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Poll
Question: So who do you think Ramza would be shipped with, realistically, if a "Romance Patch" were to be made?
Option 1: Ms. Agrias Oaks
Option 2: Ms. Meliadoul Tingel
Option 3: Lavian/Alicia
Option 4: Rafa Galthana (Isn't she like 13 though when the game starts?)
Option 5: Miluda Folles
Option 6: Alma Beoulve.........................................................................................
Option 7: Teta Hyral
Option 8: ???St. Ajora??? (Altima is pretty hawt for a sprite...I guess...)
Option 9: Celia/Lede
Option 10: Reis Dular
Option 11: Ovelia Atkascha
Option 12: Balmafula Lenando
Option 13: Mustadio
Option 14: Orlandu (idk, maybe he likes older guys....)
Option 15: Other/New character
Option 16: Agrias + Meliadoul ???? ;)
Title: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: theultrawolf on November 14, 2015, 06:48:29 am
So as I was changing my signature...I thought to myself.
"Would it be cool to make a patch where romance is interspersed with the story?"
"Particularly with Ramza, so we know he's not a eunuch?"
So. This thread is for ideas on who Ramza should be shipped with (My opinion is in my sig, even though Mustadio and her are supposedly a thing in WoTL but I could care less about WoTL, also I think Meliadoul could be a nice choice)
I would like to work on a patch like this when I'm not trying to push HyperDrive to its first demo/completion but I'll need help with ideas on how to make this romancy thing happen.

Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: Elric on November 14, 2015, 06:23:22 pm
Big pink text hurts to look at. (Which is why literally no one on the forum changes text type or color)

Also, Meliadoul is the only one who makes sense.
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: Xifanie on November 14, 2015, 06:56:21 pm
I vote Ovelia + Agrias.
Angel would prefer Agrias + Meliadoul (blonde + brunette *wink wink*)

Also: I fixed your signature images
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: Angel on November 14, 2015, 06:59:11 pm
That and I can't help but see Ramza as a woman in that image. Which would make it better, imo (admittedly biased, of course).
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: Kib on November 14, 2015, 07:08:30 pm
Beside a few fanboy fantasies, Agrias would have to take my top spot,who wouldn't fall for the best holy woman in the land?
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: Xifanie on November 14, 2015, 07:16:31 pm
Sounds like someone has a nun fetish.
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: Kib on November 14, 2015, 07:18:40 pm
Lol, so a nun might be on my "List". Who doesn't want to know whats under the habit?
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: Angel on November 14, 2015, 07:23:22 pm
(http://www.yashuntafun.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/FeliciaNunRef.jpg) (http://www.yashuntafun.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/FeliciaRef.jpg)
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: Kib on November 14, 2015, 07:26:32 pm
I wonder if you had this on hand just for this situation :shock:

I think Toshiko's idea girl is puuuurrrrfect
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: Elric on November 14, 2015, 08:12:31 pm
Who said Agrias? We all know Mustadio would shoot Ramza between the eyes if he stole his chica.
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: Kib on November 14, 2015, 08:15:45 pm
I said it, everyone knows Ramza would take Musty in a fight, he has Worker 8 on command. Won't be any phoenix downs this time.
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: Angel on November 14, 2015, 08:17:51 pm
Mustadio is a Machinist. HE'S the one with Worker 8 on command. Didn't you play Journey of the Five? :colbert:
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: Elric on November 14, 2015, 08:21:24 pm
Quote from: Toshiko on November 14, 2015, 08:17:51 pm
Mustadio is a Machinist. HE'S the one with Worker 8 on command. Didn't you play Journey of the Five? :colbert:


Angel beat me to it! XD
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: Kib on November 14, 2015, 08:23:08 pm
Cough* well I was on a hiatus from FFT when it comes out.
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: Elric on November 14, 2015, 08:31:02 pm
You asked me for event advice and you haven't even seen my events?

Draw your sword Kib!
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: Kib on November 14, 2015, 08:36:35 pm
En Garde, sir Elric, * Draws my Kora.   I sought  your help, because your prowess in eventing is known far and wide. I eagerly await your work on JOT5, but forgive the student for seeking a master. 

Theatrics aside, I have seen some of your events, just never in actual gameplay
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: theultrawolf on November 15, 2015, 02:39:47 am
Quote from: Elric on November 14, 2015, 06:23:22 pm
Big pink text hurts to look at. (Which is why literally no one on the forum changes text type or color)

Also, Meliadoul is the only one who makes sense.


Sorry about the pink text >-< I thought it would fit the romantic theme....
And I see what you mean about Meliadoul. After all, her unit quote is "When you feel someone is more important than yourself, it may be love," and whatever else she says in WoTL.

