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A Character a Week Keeps the Lucavi Meek! Gretchen Lethro!

Started by Eternal248, July 23, 2009, 10:59:25 pm

Kagebunji

August 22, 2009, 07:23:32 am #40 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Kagebunji
I didn't get such idea Silvas, I think she just experienced happines of life, and losed it, that is why she rejects that idea.
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Eternal

August 22, 2009, 11:57:42 am #41 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Eternal248
Yeah, her "loss of life" is more symbolic than anything else. I was quite afraid that she'd be thought of as an Undead, and I guess my fears are confirmed. For the record, she isn't. XD
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"You, no less human than we? Ha! Now there's a beastly thought. You've been less than we from the moment your baseborn father fell upon your mother in whatever gutter saw you sired! You've been chattel since you came into the world drenched in common blood!"
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mav

August 22, 2009, 12:30:47 pm #42 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by mav
If anything it's the "experienced life" only to lose it line that makes her seem undead. Though reading through her bio and other info, I just got the idea that she's had a pretty hard life and her current outlook is kinda downtrodden. She sounds very interesting though; her dark outlook on life coupled with some bad experiences and a "bad" job will certainly make her a character to keep an eye on.

Neat drawing, by the way.

SplashWoman

August 22, 2009, 12:31:00 pm #43 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by SplashWoman
When I do a rendition, I'll give her a Cursed Ring.

Bam. Undead.

LastingDawn

August 22, 2009, 01:16:07 pm #44 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by LastingDawn
Good point, it is highly misleading, but "life" is in reference to livelihood, and the sorrow part... well maybe we could have been a bit more ambiguous with that.
"Moment's anger can revert to joy,
sadness can be turned to delight.
A nation destroyed cannot be restored,
the dead brought back to life."

Art of War

Beta & Gretchen Forever!!!!

CronoStorm

August 31, 2009, 09:08:10 am #45 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by CronoStorm
This is very nice looking, fellas, very nice. Can't wait to see the finished product.

Is it too obvious that I would like to see Crono from Chrono Trigger included? =D

LastingDawn

August 31, 2009, 01:22:43 pm #46 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by LastingDawn
He will *probably* make it into some sidequest somewhere down the line, heh. With a timeline as confuddled as his is I think it seems almost reasonable to end up partially in Ivalice.
"Moment's anger can revert to joy,
sadness can be turned to delight.
A nation destroyed cannot be restored,
the dead brought back to life."

Art of War

Beta & Gretchen Forever!!!!

LastingDawn

September 01, 2009, 10:00:27 pm #47 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by LastingDawn
Alright, I apologize for their not being a character last week, so to supplement I'll give a riddle so you can guess who it may be.

"Legends in their own right,
from humble beginnings,
they have seen their share of battle.

They each fell in the same place,
Their origins paint their fate, swift.

Their birthgiven names mangled,
Now their roles have changed.

Personae unfamiliar, foreign even.
Though to one of careful observance,
They are seen plain as day."


To whoever answers this correctly will be given a custom battle scenario not yet released! (Savestate of course)

Is it one person? Might it be more? What do the lines allude to...
"Moment's anger can revert to joy,
sadness can be turned to delight.
A nation destroyed cannot be restored,
the dead brought back to life."

Art of War

Beta & Gretchen Forever!!!!

Skip Sandwich

September 01, 2009, 10:31:08 pm #48 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Skip Sandwich
is it
Rafa and Malak?
"Dave?  Are you there?"
"Yeah.  I can't get you through the cell now."
"You have to talk through the bratwurst from now on. I'm sorry. I didn't know it would do that."
http://www.johndiesattheend.com

LastingDawn

September 01, 2009, 10:36:08 pm #49 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by LastingDawn
That it is not, good guess though.
"Moment's anger can revert to joy,
sadness can be turned to delight.
A nation destroyed cannot be restored,
the dead brought back to life."

Art of War

Beta & Gretchen Forever!!!!

MiKeMiTchi

September 01, 2009, 10:40:32 pm #50 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by MiKeMiTchi
from the context "they" and "legends".
They fell on the same "place" (meaning same group?)

QuotePersonae unfamiliar, foreign even.
Though to one of careful observance,
They are seen plain as day."

Just don't get this ^
That means they are not common, but plain!?

-
Gallione Triumvirate?
Mercenaries?

haha. Sorry.. That's all I know.
Jot5 GFX Designer :: Spriter :: Mitchi

LastingDawn

September 01, 2009, 10:45:54 pm #51 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by LastingDawn
Another good guess but no, it is not. Also "they" may not reference a group or even two people it may reference someone's recurring role throughout Ivalice or the FF games altogether.
"Moment's anger can revert to joy,
sadness can be turned to delight.
A nation destroyed cannot be restored,
the dead brought back to life."

Art of War

Beta & Gretchen Forever!!!!

mav

September 01, 2009, 10:50:56 pm #52 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by mav
The Lucavi?
The Judges?
Meh, I'm terrible at this...

LastingDawn

September 01, 2009, 10:51:40 pm #53 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by LastingDawn
That it is not, the Judges eh? Odd that you should mention them...
"Moment's anger can revert to joy,
sadness can be turned to delight.
A nation destroyed cannot be restored,
the dead brought back to life."

Art of War

Beta & Gretchen Forever!!!!

MiKeMiTchi

September 01, 2009, 11:00:21 pm #54 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by MiKeMiTchi
Okay. Analyzing the riddle again.

Quote"Legends in their own right,
from humble beginnings,
they have seen their share of battle.

The character must be a hero of some sort, the char must come from past FF.

QuoteThey each fell in the same place,
Their origins paint their fate, swift.

Does this mean the character come from FF Origins?

QuoteTheir birthgiven names mangled,
Now their roles have changed.

Hmm.. since in mercenaries, Ramza's role was changed, so
the char will then change role, too. Birthgiven names?
mangled? CID?

QuotePersonae unfamiliar, foreign even.
Though to one of careful observance,
They are seen plain as day."

Cid is plain any day, seems like a foreign name in any FF..
The personae is unpredictable.
Jot5 GFX Designer :: Spriter :: Mitchi

LastingDawn

September 01, 2009, 11:09:06 pm #55 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by LastingDawn
Very good guess, but slightly flawed analysis, the answer isn't Cid.
"Moment's anger can revert to joy,
sadness can be turned to delight.
A nation destroyed cannot be restored,
the dead brought back to life."

Art of War

Beta & Gretchen Forever!!!!

MiKeMiTchi

September 01, 2009, 11:17:18 pm #56 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by MiKeMiTchi
I'm thinking about the first two pars..
Hmm.. "Legend" and "Origins" are likely to mean the char came from FF2.

Is it Firion?
QuoteFirion decides to join the rebels to exact vengeance upon the empire.

Hmm.. but that doesn't change his role.


but he doesn't fit the 'plain' context.
Jot5 GFX Designer :: Spriter :: Mitchi

LastingDawn

September 01, 2009, 11:23:38 pm #57 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by LastingDawn
Another good guess, but no it is not Firion.
"Moment's anger can revert to joy,
sadness can be turned to delight.
A nation destroyed cannot be restored,
the dead brought back to life."

Art of War

Beta & Gretchen Forever!!!!

MiKeMiTchi

September 01, 2009, 11:31:02 pm #58 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by MiKeMiTchi
My other guesses:

Egde
Faris
MOG!

okay. time to go to class.
Jot5 GFX Designer :: Spriter :: Mitchi

SilvasRuin

September 02, 2009, 12:33:30 am #59 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by SilvasRuin
The temple knights or whatever they are called that Delita joined?  If they all were people originally recruited the way Wiegraf was, then it would seem to fit.  That or the Death Corps, or Wiegraf himself.
Those are my best guesses for now.