Knox' Sprites etc.

[Twinees]

I'm pretty sure the person who the portrait was based on is a male, but it slightly matches. Be more adventurous with the sprite creating though.

[mav]

Eh, I'm open to doing anything with the portrait for the Delita-mod. I definitely agree with Cheetah about the armor though--I'll post some ideas later tomorrow.

As for the new sprite, my first question is where did you find that amazing portrait? I'm leaning towards the idea that this is a guy, but I dunno.

[Twinees]

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Cheetah got it from the japanese ffh site. I think it's supposed to be Doned from ffta?

[Knox]

My bad, I didn't realize it was a male. O_o

It looks a little feminime to me, but oh well lol. Well that kind of blows the whole idea haha.

[jimmyjw88]

I love that portrait, mav. Very nice.

[Lijj]

Knox: That port could be either M or F. It's so in-between.
mav: I like the hair coloring on that port. The light works better with that color better than in the original.
Matches the sprites hair very well.

[Knox]

:[ @ it being called a Delita clone lol

I'm trying to customize it little by little! I'm gonna redo the hair its just taking time to get it to the way i want it y'know?

[Kagebunji]

Oh you, can't even tell a difference between male and female -_- . It is not Doned from FFTA, it is Frimelda, the paladin from FFTA2, and she is really cute. You picked fatal base though.

Some artworks? Sure
http://img1.ak.crunchyroll.com/i/spire3 ... 4_full.jpg

[jimmyjw88]

Artwork, obviously she is female but from THAT portrait, I thought it was male as well honestly.

[mav]

Well now that we have the artwork, I think it'll be easier to get the sprite matching the portrait. And hurray, it was a female--which means using the female Monk's hair is perfectly acceptable.

Also, I've updated the other portrait a bit. I've included Cheetah's suggestions removing that shoulder piece and filling in the gap on the chest armor. I also went ahead and made the armor look a little rusty and dirty, out of boredom.

[DeadManWalking]

I think that red looks a little saturated, to be honest.

[Cheetah]

I like the changes Mav. DMW might right about the red color, but that is easy enough to experiment with.

[mav]

Fair enough--I'll just pull down the saturation values a bit. Now it's got that pinkish brown look to it, so I dunno how much of an improvement this is.

[Zozma]

I'm pretty sure the person who the portrait was based on is a male, but it slightly matches. Be more adventurous with the sprite creating though.

who cares if it was male, i say you should go for it as a female character. because its a cute portrait if you consider it a female lol.

if you're not wanting it to resemble the character it was drawn to be, maybe give "her" black hair or something thats less common in FFT
and perhaps take off that coller and give her some other outfit
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im loving the modded delita portrait, as a custom character, looks great.

[Knox]

Looks really good mav, thanks.

Can you upload the palette for me or will it be in the image for me already so i can just load it into the character sheet?

And im thinking maybe i should redo the eyebrows so its that much more custom from being delita.

What did you guys think of the recolor i did?

I'm thinking of calling him Banon the Blood Knight ( or Lode Knight )

Updated the sprite a little, fixed the face, added the red collar, lightened the black outfit a bit.

[mav]

Alright, since I modified the portrait a bit, you're gonna need to do this the "hard" way. All you gotta do is rotate the portrait 270°, open it in GraphicsGale, save the palette, then copy the portrait on the BMP for the sprite sheet.

And yes, you should redo the eyebrows on the portrait--if you can find new ones that look good. The sprite looks good too, just consider giving him long hair or something to make him look different from other Delita and Shrine Knights. I also like the name--Banon works, though I prefer Lode Knight to Blood Knight.

[Knox]

Thanks for your input i appreaciate every little bit of it.

I'll work on the eyebrows tonight.

And I'm not sure where im gonna go with the hair I'm having a little trouble with it but ill figure something out im sure.

update 1:
Fiddled with the eyebrows, didn't take long to come up with moot, i like them like that- if only i could somehow change them but keep them the same without it still resembling delita somewhat.