Quote from: Xifanie on November 14, 2015, 06:56:21 pm
I vote Ovelia + Agrias.
Angel would prefer Agrias + Meliadoul (blonde + brunette *wink wink*)
Also: I fixed your signature images


I like both of those combinations, but I thought secretly that Ovelia + Agrias is a thing since she kind of acts indifferent to Mustadio and like she's in love with Ovelia.

Quote from: Kib on November 14, 2015, 07:08:30 pm
Beside a few fanboy fantasies, Agrias would have to take my top spot,who wouldn't fall for the best holy woman in the land?


YEEEEEEAH YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYINNNN

That being said, I'm surprised no one has been that guy/girl who thinks Ramza+Alma would make a good couple...

Quote from: Toshiko on November 14, 2015, 07:23:22 pm
(http://www.yashuntafun.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/FeliciaNunRef.jpg) (http://www.yashuntafun.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/FeliciaRef.jpg)

I actually think Felicia would work somehow, but I don't think any sprites for her exist Dx

Quote from: Toshiko on November 14, 2015, 08:17:51 pm
Mustadio is a Machinist. HE'S the one with Worker 8 on command. Didn't you play Journey of the Five? :colbert:

That's true, but I'm thinking he would hire Leesha and Olivander to "do a favor" on Mustadio in his sleep...
Then Agrias would DEFINITELY come running to Ramza, for that emotional support and everything.
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: Kib on November 15, 2015, 05:35:04 am
Well Ramza/Alma would make a interesting mix, but Ramza is too protective over her, he would never do anything to her. Even if he broke past the bro/sis barrier. I think Ramza/Mustuido/Agrias would be the best compromise, you know the churchie ones have the biggest kinks.
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: theultrawolf on November 15, 2015, 06:19:57 am
Well...Matsuno seems to have a small bit of a bro/sis fetish anyways, I mean Catiua and Denam in TO were "Brother/Sister", (not really actually) yet that was strange, full of tension, and it was screaming "She's in love with him". So I mean....if you wanted to go down THAT road...Yeah, I think they're a bit close. But that's probably due to...ahem... sibling love or something like that.

Ramza/Mustadio/Agrias?! So they're polygamists now? xD


(Edit: It seems a lot of people so far like the Agrias + Ramza thing. Maybe in that patch Musty could just...kick the bucket or something xD)
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: Kib on November 15, 2015, 06:43:50 am
Nah, just give him an android, he could "TINKER" with
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: theultrawolf on November 15, 2015, 07:23:20 am
Quote from: Kib on November 15, 2015, 06:43:50 am
Nah, just give him an android, he could "TINKER" with


Now he's into trans-humanism?!
Well you know, it IS a personal robot...
All the same... I am serious about this (to a certain degree) so I want the ship to feel at least "real", within the context of the whole bloody-angel Lion War thingy.
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: Kib on November 15, 2015, 10:46:06 am
This could be a interesting patch then, lots of ways to work around established relationships, My patch will feature a woman forced into the slave trade and "rescued" by a man whom she joins the party with.
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: Jumza on November 15, 2015, 12:42:44 pm
Little late, but I have to agree with Meliadoul / Ramza. Who can you not help but to love other than the man who's life you threatened on multiple occasions? Maybe she was in love with him before she thought he killed her brother and then had to set her feelings aside to seek revenge? So much Drama here people. So much Drama!
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: Xifanie on November 15, 2015, 02:05:22 pm
You people are dense and misinterpreting others' votes. Votes for Agrias AND Meliadoul means people want Agrias AND Meliadoul to develop a relationship.
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: dw6561 on November 15, 2015, 03:19:27 pm
To me, Agrias and Ramza makes the most sense because they were together for a long time and because she gets to know him on a good note. Although, any one of those would make a good pairing if they were well written enough in my opinion.
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: theultrawolf on November 15, 2015, 09:15:35 pm
Quote from: Kib on November 15, 2015, 10:46:06 am
This could be a interesting patch then, lots of ways to work around established relationships, My patch will feature a woman forced into the slave trade and "rescued" by a man whom she joins the party with.

Is that the Monster Hunting one?

Quote from: Jumza on November 15, 2015, 12:42:44 pm
Little late, but I have to agree with Meliadoul / Ramza. Who can you not help but to love other than the man who's life you threatened on multiple occasions? Maybe she was in love with him before she thought he killed her brother and then had to set her feelings aside to seek revenge? So much Drama here people. So much Drama!


Yeah, but I don't think she would have known Ramza before that, and if she had, she likely would have known him like Izlude did, as a heretic. It's entirely possible that going through the whole thing with realizing he was right and then him being there for her emotionally after learning of her father's betrayal caused her to potentially fall in love with him (based on the unit quote) but then again, I don't know. If I was going to include a romance subplot it would definitely revolve around her desperation and then him comforting her.

