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Spam / Re: On The Contrary
September 09, 2010, 05:28:06 am
Deleted this post via editing, since this person below thinks I was just spewing and hate mongering so yeah. I'm done and locking this up
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Spam / Re: On The Contrary
September 08, 2010, 12:45:19 pm
Quote from: "Zodiac"This video inspired me a lot. I want to write a book now...
With many, many primary characters. Each of the characters would exist in a world where no atheism exist, and they would all need to confront themselves to other religions, but by far their own. All this to show the true nature of religion: how it limits one's existence and predefines one's way of living, removing all their liberty. And while doing this, show passively how nearly everything in religion (heaven, hell, sins, myths, stories) are just a copy/paste of what can be found in other religions. Of course there would be space for revision of the holy laws (most obvious example being the bible).

It would be more epic if the setting took place on an island (based off of the "Lost" series) with one die-hard Catholic, Lutheran, protestant, and one for every other minor religion and see if they could get along. Only problem I see though is if you could somehow prevent them from killing each other in the name of their diety(ies) and because of their superstitious beliefs.

@ Dome: That was exactly my thought

@ Phil: Of the four, only Hitchens could possibly come close to Betrand Russel.
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Spam / Re: On The Contrary
September 07, 2010, 10:59:15 am
Sh*t, I've been double posting by accident, srry
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Spam / Re: On The Contrary
September 07, 2010, 10:52:07 am
Swiftly yes, I should've slowed down to allow myself the chance to digress your input... srry

I get what you mean now...(the def agnosticism i.e.) ... I just thought that at time an Kaijyuu was just an "agnostic" that's all.
But yeah, he's an agnostic of theology.
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Spam / Re: On The Contrary
September 07, 2010, 10:38:55 am
K , well I'm looking at M-W.com and it says this "on the contrary"

1: a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and probably unknowable; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god
2: a person unwilling to commit to an opinion about something <political agnostics>

while dictionary.reference.com says

-a person who holds that the existence of the ultimate cause, as god, and the essential nature of things are unknown and unknowable, or that human knowledge is limited to experience.
- a person who denies or doubts the possibility of ultimate knowledge in some area of study.

Correct if I'm wrong here, but it seems like this isn't a black or white (u do or don't believe in a God as you suggested) issue, but rather a grey one because ur stance could be unknown like in the definitions provided above.


I wasn't trying to pick a fight and say u didn't know what you were talking about and argue over the semantics of agnosticism It's just a misinterpretation on my part. Well, maybe I'll just have to look at the term a little deeper by focusing on you e.gs and if I'm still stumped, I'll bring my points up.
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Spam / Re: On The Contrary
September 07, 2010, 10:02:28 am
I think he meant to say was he is an agnostic Voldemort. Essentially it's a person who doesn't have definitive belief as to whether a deity or deities exist and therefore doesn't have a formulated  and definitive opinion/ no position on them. In other words, St. Ajora's (Yes I typed it in you bastard Zodiac) existence to an Agnostic is unknown to them.

The reason why I brought up religion from the last thread is because I wanted to show a theologic-based extremist and then ask as to whether I should help him out at all by putting his disingenious "I'm better than u crazy fucking athiests mwahahah" attitude (rather more of a raid from Yaweh!) to a ceasefire. Don't get me wrong, there are Atheists as well who prob say "I know for fact NO GOD'S exist" and exhibit the same level of ignorance. It's just whenever I search the web (mostly YT) I don't hear that sentiment from an atheist coming out at all.

TAA from YT attempts to show that he definitively knows the Christian St. Ajora (I did it again... you fucker) because the way he's characterized in the bible disproves the he's not "all-knowing".

Here are some quotes saying he isn't
Isaiah 11:12  
12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH. (KJV)

Revelation 7:1
1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. (KJV)  

Job 38:13
13 That it might take hold of the ENDS OF THE EARTH, that the wicked might be shaken out of it? (KJV)  

Jeremiah 16:19
19 O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ENDS OF THE EARTH, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit. (KJV)  

Daniel 4:11
11 The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the ENDS OF ALL THE EARTH: (KJV)  

Matthew 4:8
8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; (KJV)  

source:http://www.answering-christianity.com/earth_flat.htm

Although these may be directly from the bible, taking the word from a couple authors a few thousand years ago is pretty sketchy. This is where I disagree w/ TJ because they could be wrong for all we know, and maybe God just wanted people to think that he thought the world was flat for whatever reason that may be.


TIME TO DIRECTLY RESPOND TO SOME OF YOUR SUBSTANCE.

"As for the "taking offense" thing, they kinda missed the heart of why people get offended when their faith is questioned. It's not just the question of whether they've wasted their lives that offends them. Religions inspire reverence to individual(s) (fictional or no) and hope for the future, which are two powerful and very personal emotions. Questioning someone's religion is questioning that hope and reverence. It is just as offensive as pointing out issues with their face (which was an analogy they used), because it's just as personal (if not more so)."

The only issue I have here is when you said religions inspired reverence. Your theologic upbringings don't teach you about respect so you can flounder it as well. I know this from experience by attending the 1st two years of HS at one of the most prestigious private schools here in MN. When I was there, I was subjected to the Catholic Faith and it's bias' yes, but they didn't enforce the principle of "treat other the way you want to be treated", because that deals with social ethics and not morality. Morality and religion go hand-in hand while ethics and society are unified. Just think, about 90 years ago, the standard that women couldn't vote was acceptable in the United States and today people look at that and laugh about how stupid it was of us. Religion's the same way and as technology advances foward with great speed, maybe some day the existence of St. Ajora will be verified, which leads me to to my next tid bit.

