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.xdelta format instead of .ppf

Started by Xifanie, December 15, 2013, 08:56:29 pm

Xifanie

December 15, 2013, 08:56:29 pm Last Edit: December 15, 2013, 11:03:28 pm by Xifanie
I'm making this topic because, well, ppf sucks.

If you want to give it a try: http://www.romhacking.net/utilities/704/

Pros:

  • Great compression*
  • Much faster patch creation (about 2-3 faster than PPF-Studio WITH compression)

  • GUI can associate to .xdelta files for quickly applying patches

  • Copies surrounding data to save file size, and avoid "raw patching" copyrighted data (as it stands, PPFs from shishi extended images are illegal)

  • Makes the image match the filesize of the original one used for creating the patch if it's too short


*JotF patch: .xdelta 4mb raw / 3.4mb 7zipped ... .ppf 20.4mb raw / 5.9mb 7zipped

Cons:

  • Cannot be patched on unclean ISOs

  • The GUI is not official, and thus Windows only

  • Linux version of xdelta might be buggy



If we use .xdelta alongside FFTOrgASM .xml files, I don't see the necessity of using PPF anymore. Of course, I can't force anyone... but I always hated that we'd provide patches contained copyrighted data like that.
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formerdeathcorps

Why can't it be patched on "unclean" ISOs?  Is this a checksum issue?
Also, how would copying surrounding data save filesize?  Wouldn't that only make the patch larger?
Lastly, since game-patching is technically illegal anyways (in any form), why would the distinction between "raw patching" and "patching from base" matter?

I agree that PPF is not a good system, but unless this has soft-patching abilities on ePSXe or pSXfin, I don't see it being decisively better.
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Xifanie

It's not a checksum issue.

For example, if I make a patch restructured by shishi, (just making all this up) the patch will say to copy the knight spritesheet from 0xC65000 to 0xCC9000. So yes, using a couple bytes to hold the information to copy huge blocks of data from a location to another saves a great amount of filesize. And it's for this reason you can't patch more than once; it will copy data that is now altered, so it screw up everything. I can't even make the game load past the PlayStation logo with an image pasted twice.

The problem with providing raw data is FFH itself. It puts this website at risk. Yep, I already know everyone using FFT images and even patching them is illegal, but that's more of a problem on an individual (person) level.

pSXfin doesn't support soft patching, I don't know about epsxe. Even if epsxe does, it's a shitty emulator that not everyone uses.
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Anything is possible as long as it is within the hardware's limits. (ie. disc space, RAM, Video RAM, processor, etc.)
<R999> My target market is not FFT mod players
<Raijinili> remember that? it was awful