What is love?

[DarthPaul]

Things are never as bad as they seem to the pessimist and never as good as they seem to the optimist.

[SickBastard]

Definetely not the way I expected and hoped this topic would go but all the same.....

[Xifanie]

love = more time before the first fuck

it's not more complicated than that

[Redux]

love = more time before the first fuck

it's not more complicated than that

Zodiac seems to be quite disillutioned. Hehe. In some ways though i concede that you are right about it.

[Ant]

Tits

Well played, sir.

[Archael]

!!!! w-what??? omg a real sentence from YOU, Algus!? *looks out the window and sees that pigs are flying* then *turns on the tv to hear a news report that the earth's insides, hell, has frozen over*

the earth's insides isn't hell you bible thumping retard

[Redux]

!!!! w-what??? omg a real sentence from YOU, Algus!? *looks out the window and sees that pigs are flying* then *turns on the tv to hear a news report that the earth's insides, hell, has frozen over*

the earth's insides isn't hell you bible thumping retard

But it is hot as hell Voldemort. The real hell is a metaphysical hell imagine by people to escape from by doing "good" deeds.

[Kuraudo Sutoraifu]

the earth's insides isn't hell you bible thumping retard

People have a ton of misconceptions on what the Bible says, so why shouldn't they have misconceptions on hell?

Most pre-round earth religions at some point equated hell (tartarus, gahenna, etc.) was below the flat earth and heaven was above.  Zozma is just stuck in that era.

[Archael]

it's 2009 bro, wake up

we KNOW what's in the center of the earth, this is not a matter of opinion

"hot as hell" is a valid reference

"hot as hell, that is under the earth" is not

and by extension this isn't either

to hear a news report that the earth's insides, hell, has frozen over

"the earth's insides" lol as if this was common knowledge!!

[DarthPaul]

I'm pretty sure Zozma was just making a joke and he was trying to make it funny, therefore he didn't think it through.

I've made the mistake of combining the two. What makes that worse is the closest religion I am too, doesn't believe in hell or The devil.

[Redux]

I'm pretty sure Zozma was just making a joke and he was trying to make it funny, therefore he didn't think it through.


I've made the mistake of combining the two. What makes that worse is the closest religion I am too, doesn't believe in hell or The devil.

One could argue religion is merely man's attempt to justify and give importance/ meaning to his actions or beliefs? Granted i believe complete atheists are being a bit arrogant. To say that there is no source for all things in a wold where every other act of creation require energy and mass means something, no matter how far back or far forward in time it is or was came into being without requirements and is as such the basic identity of a "God" something that was not created from anything else, yet impacts the universe and creates within it, directly or indirectly.
But i digress.

TLDR, Organized religion is man maknig God. True god is most likely beyond human comprehension. Atheists worship no god like believers worship god and OH GOD PHILOSOPHIC DETOUR!

[DarthPaul]

One could argue religion is merely man's attempt to justify and give importance/ meaning to his actions or beliefs? Granted i believe complete atheists are being a bit arrogant. To say that there is no source for all things in a wold where every other act of creation require energy and mass means something, no matter how far back or far forward in time it is or was came into being without requirements and is as such the basic identity of a "St. Ajora" something that was not created from anything else, yet impacts the universe and creates within it, directly or indirectly.
But i digress.

This is why I am an agnostic over an atheist. I can't say for sure till I see the evidence, and frankly there is not enough evidence to prove or disprove most religions.

[Redux]

One could argue religion is merely man's attempt to justify and give importance/ meaning to his actions or beliefs? Granted i believe complete atheists are being a bit arrogant. To say that there is no source for all things in a wold where every other act of creation require energy and mass means something, no matter how far back or far forward in time it is or was came into being without requirements and is as such the basic identity of a "St. Ajora" something that was not created from anything else, yet impacts the universe and creates within it, directly or indirectly.
But i digress.

This is why I am an agnostic over an atheist. I can't say for sure till I see the evidence, and frankly there is not enough evidence to prove or disprove most religions.

Personally i am a deist but ive been looknig in to the ideas of more liberal gnosticism lately.

[philsov]

This is why I am an agnostic over an atheist. I can't say for sure till I see the evidence, and frankly there is not enough evidence to prove or disprove most religions.

As Zozma stated love does not truly exist. It is just a perceived fantasy of a feeble human mind seeking acceptance from others.

I will believe it when I see it. Missouri blood talking right there.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

[Ant]

I don't understand the claim that "love" doesn't exist. I can understand claiming that one does not feel it, but to claim that it's totally nonexistent seems a bit much.

When the term is being used correctly, it's definitely describing an extant emotional/physical state. Being an emotion, I don't think that requiring it to be outwardly quantifiable or universally applicable is fair, exactly.

To me, it seems identical to someone claiming not to believe in anger, because they've never been angry. If someone made this claim, it would appear to be utterly ridiculous (granted, anger is a more simple emotion, so the comparison may not be perfect).

Even if it's an "illusion" or self-delusion, it exists as soon as it's believed and felt. No other emotion seems to be held to this standard of scrutiny for existence.

spoiler

tl;dr
BABY DON'T HURT ME

[Redux]

I don't understand the claim that "love" doesn't exist. I can understand claiming that one does not feel it, but to claim that it's totally nonexistent seems a bit much.

When the term is being used correctly, it's definitely describing an extant emotional/physical state. Being an emotion, I don't think that requiring it to be outwardly quantifiable or universally applicable is fair, exactly.

To me, it seems identical to someone claiming not to believe in anger, because they've never been angry. If someone made this claim, it would appear to be utterly ridiculous (granted, anger is a more simple emotion, so the comparison may not be perfect).

Even if it's an "illusion" or self-delusion, it exists as soon as it's believed and felt. No other emotion seems to be held to this standard of scrutiny for existence.

spoiler

tl;dr
BABY DON'T HURT ME

In the relative world of humaninty and human perception, feeling is everything, so i suppose ant is correct. On a relative scale felt = exists, illusion or not.

[Archael]

This is why I am an agnostic over an atheist. I can't say for sure till I see the evidence, and frankly there is not enough evidence to prove or disprove most religions.

As Zozma stated love does not truly exist. It is just a perceived fantasy of a feeble human mind seeking acceptance from others.

I will believe it when I see it. Missouri blood talking right there.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

lmao

nice catch there

@ Ant; you are correct

the chemicals responsible for the feeling humans feel when they are in "love" is very real indeed

love does exist, just as much as anger, depression, and the rest

[X definition of perfect platonic love] might not exist, though, and is another question altogether

[Xifanie]

i ♥ u archy

[SilvasRuin]

Hell froze over a very long time ago if you want to believe Dante.

[Redux]

Hell froze over a very long time ago if you want to believe Dante.

I always thought suicides encased in ice was nice touch in the center of Hell hehe.