Quote from: Xifanie on November 15, 2015, 02:05:22 pm
You people are dense and misinterpreting others' votes. Votes for Agrias AND Meliadoul means people want Agrias AND Meliadoul to develop a relationship.

Nah, I knew that's what you were saying, I just would ship Agrias + Ovelia quicker than her and Meliadoul :p
Should I put those two as votes though?

Quote from: dw6561 on November 15, 2015, 03:19:27 pm
To me, Agrias and Ramza makes the most sense because they were together for a long time and because she gets to know him on a good note. Although, any one of those would make a good pairing if they were well written enough in my opinion.

Yeah, I admit it does make sense plus she pretty much said she was beginning to trust him as a person but also WoTL pulled a ret-con with the whole Musty thing, so I might have to write around that if enough people pick that...




Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: Angel on November 16, 2015, 09:24:53 am
Xifanie was totally saying that in a joking manner. But having the two as an option would be very much welcome... :oops:
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: theultrawolf on November 16, 2015, 07:48:08 pm
Looks like Meliadoul is in the lead so far! I'll leave this up for a few more days though, just in case.
Also: option added
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: Xifanie on November 16, 2015, 11:56:42 pm
I took the liberty to allow people to change their vote.
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: theultrawolf on November 17, 2015, 05:06:19 am
Oh, thank you! I forgot to change that. Well, it's really looking close at this point.
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: skiploom188 on November 17, 2015, 11:44:37 am
I think it would be fun if in the first half of the game it would be Agrias x Ramza. Then when Meliadoul comes in it'll be now more on Meliadoul x Ramza. The best thing that's gonna happen here is Agrias VS Meliadoul XD

How about just make it a harem for Ramza? Then in the end Ramza eventually ends up with one girl.
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: Kib on November 17, 2015, 01:36:22 pm
OMG, it's Rosario Vampire!

And Ultra yea the monster patch will have a good view into relationships of your party, there will be a husband,wife and boyfriend/girlfriend, and then a odd Balathier/Fran relationship. I will also explore a Father/Son and I am considering a adoption my accident of a child who will be part of your party (She will be a badass)
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: theultrawolf on November 17, 2015, 09:09:24 pm
So now you're saying that Meliadoul and Agrias should cat-fight over Ramza?!
Reminds me of this:


Anyway, so far it looks like Meliadoul is in the lead by a long shot so we might be going with that.
And I'm not so sure about a harem xD Maybe if everyone was just one big...uh...party things would be interesting xD

Quote from: Kib on November 17, 2015, 01:36:22 pm
OMG, it's Rosario Vampire!

And Ultra yea the monster patch will have a good view into relationships of your party, there will be a husband,wife and boyfriend/girlfriend, and then a odd Balathier/Fran relationship. I will also explore a Father/Son and I am considering a adoption my accident of a child who will be part of your party (She will be a badass)

Rosario Vampire? Where? o.o

And well I'd sure like to see that! With this I'm still trying to figure out how to make space for the new Events but I think I'll be able to manage. It's gotta at least be more than one scene, like it was when Musty gives Agrias the lip balm in WoTL.
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: theultrawolf on November 20, 2015, 01:26:27 am
I'll leave this up for 2-3 more days before I take it down! Thanks to everybody who's voted so far!
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: theultrawolf on November 25, 2015, 02:10:22 am
Welp, I guess it's gonna be Meliadoul! Guess I better get to event editing (and figure out how to add new events to the worldmap)
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: Lockeadon on November 25, 2015, 05:13:28 am
i don't understand the term shipping. are you sending them on a romantic cruise? if so, ramza and not-rad
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: Xifanie on November 25, 2015, 05:22:38 am
It's a stupid term, shortened term, that means relationshipping; or pairing two characters together into a relationship. Why anyone uses that term is beyond me.
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: theultrawolf on November 25, 2015, 05:48:44 am
What she said. I suppose I could have said/used another word, but I used it to fit the tone...I guess?
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: Lockeadon on November 25, 2015, 06:27:30 am
ramza and anyone but rad, then
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: Angel on November 25, 2015, 06:30:39 am
Seriously, shipping is what you do to packages when you can't deliver them personally. But I also rage every time tumblr introduces a new shortened word that didn't need to be shortened, like 'rents' and 'stumes'. If you have ever called your parents 'rents', please punch yourself in the face for me. </irrationalanger>

Sorry for the derail. 8D
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: theultrawolf on November 25, 2015, 06:43:41 am
No, I haven't ._. The only reason I used the word is because I knew what it meant and I thought maybe other people would too...I don't even know. I don't use tumblr either so I don't know any of these things Dx
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: Angel on November 25, 2015, 06:29:50 pm
No worries~ *patpat*
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: theultrawolf on November 25, 2015, 10:47:55 pm
I just hope that this whole romance sideplot thing doesn't look TOO shoehorned
Even though it will be.
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: Kaijyuu on November 25, 2015, 10:58:16 pm
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Shipping
QuoteThe term "Shipping" -- which ostensibly derives from "Relationship" (though it might as well be "Worship"; in some fandoms, it's Serious Business) -- was originally coined by fans of The X-Files, who were divided between "relationshippers" pushing for romance and "noromos" who would rather have No Hugging and No Kissing.