Also tried to customize the hair, every longhair variation i tried wasn't working, i tried redoing it from scratch but i always run into the issues with the colors there and it ends up looking pillowed or just jumbled and gross.

The only decent hair revision ive done is on that other sprite that was going to be him but it doesnt 'look' long, though its more on the grounds of looking better.
So ill gonna try it out realy quick and see if i can't finish it.

update 2:
Tried it, its not working for this sprite.
The biggest issue im hacing is that its supposed to be slicked back hair so it wont look fat in the back or be too big, it'd be kind of sticking to the back of his head and working in the lines is proving really difficult thats why i been using delita's head because its the only one closest to it.

update 3:
What's to say Banon can't be a distant cousin to Delita, or maybe a half brother? one he never knows about, and Banon doesnt know it either because they never cross paths. Either way, Banon is quite a bit older than Delita even without wrinkles added in, due to the length of hair and all.

Or we could as far as hes not related in the least and just has similar facial attributes like many people sometimes do.

I'm just spitballing here because I haven't the skill to rework the hair or the eyebrows on the portrait atm.
Feel free to spitball your own ideas.

Heres the updated sheet:



For right now, we'll call this v1.0 and if anyone wants a SPR version let me know ill upload it here.

Gonna fiddle with the chick one i was working on a little bit.

update 4:
And heres what i got, the palette is finally loaded onto it and whatnot, Now ill need your guys help to see where we should go from here. Someone said this was a fatal base, I take that as meaning it was a bad choice and if thats the case im open to ideas, I chose this one because the hair was closest to the potraits design and could probably be easily manipulated to match the portrait.

I'm thinking whatever we do we should make her outfit as different as possible to most sprites, there are few dark brunettes, but if you guys think we should go darker like for instance as was said to go black, then im all for it. We can either go with the artworks outfitting or make our own from bits and pieces of others.
I'm a bit fond of the idea of having a special character thats a thief, a little more powerful than a base thief, so a little more hp maybe a better move? But firsts things first i guess lol.

[Kagebunji]

Yes, I said it is fatal base cause it is. Head fits indeed, but it is far easier to just copy head into body you want instead of copying the body to fit with head. I s'pose you will need some "thick" paints, in FFT there are mostly "Fluffy" though, and besides only two females have pants IIRC. Arms..I think Agtias might work, making it look like in artwork would be pointless, too much details etc. Chest, hmm, be creative. And that white thinge on her neck on sprite shouldn't even be visible.

As to that Old Delita. Portrait: Change the body dammit, it is lookin like Delita in every way. Face could be redone too, borrow some from other one. Sprite is still not custom enough, simple headswap with new colors to me.

[Knox]

Changing the face anymore would ruin it, So im not doing that because as far as im concerned it looks fine and doesnt resemble Delita all that much, if i really had to change anything it'd have to be the hair because those eyebrows are common among quite a few of the portraits in FFT, and they fit the idea of the character i was making perfectly, and the hair matches as well. Maybe ill fiddle with the eyes some more but the angle hes at makes it a bit difficult to use other ideas of the eyes, overall I am really attached to it in some ways so we'll see.

As for the Sprite hair I am going to change it but every direction i seem to take it ends up looking crappy so its going to take a while but for now its fine.

And how does the portrait look like Delita in 'every way' It's got a wider chin, forehead, different color hair, and outfitting, the hair is even longer.
I dunno, im at a loss of what to change without ruining it, and i have tried and all i end up doing is making it look worse or contorted.

I'm open to ideas, so maybe throwing some ideas would be a bit more helpful.

[Twinees]

for the female sprite, keep the portrait, but maybe change the body on the portrait or the sprite itself to match, if you want to that is. It looks a bit odd with the grey/brown blob in the middle of the sprites pants. and there is also some other palette changes that may need to be made. good luck.