If you want to do that, you're gonna need to download the resources pack and make a new image yourself with my instructions, and include any new ASMs you want to add.

I'm going to assume you did not do this, hence the issues you are having... RAD3 is a very broken ASM, and you are almost certainly correct in that it's not going to work with TLW. Considering how large the DK hack is, and how much space RAD3 takes up.

I would not recommend RAD3 tbh, but to each their own. Remnants of that mod were in the initial build of Jot5, and caused many issues even without conflicts.

It's also entirely possible that you simply did not setup RAD3 correctly, so it could be a combo of both. However without you checking the conflict checker in orgASM with your RAD3 xml, against the TLW ASMs, there is no way of knowing, and i don't have time to test that myself, which is why we released the resources.
Title: Re: The Lion War - FAQs
Post by: RetroTypes on January 11, 2020, 09:11:07 pm
Quote from: Elric on January 11, 2020, 08:49:55 pm
I mean... did you check that your RAD3 XML wasn't conflicting with other ASMs in the packed in resources?

First and foremost, you cannot simply just add stuff to TLW. If you want to do that, you're gonna need to download the resources pack and make a new image yourself with my instructions, and include any new ASMs you want to add.

I'm going to assume you did not do this, hence the issues you are having... RAD3 is a very broken ASM, and you are almost certainly correct in that it's not going to work with TLW. Considering how large the DK hack is, and how much space RAD3 takes up.

I would not recommend RAD3 tbh, but to each their own. Remnants of that mod were in the initial build of Jot5, and caused many issues even without conflicts.

It's also entirely possible that you simply did not setup RAD3 correctly, so it could be a combo of both. However without you checking the conflict checker in orgASM with your RAD3 xml, against the TLW ASMs, there is no way of knowing, and i don't have time to test that myself, which is why we released the resources.


I assumed since the ASM's were applied last that adding more could be done by just patching the ISO again, but I guess it makes sense that it doesn't work like that. I'll give it a go using the resources provided but I'm going to assume it still wont work lol. I'm not advanced enough yet to be able to look at multiple ASM's or the conflict checker and know what's wrong, so no idea there.

Maybe not the place to ask this, but since we're already here and talking about it, what alternatives do you recommend for achieving something similar to the RAD3 functionality? It works absolutely perfectly for the white mage upgrade I wanna make, but with TLW being out now I cant *not* start a project with it as a base lol (which, thank you again for all the hard work you put into it, btw).
Title: Re: The Lion War - FAQs
Post by: Light on January 24, 2020, 09:01:14 am
Any news on including Luso?
Title: Re: The Lion War - FAQs
Post by: Jordan95 on February 25, 2020, 11:58:33 pm
Sorry if this already been answered elsewhere but I can't seem to find what I'm looking for in this post or any others.

Does this include fixing some of the bugs that exist in PSX version? Like item duplication glitch, JP scroll glitch, and whatever other ones there may be. I know there are ASMs to fix these issues, so if they're not included in this, I assume I can just apply my own patch as described in the The Lion War Base Patch Resources (https://ffhacktics.com/smf/index.php?topic=12321.0) topic and just include those ASMs as well?
Title: Re: The Lion War - FAQs
Post by: Elric on February 26, 2020, 01:35:50 am
Quote from: Jordan9232 on February 25, 2020, 11:58:33 pmSorry if this already been answered elsewhere but I can't seem to find what I'm looking for in this post or any others.

Does this include fixing some of the bugs that exist in PSX version? Like item duplication glitch, JP scroll glitch, and whatever other ones there may be. I know there are ASMs to fix these issues, so if they're not included in this, I assume I can just apply my own patch as described in the The Lion War Base Patch Resources (https://ffhacktics.com/smf/index.php?topic=12321.0) topic and just include those ASMs as well?

If it's not in that list, then no, it's not used. No we didn't make fixes to vanilla aside from the DEB victory condition.
Title: Re: The Lion War - FAQs
Post by: Jordan95 on March 05, 2020, 06:36:43 am
I was working with events in ATTACK.OUT, TEST.EVT, Battle Conditions, etc.. and I noticed the event for Bethla Sluice (Hint) was just completely removed. Was there a reason for this or just something that was missed? I've been trying to add it back in myself but I don't have the knowledge. Seems to be something I'm missing in ATTACK.OUT or the conditions
Title: Re: The Lion War - FAQs
Post by: Siniyatris on March 05, 2020, 05:58:54 pm
First of all ty so much for this patch and i m a newbie for this patching things . i checked all pages and even i google it but i cant find the item list so i m very curious about is there a fomalhaut and how can i take a look items ?
Title: Re: The Lion War - FAQs
Post by: Elric on March 05, 2020, 09:37:24 pm
Quote from: Jordan95 on March 05, 2020, 06:36:43 amI was working with events in ATTACK.OUT, TEST.EVT, Battle Conditions, etc.. and I noticed the event for Bethla Sluice (Hint) was just completely removed. Was there a reason for this or just something that was missed? I've been trying to add it back in myself but I don't have the knowledge. Seems to be something I'm missing in ATTACK.OUT or the conditions