As much as TvTropes can be trusted, anyway.
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: theultrawolf on November 26, 2015, 03:14:20 am
I seem to recall something along the same lines though so I don't think that's far from the truth.
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: theultrawolf on February 10, 2016, 09:18:25 am
I'm still doing this, by the way. I had a small hiccup since my old computer died and now I'm using a different one, but I have all up-to-date backups on this machine so I'll be back to the sprites and the mods as soon as I install some RAM in my computer!
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: LastingDawn on February 10, 2016, 11:41:13 am
Hmm, it is admittedly an interesting idea. Matsuno games seem to steer clear of this for the most part. FFXII was pretty surprising that there were three all but established couples (Fran/Balthier, Vaan/Penelo, Basch/Ashe by end game) that made up the party and as mentioned Tactics Ogre has some shades of it with the crazy relationship that is Catiua and Denam.

Through WotL it seems to be clear that Ramza doesn't have any romantic attraction to Agrias due to trying to help Mustadio establish a relationship with her (where he fails, but still). It just seems throughout the game he doesn't have time to think about these matters (which is sort of refreshing for a game about a teenager realizing how twisted the world truly is and rises above the corruption).

If I had to make some assumption his chosen mate would be either Meliadoul or Rafa. The entire second half of Chapter 3 nearly revolves around Rafa and Malak. The only point for Meliadoul is her Unit Quote line. Other than that Ramza and her don't really show much chemistry where Rafa and Ramza sort of open up to one another (also for some reason if I recall in the event at Yardow the game skips forward 3 months so take that as you will, maybe just to show that the journey to Riovanes may have taken longer than anticipated?)

I'm always bothered that a character stops developing after they join the party (Well, nearly. Meliadoul and Agrias have one optional speech in battle) Thankfully WotL added some extra stuff for Beowulf (you know, like finishing his story!), Agrias, and Mustadio always had a fleshed out personality due to him being the catalyst for all optional events. They could have done a little better in that respect.

Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: Diedrik on June 10, 2017, 06:45:10 pm
If you are still working on this I would like to throw a hypothetical wrench into the basis of the poll.

The only way a romantic mod would make sense would be to allow the player, Ramza, to pursue a variety of relationships. I am not sure how difficult it would be to check dialogue choices in past events, I know the vanilla game does it at least once, such as when you are introduced to Algus/Argath.

Ramza should be capable of romancing all of the people in the poll, at the same time. It would really help cement his status as a heretic at a time when the church is undergoing their attempt at a monogamist reformation.

Also I have always wanted to be able to talk Miluda down instead of having to kill her.

I do not know how hard this is, probably very, but I think it would be awesome if events could be triggered by using a specific ability on specific characters, such as the Orator's abilities. It would be a good way to allow pursuing romance options at your own pace, and a natural way to try to convince Miluda to stand down.

Sorry to necro, but it was on the first page and I strongly disagree with most of the posts so far, so I wanted to add my two gil.
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: nitwit on June 11, 2017, 10:41:05 pm
No Boco?
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: Diedrik on June 12, 2017, 06:00:08 pm
A boco is fine too. It is really too bad that there are no other unique non-human characters with the exception of Byblos. Byblos should probably get a romance path as well.
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: theultrawolf on December 31, 2017, 09:47:17 pm
I...have been away for far too long O.O
Coming back to this after so long, I'm not so sure this needs to exist anymore, but it could still happen I suppose.
I do like the concept of being able to "bond," with one or more characters, though...
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: Angel on January 02, 2018, 09:00:05 pm
Needing to exist and being cool to have it exist are two different things, and this falls into the latter. Doesn't need to exist, but it would be welcome!
Title: Re: Romantic patch anyone?
Post by: Roninknight on November 15, 2018, 04:35:57 am
I've thought about this quite a bit. I think that if I were in a position to write some or all of a sequel's script then I'd put Ramza with Rafa (now older) for a list of reasons and have Agrias fall into the arms of comforting, understanding, protective, courageous-yet-quiet Mustadio after losing her beloved Ovelia. She is a bold Type-A, he is quiet Type-B, and yet they still have a lot in common- I've seen many great matches like this in real life. I'd put Alma with Olan - it would explain a lot of stuff and also act as great plot fodder in a sequel. I'd place Meliadoul with Alma after Olan dies at the stake for the sheer drama of it.

There's a lot of potential, here. I enjoy the speculation.