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Modding => Spriting => Topic started by: Maa_Kun on December 23, 2011, 11:14:28 pm

Title: Haunting Ground - Fiona Belli
Post by: Maa_Kun on December 23, 2011, 11:14:28 pm
So yeah... i'm new here, hey!
I'm not sure if this is the right place to put this, but eh... i tripped over lots of broken links. So lemme apologize beforehand, if anything.

Well! This is a little edit using the Generic Female Thief spritesheet from Ran Master 27 as a base. It's (Or it's supposed to be) Fiona Belli from Haunting Ground, and it's my first attempt at sprite editing, so i apologize if it's too crappy. >_>

Edited cause the image was too big, also ": x" makes for "mad"? Interesting...
Title: Re: Haunting Ground - Fiona Belli
Post by: formerdeathcorps on December 24, 2011, 01:43:15 am
For a first time work, this is acceptable, but incomplete.

1) It doesn't look like Fiona has a ponytail, but your sprite still has it.
2) Your portrait still has black hair.
Title: Re: Haunting Ground - Fiona Belli
Post by: GeneralStrife on December 24, 2011, 01:45:37 am
the hair is too saturated, look at other light blonde characters
Title: Re: Haunting Ground - Fiona Belli
Post by: Maa_Kun on December 24, 2011, 02:04:39 am
@formerdeathcorps: Oh, she does have a ponytail, which is why i chose that sprite... as for the portrait, i haven't figured out how to edit it properly.
@General Strife: Really? I was kinda aiming for "white-blonde", but hm...
Title: Re: Haunting Ground - Fiona Belli
Post by: GeneralStrife on December 24, 2011, 02:29:36 am
Quote from: Maa_Kun on December 24, 2011, 02:04:39 am
@formerdeathcorps:  as for the portrait, i haven't figured out how to edit it properly.

http://ffhacktics.com/tutorials.php?id=10
Title: Re: Haunting Ground - Fiona Belli
Post by: Lijj on December 24, 2011, 02:36:00 am
The blue thing on her collar is only in the front view and a few other frames.
What the hair needs is more contrast between the shades. Them all being light makes it look flat. The orangish-peach color in the hair is not good. The main color needs to be the same as the gray you use in the hair but lighter maybe. And the one that's already gray needs to be darker shade of the same hue.
Also the highlight is darker than the hair right now. That makes it look weird.. make it just a lighter shade of the same hue as well.
I think also the skirt could be more like the color from the image posted.
Title: Re: Haunting Ground - Fiona Belli
Post by: Maa_Kun on December 24, 2011, 02:38:09 am
@Mr. Strife: D'oh, thanks a lot. Guess i didn't look EVERYwhere i should've, sorry. ._.
@Lijj: Thanks for the observation, i'll see what i can do!
Title: Re: Haunting Ground - Fiona Belli
Post by: 3lric on December 24, 2011, 02:41:53 am
:O I love Haunting Ground. Can't wait to see the finished product  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Haunting Ground - Fiona Belli
Post by: Maa_Kun on December 24, 2011, 08:40:01 pm
Kinda like this?
Title: Re: Haunting Ground - Fiona Belli
Post by: 3lric on December 25, 2011, 06:20:38 am
I like it, but it just seems to light to look right in FFT to me.
Title: Re: Haunting Ground - Fiona Belli
Post by: GeneralStrife on December 25, 2011, 08:42:38 pm
Yeah, your hair is too bright, shades are too close together. portrait...is...well I can't tell atm but its kinda the same way
Title: Re: Haunting Ground - Fiona Belli
Post by: Maa_Kun on December 25, 2011, 10:13:49 pm
Hm, here's how it came out...
Title: Re: Haunting Ground - Fiona Belli
Post by: 3lric on December 26, 2011, 02:22:47 am
I've always been told that its betst to use pre-existing FFT colors for everything for it to look best
Title: Re: Haunting Ground - Fiona Belli
Post by: Wolfran on December 26, 2011, 11:33:44 am
I suggest you to check on Alma with white hair, is not too bright but it would look better.
Title: Re: Haunting Ground - Fiona Belli
Post by: Kagebunji on December 28, 2011, 05:38:08 am
I looked closer on it as you asked, but I didn't even know where to start. Firstly it is beyond 16 colors, so you will need to drop it. Another thing is the color choice, you surely didn't take them from FFT, and they clash way too much. The size of head is also wrong, it is too small, you should use more parts from existing portraits, and modify them A LITTLE BIT right now, untill you get more practice. The chest is very wrongly shaded, and looks as if something was about to come out of it(light source is at fault here), and shouldrs are smaller than chest itself and placed quite low, which is another proportions issue.