I could be mistaken, but if i recall correctly, the hint was just rolled into the text in the opening event before the bsttle starts. This was to save on event space before we figured out how to remove the setup events
Title: Re: The Lion War - FAQs
Post by: Nyzer on March 05, 2020, 11:11:36 pm
Quote from: Siniyatris on March 05, 2020, 05:58:54 pmFirst of all ty so much for this patch and i m a newbie for this patching things . i checked all pages and even i google it but i cant find the item list so i m very curious about is there a fomalhaut and how can i take a look items ?

None of the WotL only items were added. There's no existing item space, nor has anyone whipped up a functionality for an extra, separate equipment table (which is how it works in WotL, IIRC). On a related note, the Agrias' Birthday event was slightly rewritten because it now rewards a perfume instead of a lip rouge. If you want to see Mustadio awkwardly blurt out what he thinks about how Agrias smells, go check that out when you get that far.
Title: Re: The Lion War - FAQs
Post by: Jordan95 on March 09, 2020, 12:47:29 pm
Quote from: Elric on March 05, 2020, 09:37:24 pmI could be mistaken, but if i recall correctly, the hint was just rolled into the text in the opening event before the bsttle starts. This was to save on event space before we figured out how to remove the setup events

Negative. It's not in there. I even searched all files for "open the floodgate" which should have found the file with that text wherever it is but I got zero results. There should have been a line for "How do I open the floodgate?".

So just seems to be straight up missing. Could definitely roll the text into that event like you said though and just add:
//Message x02
{font:08}{Ramza}{font:00}{br}
How do I open the floodgate?{br}
{br}
Probably by pulling{br}
the levers on both sides!{br}
{br}
I think I see them...but first{br}
I have to get there...{end}

I don't know enough about the actual Event Instructions you'd have to add in the file though.
Title: Re: The Lion War - FAQs
Post by: Nyzer on March 09, 2020, 02:06:21 pm
It probably got lost along the way.

One could just add it in to Ramza's existing dialog... but if you wanted to simulate him saying it after the start of the battle without setting up a new event, you could ChangeStats his CT to +64 (so he gets the first turn), let the conditions roll across the screen, let everyone start walking, then focus the camera on him, stop his animation, have him say his line, resume his animation, and end the event.
Title: Re: The Lion War - FAQs
Post by: Gordon_Ramza on April 04, 2020, 02:29:16 pm
Would it be possible to add both Ashley and Luso in 1 patch (making a new event to recruit one of them and removing either Boko or Malak to make room in the party)?
Title: Re: The Lion War - FAQs
Post by: Elric on April 04, 2020, 07:11:23 pm
Quote from: Gordon_Ramza on April 04, 2020, 02:29:16 pmWould it be possible to add both Ashley and Luso in 1 patch (making a new event to recruit one of them and removing either Boko or Malak to make room in the party)?

Yes, you could do that. I wont, but yes, its doable.
Title: Re: The Lion War - FAQs
Post by: yamigata on May 20, 2020, 02:13:59 pm
Will updating to a new version conflict with the save files I use in the previous version?
Title: Re: The Lion War - FAQs
Post by: blood_falcon on July 31, 2020, 12:16:50 am
@Elric Is the new version of Lion War can be played using PSX2PSP ? I am currently using my PSP to play as my PSX console already gone
Title: Re: The Lion War - FAQs
Post by: blood_falcon on July 31, 2020, 01:13:57 am
@Elric and anyone. Is there any alternative to CDprog? I downloaded CDprog and my Windows 7 said it is a virus. I am okay with paid software too
Title: Re: The Lion War - FAQs
Post by: Jumza on July 31, 2020, 09:44:18 am
Quote from: blood_falcon on July 31, 2020, 01:13:57 am@Elric and anyone. Is there any alternative to CDprog? I downloaded CDprog and my Windows 7 said it is a virus. I am okay with paid software too

You can ignore this warning safely, but if it makes you more comfortable then you can use CDMage which can be downloaded on the site here: http://ffhacktics.com/w/images/6/68/CDmage.7z
Title: Re: The Lion War - FAQs
Post by: blood_falcon on July 31, 2020, 11:51:56 am
@Jumza I wish it was that simple. When I download CDprog, Windows deleted it automatically for me. I will try CDMage though

Oh yeah, another question. Have you tried to convert to eboot.pbp for psp usage?