Suikoden Series

[SentinalBlade]

Lets talk suikoden

We all can agree, the series has gone down a HUGE hill ever since 2.

Suikoden 3 was a good game, and still kept the semblance of a good battle system. But the story was REALLY lacking, and they racked up half the game(all 28 hours of it) by letting you paly through each characters viewpoint of teh same story. Not TO bad, considering the overall plot was cool (and Yuber was kickass) but it was severly lacking. it was the first one in 3D.

I never played 4. I saw it and quickly lost interest in its diversion from the suikoden series, i saw my friend play it and it just didnt feel like the same game...at all.

5 was better than 4, but ill be damned if all the characters just seemed static or off balance to me. plus halfway through the game, you never had to use other people. You got 4 people that wer so over powered you didnt even need to cahnge another member. ever. In all suikodens, you can do that, but certain characters and runes help in certain situations more than others. you can struggle with the same party or you cna switch it a bit. in 5, you didnt struggle, ever.


The newest one, Suikoden Teirkris for the DS(comes out in the US Tommorow, but has ben in the EU for a month) Is ACTUALLY GOOD.

There are plenty of odds, like Runes are now called mark of the stars. but so far, each 108 stars of destiny(all 108 characters) all have different skills and attributes, instead of equipping and and detatching runes. It feels really odd without runes, but its not bad at all..

The second, and probably biggest deal, is the voice overs. they are AWFUL. Lui is the only one that talks at normal speed. Its like they put each sentence in a voice clip and put no downtime before queing the next one. (Lui is the exception)

So far, about 3 hours into it, its got a half decent sotryline to. you go out on a mission to exterminate some rabid, albeit gigantic, mice, and go look for their nest, run into a temple and find a book that gives you the mark of the stars. few other people that touch it gain the marks to, but everyone else doesnt feel a thing. Then someone from a parralel world comes in looking for a creature from her world that came in....its all slightly confusing unless you view yourself >.<

If needed ill say more, but even that early on its quite a few spoilers >.<

All in all the DS game is great, with a few qualms here and there. but for the most part, its along the lines of suikoden tactics. A GREAT Spinoff.

[Kaijyuu]

I've only played 1. I found it to be a decent game, though nothing extraordinary. The setting and castle building/character recruitment were the only things really keeping me playing.

[SentinalBlade]

Thats what keeps ever suikoden series alive. back when suikoden 1 was released, the plot was at least origona =o

[Kaijyuu]

I suppose. They never really explained what was so bad about the empire they were overthrowing, though... some bad apples at the top (like that guy that killed Gremio, and the vampire dude) but that's true for any government. (well, maybe not vampires..)

anyway, I sympathized with the "enemy" more than I perhaps should've. I mean, even the big bad emperor didn't seem like a bad guy at all.

[DarthPaul]

Which one had Grimio........or was it Gremio...........I don't remember but I thought he was gay.

[Tea]

anyway, I sympathized with the "enemy" more than I perhaps should've. I mean, even the big bad emperor didn't seem like a bad guy at all.

Star Ocean 3 has you play the bad guys beating the normal guy as last boss. It's weird.

[SentinalBlade]

Suikoden 1 had Gremio.

The corruption was of a woman named Windy. who used the power of several runes to corrupt innocent people and destroy things.
It doesnt really take long to figure out who windy is, just over an hour or so.
They actually explain it very well. the emporer fell in love wiht windy and did her bidding because of that(love sucks) but jumped off the castle after grabbing windy(love sucks even more) when you destroy his dragon rune.



The DS game isnt as good as 1 or 2, but its definatly still good.

[DarthPaul]

I might have to torrent Suik 1.


Thanks SB.

[Archael]

I disagree

[Zozma]

you know i managed to keep keep Ted till the end. he is like the best magic user (odessa is almost just as good except she is SUPER fast)

anyway, i love the series. 3 was my favorite even tho ppl beat up on it quite a bit, i really want to see whats NEXT on the timeline and not so many prequils.

only thing is i wish things spread out a lot more like 1, 2 and 3 are only within like 30 years of eachother on the timeline? id love to see the true rune users from 3 after say 500 years? heh...

[SentinalBlade]

Agreed Zozma.

I think 7(i remember hearing about it in japanese) is about 230 years in the future from 2, after the Joustan states fall.


And i just played through suikoden 2 on my psp last night. lots of grammer problems, but then again what PSX game didnt have those.

@Voldemort disagree about what?