Overall I couldn't fix it, cause there was too much wrong, it would be easier to start over, and use way more copy/pasting and FFT colors right now. Do custom work once you get used to FFT style.
Title: Re: Haunting Ground - Fiona Belli
Post by: Maa_Kun on December 28, 2011, 05:14:15 pm
That's... really, that's a lot easier than trying to fix it without knowing what was wrong (or right) with it. >_> Least now i know what to do!

(Edit: Here's what i came up with. .-. For the blues i used the M-Chemist's sprite.)
Title: Re: Haunting Ground - Fiona Belli
Post by: 3lric on December 28, 2011, 05:45:11 pm
Quote from: Maa_Kun on December 28, 2011, 05:14:15 pm
That's... really, that's a lot easier than trying to fix it without knowing what was wrong (or right) with it. >_> Least now i know what to do!

(Edit: Here's what i came up with. .-. For the blues i used the M-Chemist's sprite.)

Wow, i like that quite a bit, thats a bit improvement. Is that only using 16 colors tho?
Title: Re: Haunting Ground - Fiona Belli
Post by: Maa_Kun on December 28, 2011, 06:13:29 pm
Yup, it's 16 colors! I also tried limiting the spritesheet palette to 16 colors, now it looks like this:
Title: Re: Haunting Ground - Fiona Belli
Post by: Kagebunji on December 28, 2011, 06:44:24 pm
I did some work on the portrait, mainly clean-up. The ear should be visible, so I added it, and erased the bad chunk of hair by doing this. Another thing is the blue, you should drop the brightest one and make it into another shade of white(you have only two of those, and clothes looks flat cause of it). Remember to take colors from FFT. Once you update the palette, I will move further with this portrait.
Title: Re: Haunting Ground - Fiona Belli
Post by: GeneralStrife on December 28, 2011, 06:56:08 pm
First thing I noticed look at the side frame is the boot is colored like the skirt for whatever reason, it doesn't look right. Make sure to take colors from other sprites
Title: Re: Haunting Ground - Fiona Belli
Post by: Maa_Kun on December 28, 2011, 07:04:03 pm
@Kagebunji: Alrighty, i stole the hair from Ovelia, so i might as well steal the whites while i'm at it. XD
@Mr.Strife: Ack, yeah... i got the brown off hair shades, i guess once i limited palette to 16 colors some things didn't switch well. >_>

Edited for palette update (two whites(grays?)), though i couldn't find a portrait with a similar shading to use as reference and so the shirt just looks awkwardly gray now.
I couldn't add the choker, either... i figured using Ovelia's collar and changing the grays to browns would work, but i just made it look weird.

Also, the gray/dark brown pixels to the right of her neck look a bit awkward to me, but i might just be looking at it from the wrong side. .-.
Title: Re: Haunting Ground - Fiona Belli
Post by: formerdeathcorps on December 29, 2011, 05:22:35 am
FFT's conventions are nice, but this doesn't look like her at all.  Try a lighter shade of hair (like Balmufula's, or even something custom and lighter).  Just not what you posted originally, which was blinding.

Some problems I noticed:
1) There looks like there are spikes coming out of her neck.
2) What's with these stray black pixels?
Title: Re: Haunting Ground - Fiona Belli
Post by: RandMuadDib on December 30, 2011, 12:37:59 am
i'm guessing collarbone?
Title: Re: Haunting Ground - Fiona Belli
Post by: Kagebunji on January 19, 2012, 09:54:52 am
Some more fixes, on body and hair, a lil on face. More to come later.
Title: Re: Haunting Ground - Fiona Belli
Post by: shishi-sensou on January 19, 2012, 10:59:02 am
Quote from: Kagebunji on January 19, 2012, 09:54:52 am
Some more fixes, on body and hair, a lil on face. More to come later.
i love this Version Kage