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Rad: Sprite changes in Mercenaries?

Started by MiKeMiTchi, September 30, 2009, 07:35:12 am

mav

October 08, 2009, 07:42:52 pm #100 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by mav
I think they're the original knight's eyes and eyebrows, but I'm not positive. What do you think is the problem though? The hair makes 'em look off kilter? The shading is wrong?

Archael

October 08, 2009, 07:59:26 pm #101 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Archael


there's something up with the feet!

AngrySurprisedFace

October 08, 2009, 09:36:08 pm #102 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by AngrySurprisedFace
Quote from: "mav"I think they're the original knight's eyes and eyebrows, but I'm not positive. What do you think is the problem though? The hair makes 'em look off kilter? The shading is wrong?

Ya the hair does do that a bit, but they seem a little... thick towards the middle of his face.

Could be just me though.

jimmyjw88

October 08, 2009, 10:16:11 pm #103 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by jimmyjw88
Quote from: "Voldemort"there's something up with the feet!
I see that too. The shape is bit out and with the shading, it looks weird. Though that can be fix easily ^^
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Seushiro

October 08, 2009, 10:20:57 pm #104 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Seushiro
the lighter tone should be the shine to the leather but yeah shape wise. . . should probably erase the 3 pixels making it chunky from the original agrias sprite. . .

mav

October 09, 2009, 06:24:51 pm #105 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by mav
Hmm...I guess I'll hold off on modifying Ch. 4 Rad till we get a better consensus.

So we have his Ch. 1 down, and he'll have a robe and longish hair by Ch. 4...what should happen in between? Are Ch. 2 and Ch. 3 Rad going to look different from one another, or what?

kafei

October 10, 2009, 04:20:29 am #106 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by kafei
Okay, mav, I looked at it more closely, and figured out the problem. I did a more intensive edit this time around, and I think it looks much better. Here it is.

mav

October 10, 2009, 11:40:49 am #107 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by mav
Hmm....as far as the portrait goes something has happened to the right side of skin (darkening the hair, but leaving the skin the same is likely the culprit), but the hair alone looks okay. I'll mess around with this too, but I don't know what will become of it.

MiKeMiTchi

October 10, 2009, 12:44:26 pm #108 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by MiKeMiTchi
Btw kafei, that wasn't Rad's original portrait. I made that for another rad sprite, in case.
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kafei

October 10, 2009, 02:25:27 pm #109 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by kafei
Quote from: "mav"Hmm....as far as the portrait goes something has happened to the right side of skin (darkening the hair, but leaving the skin the same is likely the culprit), but the hair alone looks okay. I'll mess around with this too, but I don't know what will become of it.
All right, sounds good. There are some lighter browns I added (for the sheen) used in the hair that could probably be used on the face, so that would be a start, I suppose.

Quote from: "MiKeMiTchi"Btw kafei, that wasn't Rad's original portrait. I made that for another rad sprite, in case.
I tried digging around for a current spritesheet of Rad, but I couldn't find one. Was his portrait the same as Vanya's warrior? Is there a sprite that matches this portrait better?

jimmyjw88

October 11, 2009, 10:01:19 am #110 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by jimmyjw88
Erm...Isn't this Vanya's Warrior sprite?
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MiKeMiTchi

October 11, 2009, 10:05:32 am #111 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by MiKeMiTchi
Ahh yeah. The submitted sprite for Rad was out of date, too.
However, the Mercenaries demo has it. :)

Or, we could tell Vanya to post it.
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jimmyjw88

October 11, 2009, 10:53:36 am #112 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by jimmyjw88
Wait, so which is Rad's new sprite? The above, posted by kafei? Or the one you made, Mike? I'm liking the one you made though.
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Vanya

October 11, 2009, 11:04:47 am #113 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Vanya
The Rad sprite in the demo, I believe, is my original Warrior sprite.
As you can see it's just a modified Squire with the Knight's head.
In my personal hack I'm giving the Knight's a helmet, so I decided to keep the old knight head in circulation in this manner.
However, I'm thinking of renaming this sprite Rad (Mercenaries) since that has been it's most prominent use and I've since opted for a Warrior with a more 'FF1' hairstyle.
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mav

October 11, 2009, 12:05:55 pm #114 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by mav
Such a beautiful sprite...

So what are the plans for Ch. 2 sprite? I definitely agree that we should keep the scarf in there, in some way, shape, or form, but what can we do to age him? A ponytail, perhaps?

Vanya

October 11, 2009, 01:09:46 pm #115 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Vanya
Thanks, Mav. ^_^

Something like this for the portrait:

But young-ify it some.

The sprite would be like ch1, but with the scarf and more red mage-like boots. Maybe modified arms and armor, too.
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jimmyjw88

October 11, 2009, 01:31:01 pm #116 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by jimmyjw88
So, Vanya's Warrior sprite is Rad Ch1, and the above portrait is Rad Ch2? What about the sprite that Mike made? Is it going to be use?
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mav

October 11, 2009, 01:55:33 pm #117 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by mav
That above portrait just one part of the work in progress for Ch. 4 Rad, I believe.

I was fucking around in MS Paint (which I declare to be the single greatest program ever), just to try and make a slightly new face. I don't mean this to be the next Rad portrait, but I just wanted to show an example of how we may be able to change the angle Rad's facing for his portraits. Kinda like Ramza in Vanilla.

LastingDawn

October 11, 2009, 03:00:57 pm #118 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by LastingDawn
Indeed, it would be great if some of the "Emotions" were portrayed as such, as well.

Though for Ch. 2, I want him to move from Armor to... well Red Mage outfit, thing, so what should the next step be taken at Chapter 2...?

Perhaps an armored top, but robed legs? Does that make sense?
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mav

October 11, 2009, 03:44:09 pm #119 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by mav
To me, a robed top and armored legs would make more sense, but I'm not quite sure...I would love to see him keep the scarf though; it's a great memento for him, but obviously it would clash with a robe on top.