Calculator class - what should I do with it?

[scorpiova]

Hey guys,

Sorry for asking so many questions here lately. But I am really nose deep in this now and I am enjoying it lol.

I am trying to figure out what to do with the Calculator class. I am altering the majority of the classes - but I am not quite understanding how to change the calculator into something interesting.

Can I make the calculator act like a normal job? Or will it always act like the calculator? I have tried setting the action menu to nothing but that did not seem to work. Adding new skills to the class just made the skill set grey out in combat. Is there any way to make it into a different kind of class?

Would simply changing the skills in that skill set into something different make the the class act more normally? Not sure if that makes sense or not.

Or if not, what have people done with it to make it unique/interesting?

[Angel]

It really depends on school of thought. TASing FFT is what brought me here, and it quickly became apparent that fastest result was solo Ramza Calculator. It is MASSIVELY OP. But if all you do is restrict it, it goes from ludicrously OP to useless, so if you don't want to retain its fecking insane usefulness in the hands of either player or AI, it's better to just kill the job off. Calculator is so difficult to balance that you really do have to choose between obscenely overpowered and laughably useless. There really is no in-between.

[Xifanie]

To normalize the Calculator job, you need to:

• Change the menu type to normal


• Use my Skillsets Behaviours hack to normalize the skillset


• Apply my Remove forced slowdown for Math Skill (Skillset ID 0x15) (otherwise, multi-target abilities travel from one target to the other very slowly)


• Apply Choto's hack to allow skills in that skillset to be reflectable again

[scorpiova]

To normalize the Calculator job, you need to:

• Change the menu type to normal


• Use my Skillsets Behaviours hack to normalize the skillset


• Apply my Remove forced slowdown for Math Skill (Skillset ID 0x15) (otherwise, multi-target abilities travel from one target to the other very slowly)


• Apply Choto's hack to allow skills in that skillset to be reflectable again

Very interesting - so if I apply your skillset behavior hack to the Calculator or the Archer or one of the others that have a specific set of skills - once normalized - can I then add other skills/spells to them to use and learn? Can I give the Calculator a skillset a variety of spells and then they would be able to cast spells just like the black or white mage? Or does it become an empty skillset like with the mime, not able to learn skills?

[Emmy]

You can give any skills you want to it, and they become normal skills just like any other set. 

Also if you want to normalize Archer, you need both Xifanie's Skillset Behavior hack and this one.  Otherwise characters will cancel their own spells if they move.

  <Patch name="Silly hardcoding removal, related to skillset 08">
    <Description>If you use skillset 08 (charge) for anything other than charge, you want to use this hack.  This eliminates the hardcoding that causes characters to cancel their own spells by moving.</Description>
    <Location file="BATTLE_BIN" offset="1191a0">
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    </Location>
  </Patch>

[scorpiova]

You can give any skills you want to it, and they become normal skills just like any other set. 

Also if you want to normalize Archer, you need both Xifanie's Skillset Behavior hack and this one.  Otherwise characters will cancel their own spells if they move.

  <Patch name="Silly hardcoding removal, related to skillset 08">
    <Description>If you use skillset 08 (charge) for anything other than charge, you want to use this hack.  This eliminates the hardcoding that causes characters to cancel their own spells by moving.</Description>
    <Location file="BATTLE_BIN" offset="1191a0">
FFFF0234
    </Location>
  </Patch>

Cool thank you. Ultimately this is what I've bee n trying to achieve. To put my own custom classes in the game by replacing existing class. Exciting.

[scorpiova]

You can give any skills you want to it, and they become normal skills just like any other set. 

Also if you want to normalize Archer, you need both Xifanie's Skillset Behavior hack and this one.  Otherwise characters will cancel their own spells if they move.

  <Patch name="Silly hardcoding removal, related to skillset 08">
    <Description>If you use skillset 08 (charge) for anything other than charge, you want to use this hack.  This eliminates the hardcoding that causes characters to cancel their own spells by moving.</Description>
    <Location file="BATTLE_BIN" offset="1191a0">
FFFF0234
    </Location>
  </Patch>

Hmm - this might be all over my head. I tried applying the patches for Skillset Behavior, The Silly Hardcoding, and Math skill Slowdown. I am testing out several skills on the chemist job - but unfortunately every character (squire and chemist) can't attack now. Instead when I select attack it just bounces back to the attack menu, all I can do is move and end my turn.

So I'm not sure how I shagged it up LOL.

EDIT: I think I figured it out. I had copied one of the codes wrong. Thanks for the help everyone!