Oh, and here's the website of my school http://cadets.com/

"Personally I'm agnostic and think the whole debate is pointless. It's like debating whether Sam Gamgee (or any other character/story you make up) exists in a galaxy far far away/another dimension/whatever. The answer's always going to be maybe but probably not*, and it's not worth arguing over either way. Believe what you like and stop bickering."

Arch already addressed the bickering and dissension issues so that's not necessary. But anyways, I actually believe the God(s) debate is important because if we as fellow humans can come to a primitive take on the issue, many civil wars along with other discourse will be reduced in appearances and length. To extrapilate upon that, more compotent theologians will emerge and be more willing to pitch in towards this discussion.

If it turns out that God comes down and announces his realism, then I'll throw my hands up in the air and say to doubters
choosing not believe in something's existence even though it does is nuts. Same goes for the StarTrek Universe and it's Tartkan language or w.e it's called as well as the World of the Hobbits and etc...

BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY!!! Even if let's say Yaweh existed, it doesn't mean I would convert to Christianity and it's principles. I would feel sad and sick to my stomach if he/they were real because what that means for me and everyone else on the planet is that he/they've watched us play with our balls/tits and try to lick them (insert perverted action) like any sick person would dream of being able to do (e.g. MOST Republicans and some Democrats like Bill Clinton and John Edwards, just to name a few).

Lastly, I agree shutting-up people who impose their beliefs upon you while leaving bystandards alone is a good idea. I wouldn't go up on the street to someone and ask them what their religious beliefs are. That would be another example of social ethics or what I like to call being courteous to others.

Voldemort: Though your act of kindess is charming indeed, it had a 0% effect on me. It might work on Zodiac though for he is not for certain fully male as his avatar suggests otherwise.
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Spam / On The Contrary
September 06, 2010, 10:37:47 pm
A handful of the smartest  and most civil people in the world

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuyUz2XLp1E
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Spam / Re: Dumbest religious-nut ever?
September 06, 2010, 09:23:36 pm
Rofl SilvasRuin.

I saw that vid  as well as his follow-ups and all I can say is he's got a brain, which is something most people don't have. I've made like 6 or 7 vids of my own responding to  Rich, and now he has censored me from commenting for no reason at all. I guess I could just flood his account w/ millions of messages about the lies he's spread   8)


Quote from: "Kaijyuu"Convincing anyone on youtube of anything is an endeavor that's doomed to fail.

O well, at least I tried to inform him of the stupidity his vids displayed.
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Spam / Dumbest religious-nut ever?
September 04, 2010, 07:49:45 pm
Bigots aren't usually people I don't deal with, but watching them destructively criticize others religious beliefs is something that gets under my skin. Just watch a few of his vids and you'll see what I mean.


http://www.youtube.com/user/shockofgod


Is it better to help him see the error of his ways, or should I let him come to a reasonable conclusion on his own? That being getting him to acknowledge choosing not to believe in a God or Gods is a perfectly legitimate stance.
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Spam / Re: Finally connected wii and ds to the Wi-fi!
September 03, 2010, 08:47:51 pm
I would play brawl, but I don't live w/ my folks anymore.
U do mean Brawl(SSBB) though right?
If so, and it's out of curiosity, who do u main as?
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The Lounge / epsxe 1.6.0 emulator and CamStudio tutorial
September 01, 2010, 08:07:08 pm
Let me know if I left out any important details at all, and I'll update them under my description so people on YT can have an easier time figuring this stuff out.

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The Lounge / Re: Game just like FFT?
September 01, 2010, 07:48:40 pm
Quote from: "scynoth"If i can figure out how to put it onto a disk and play it via my Playstation I will defiantly be doing that.

Just to add on to that, I'll be posting a vid soon in a thread here under the General forum so you can play it quicker and not have to spend like five hours figuring out how :)

I'm thinking it'll be called "epsxe v1.6.0 emulator and CamStudio tutorial".
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Spam / Re: Neverending FFT
August 27, 2010, 11:16:47 pm
the use of
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The Lounge / Re: Your Favorite FF music
August 27, 2010, 11:16:14 pm
THAT THEME ROCKS! I love that boss theme especially when it gets all majestic at 00:30 :)

One of my favs is no not only the overrated "One-Winged Angel", but the tropical theme of "Cinco de Chocobo"

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Spam / Re: Neverending FFT
August 26, 2010, 07:21:16 pm
because he is
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LOL, I just got done recording an Alucard playthrough on the saturn version and now I'm doing Maria and eventually Richter's AND A SECOND RUN OF REPLAYING THE BEGINNING OF 1.3030 . There's more where that came from, haha but yeah what a coincidence.

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Spam / Re: Neverending FFT
August 25, 2010, 12:57:57 am
Dome why did
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The Lounge / Re: Now Playing
August 24, 2010, 05:33:29 pm
Currently figuring out how to transfer my team from Pokemon FireRed Omega to Emerald 386 so I can take on the trainers at the Battle Frontier





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Spam / Re: Neverending FFT
August 21, 2010, 12:02:05 pm
two inch cock
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Spam / Re: MAGITEK
August 15, 2010, 09:49:09 am
Magitek the Porky... FFH AI Tournament Season 3. That was my first though seeing this thread  :!: