Title: sprite swapping ramza and delita.
Post by: Katagi on August 13, 2008, 09:08:45 pm
Post by: Katagi on August 13, 2008, 09:08:45 pm
I was thinking of swapping Ramza and Delita with another sprite, will these glitch up during their story animations? Like if Ramza does an animation that none of the generic characters do.
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Post by: Zozma on August 13, 2008, 09:24:41 pm
Post by: Zozma on August 13, 2008, 09:24:41 pm
battle animations will be fine, story animations will look like the real ramza with the swapped character's color palette and portrait.
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Post by: Katagi on August 13, 2008, 09:27:47 pm
Post by: Katagi on August 13, 2008, 09:27:47 pm
ah jeez...meaning he's going going to look really weird and messed up at those times...
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Post by: Zozma on August 13, 2008, 09:36:54 pm
Post by: Zozma on August 13, 2008, 09:36:54 pm
yep, no one is able to edit the eventchr.bin images yet...
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Post by: LastingDawn on August 14, 2008, 12:14:20 am
Post by: LastingDawn on August 14, 2008, 12:14:20 am
Thanks to Cyberblade and Zodiac, that is no longer true! These are unique animations belonging to Helmetless Gafgarion!
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n198/LastingDawn/SCUS_94221_14082008_000312_0778.png)
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n198/LastingDawn/SCUS_94221_14082008_000256_0168.png)
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n198/LastingDawn/SCUS_94221_14082008_000251_0418.png)
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n198/LastingDawn/SCUS_94221_14082008_000237_0730.png)
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n198/LastingDawn/SCUS_94221_13082008_142650_0615.png)
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n198/LastingDawn/SCUS_94221_14082008_000312_0778.png)
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n198/LastingDawn/SCUS_94221_14082008_000256_0168.png)
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n198/LastingDawn/SCUS_94221_14082008_000251_0418.png)
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n198/LastingDawn/SCUS_94221_14082008_000237_0730.png)
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n198/LastingDawn/SCUS_94221_13082008_142650_0615.png)
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Post by: Archael on August 14, 2008, 12:16:01 am
Post by: Archael on August 14, 2008, 12:16:01 am
PWNED.
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Post by: Vanya on August 14, 2008, 12:17:44 am
Post by: Vanya on August 14, 2008, 12:17:44 am
But, how? What would we have to do. From what I understand this requires a special program or something to fully extract the file and then re-insert it, no? If I'm mistaken please explain! 
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Post by: Archael on August 14, 2008, 12:18:42 am
Post by: Archael on August 14, 2008, 12:18:42 am
Quote from: "Vanya"But, how? What would we have to do. From what I understand this requires a special program or something to fully extract the file and then re-insert it, no? If I'm mistaken please explain! :D
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Post by: Cyberblade on August 14, 2008, 12:19:11 am
Post by: Cyberblade on August 14, 2008, 12:19:11 am
this calls for Millions of gil being throw in the air *throws gil in the air* 
and dont forget i made the poses >_>
and dont forget i made the poses >_>
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Post by: LastingDawn on August 14, 2008, 12:19:50 am
Post by: LastingDawn on August 14, 2008, 12:19:50 am
Zodiac (the true mastermind) will be writing up a tutorial for it very soon.
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Post by: Vanya on August 14, 2008, 12:22:24 am
Post by: Vanya on August 14, 2008, 12:22:24 am
Awesome! Seeing Rad turn into a discolored Squire at the beginning of the game has been nagging at me for weeks! =)
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Post by: Zozma on August 14, 2008, 12:25:42 am
Post by: Zozma on August 14, 2008, 12:25:42 am
thats great, being able to do this stuff will be important for changing story
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Post by: Katagi on August 14, 2008, 12:29:36 am
Post by: Katagi on August 14, 2008, 12:29:36 am
>_> first topic/post I make and something new is discovered! ^_^.
So does this mean we'll get to have new animations also?
So does this mean we'll get to have new animations also?
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Post by: LastingDawn on August 14, 2008, 12:30:39 am
Post by: LastingDawn on August 14, 2008, 12:30:39 am
That it most certainly will. Of course someone would need to make these new animations, they just won't be there from scratch.
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Post by: Zozma on August 14, 2008, 12:31:46 am
Post by: Zozma on August 14, 2008, 12:31:46 am
once a simple extraction/insertion method is available for this eventchr.bin file anyone should be able to do it...
man i've been waiting for this for so long there have been characters that i want to swap out but wouldnt simply because of this file.
oh ill enjoy this, i can animate any of these humans
man i've been waiting for this for so long there have been characters that i want to swap out but wouldnt simply because of this file.
oh ill enjoy this, i can animate any of these humans
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Post by: Archael on August 14, 2008, 12:34:45 am
Post by: Archael on August 14, 2008, 12:34:45 am
Quote from: "Katagi"So does this mean we'll get to have new animations also?
Yes.
I also feel obligated to add that this ALSO means that LD has wtfpwned the entire website.
I mean, c'mon... look at Gaffy.
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Post by: LastingDawn on August 14, 2008, 12:35:54 am
Post by: LastingDawn on August 14, 2008, 12:35:54 am
Please, keep in mind, I am just the producer, Cyberblade and Zodiac are the true masterminds behind it. If anyone deserves thanks it is their hard work, I just sat back, and tried the prescribed method.
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Post by: Xifanie on August 14, 2008, 01:41:24 am
Post by: Xifanie on August 14, 2008, 01:41:24 am
I'll make a tutorial tommorow, just remind me someone.
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Post by: Xifanie on August 14, 2008, 04:16:59 pm
Post by: Xifanie on August 14, 2008, 04:16:59 pm
And here goes the tutorial (http://www.ffhacktics.com/psx/tutorials.php?id=6)
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Post by: Katagi on August 14, 2008, 04:47:49 pm
Post by: Katagi on August 14, 2008, 04:47:49 pm
All though I'm lacking in hex editing skills from before, I'll try these with red mage/Beowulf Cat robe whitemage/Reis and Firion/Ramza.
Thanks for the Tutorial ^_^.
Thanks for the Tutorial ^_^.
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Post by: Vanya on August 14, 2008, 05:12:14 pm
Post by: Vanya on August 14, 2008, 05:12:14 pm
Pure pwnage! =)
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Post by: Zozma on August 14, 2008, 05:19:43 pm
Post by: Zozma on August 14, 2008, 05:19:43 pm
i hope someday theres a program for this too, but this will be sweet if i can figure it out based off the tutorial,
thanks Zodiac
lol you could now make anyone the main character!
thanks Zodiac
lol you could now make anyone the main character!
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Post by: Cyberblade on August 14, 2008, 05:22:29 pm
Post by: Cyberblade on August 14, 2008, 05:22:29 pm
I plan on making a female one =o ands just redoing it so there is a ffemale main charaachter patch =D
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Post by: Zozma on August 14, 2008, 05:24:26 pm
Post by: Zozma on August 14, 2008, 05:24:26 pm
guess what, with this, if you REALLY wanted to
you could free up two more sprites by making ramza keep the same sprite thruought the game, this wasn't possible before, but now that eventchr is editable it can be done.
you could free up two more sprites by making ramza keep the same sprite thruought the game, this wasn't possible before, but now that eventchr is editable it can be done.
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Post by: Vanya on August 14, 2008, 05:28:09 pm
Post by: Vanya on August 14, 2008, 05:28:09 pm
Damn. I hadn't thought of that. But, then you'd have to restrict him to just one skill set for the whole game? I might use this method to get 1 extra sprite, not 2.
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Post by: Zozma on August 14, 2008, 05:33:25 pm
Post by: Zozma on August 14, 2008, 05:33:25 pm
yes but your extra skills could be blue magic that could only be learned in certain story battles, thus restricting the skillset untill say chapter 3 or 4
or whatever you wish.
you could even make a copy of knight sword skill that ramza could learn blue mage style, thus making that old dark knight rumor half true lol...
see i think ramza looks the best in chapter 2 and 3 so im gonna use that one. and just call his job Mercenary from the start, unless i can find a way to link 3 different jobs to that same sprite.
(i erased the temple knight skillset and assigned the oracle effects to them so that when i put in my custom swordskills in those files i have new ones like venom blade. and then the effects i assign the oracle spells just look like the temple knights skills instead once i reassign the effects there)
so there ya go, i have blue magic sworskills and you wont even know the difference, itll just be available when i assign modded versions of the dark sword skills to enemy gaffy in the last fight with him or whatever, wherever i choose)
or whatever you wish.
you could even make a copy of knight sword skill that ramza could learn blue mage style, thus making that old dark knight rumor half true lol...
see i think ramza looks the best in chapter 2 and 3 so im gonna use that one. and just call his job Mercenary from the start, unless i can find a way to link 3 different jobs to that same sprite.
(i erased the temple knight skillset and assigned the oracle effects to them so that when i put in my custom swordskills in those files i have new ones like venom blade. and then the effects i assign the oracle spells just look like the temple knights skills instead once i reassign the effects there)
so there ya go, i have blue magic sworskills and you wont even know the difference, itll just be available when i assign modded versions of the dark sword skills to enemy gaffy in the last fight with him or whatever, wherever i choose)
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Post by: Katagi on August 14, 2008, 06:01:55 pm
Post by: Katagi on August 14, 2008, 06:01:55 pm
Basically I would need to Edit a sprite my self in a paint program to get one sprite to have the story animations of Ramza right?
I'm still working on the Firion sprite and some others on WoTL which is freezing my psp...For any one who has WoTL, must all sprites be 44KB?
I'm still working on the Firion sprite and some others on WoTL which is freezing my psp...For any one who has WoTL, must all sprites be 44KB?
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Post by: Zozma on August 14, 2008, 07:29:22 pm
Post by: Zozma on August 14, 2008, 07:29:22 pm
maybe ill make algus get kidnapped instead of teta and then make her shoot him...... mwahahaha.....
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Post by: Cyberblade on August 14, 2008, 07:56:32 pm
Post by: Cyberblade on August 14, 2008, 07:56:32 pm
DO IT
DO IT
DO IT
DO IT
DO IT
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Post by: Zozma on August 14, 2008, 08:06:17 pm
Post by: Zozma on August 14, 2008, 08:06:17 pm
wait no... i wont make her shoot him, cause that would mean delita would fight and kill her, ill make it so she gives a commoner the order to shoot and then walks off (instead of zalbag) thus freeing her up to reappear later.
still if algus is the one kidnapped then where is the motive to go save him... hmm ill have to think it over lol..
still if algus is the one kidnapped then where is the motive to go save him... hmm ill have to think it over lol..
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Post by: SentinalBlade on August 14, 2008, 09:13:24 pm
Post by: SentinalBlade on August 14, 2008, 09:13:24 pm
no motive... i smell a half-assed plot twist :O
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Post by: Zozma on August 14, 2008, 09:20:03 pm
Post by: Zozma on August 14, 2008, 09:20:03 pm
lol it would totally screw with the story if she doesn't take the arrow right there.... but it would be funny
Alma: "I'm okay... but they got Algus!"
Zalbag: "I know"
Dycedarg: "Don't worry, I would never abandon Algus."
Teta: Go on! Do it!
Squire: Yes sir!!
Delita: "Squire, you murdered Algus! Ill kil you i swear it!"
Alma: "I'm okay... but they got Algus!"
Zalbag: "I know"
Dycedarg: "Don't worry, I would never abandon Algus."
Teta: Go on! Do it!
Squire: Yes sir!!
Delita: "Squire, you murdered Algus! Ill kil you i swear it!"
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Post by: SentinalBlade on August 14, 2008, 09:23:46 pm
Post by: SentinalBlade on August 14, 2008, 09:23:46 pm
rofl nice...parody video much?
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Post by: Zozma on August 14, 2008, 09:27:54 pm
Post by: Zozma on August 14, 2008, 09:27:54 pm
lol i think i will
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Post by: Zozma on August 15, 2008, 12:31:57 am
Post by: Zozma on August 15, 2008, 12:31:57 am
sigh, okay so everything is jacked up.... the tutorial gives me all the info i need i guess, but i tested it on the princess frames and its all just empty space (well no ovelia is switching from a spellcast frame to a dead frame as the screen rotates in the intro lol....
wikkid! i was off by two bytes nevermind! but the color palette?
wikkid! i was off by two bytes nevermind! but the color palette?
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Post by: Katagi on August 15, 2008, 12:58:50 am
Post by: Katagi on August 15, 2008, 12:58:50 am
I just noticed something...I'm working mainly with the PSP version of FFT, since the psx version plays out most of the scenes while the psp one has cg scenes. Would the psp version miss some of the story animations?
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Post by: LastingDawn on August 15, 2008, 01:28:41 am
Post by: LastingDawn on August 15, 2008, 01:28:41 am
Quote from: "Zozma"lol it would totally screw with the story if she doesn't take the arrow right there.... but it would be funny
Alma: "I'm okay... but they got Algus!"
Zalbag: "I know"
Dycedarg: "Don't worry, I would never abandon Algus."
Teta: Go on! Do it!
Squire: Yes sir!!
Delita: "Squire, you murdered Algus! Ill kil you i swear it!"
Dycedarg: "I'd never abandon Algus he's like a... sister...? to me?
Teta: "I'd never send troops to save you nobles!"
Golagros: "Think, we have a hostage, not only a hostage but a Beoulve!"
Wiegraf: "Strange... I can't recall a fourth son of Beoulve..."
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Post by: Zozma on August 15, 2008, 03:15:13 am
Post by: Zozma on August 15, 2008, 03:15:13 am
wikkid! i finally got the hang of this check it out!
http://i140.photobucket.com/player.swf? ... adtest.flv (http://i140.photobucket.com/player.swf?file=http://vid140.photobucket.com/albums/r9/zozma1/radtest.flv)
mwahaha... so now that i can do this.... it'll go like this
Alma: I'm fine but Algus Isn't!
Zalbag: I know...
Dycedarg: Don't worry, I would never abandon Algus.. hes like a... sister to me?
Teta: Never beleive in never big brother...
Delita: What did you say!? Algus is our friend!
Teta: I'm saying i won't send troops to save a petty fencer.
*Delita punches his sister, says "I trust Ramza" and walks off*
*Ramza tells Teta to get lost, that was a very rude thing to say to your own brother bla bla bla*
*Teta walks off calling Ramza a spoiled rotten boy*
[Ft Zeakdon]
Golgaros: And there's tons of powder inside so don't even think about bla bla bla...
Teta: The Hokuten will never be threatened by you!
Teta: Go on! Do it! *walks off (for later story useage*
generic: Yes sir! *shoots algus out of the way, Then shoots golgaros*
such a sweet little girl that Teta is....
woo this would also clear Zalbag of being responsible for the death of ... well algus in this case... poor algus, he drew the short end of the stick somehow, even being rewritten as an innocent, good guy he still bites the big one on the very same battlefield...
http://i140.photobucket.com/player.swf? ... adtest.flv (http://i140.photobucket.com/player.swf?file=http://vid140.photobucket.com/albums/r9/zozma1/radtest.flv)
mwahaha... so now that i can do this.... it'll go like this
Alma: I'm fine but Algus Isn't!
Zalbag: I know...
Dycedarg: Don't worry, I would never abandon Algus.. hes like a... sister to me?
Teta: Never beleive in never big brother...
Delita: What did you say!? Algus is our friend!
Teta: I'm saying i won't send troops to save a petty fencer.
*Delita punches his sister, says "I trust Ramza" and walks off*
*Ramza tells Teta to get lost, that was a very rude thing to say to your own brother bla bla bla*
*Teta walks off calling Ramza a spoiled rotten boy*
[Ft Zeakdon]
Golgaros: And there's tons of powder inside so don't even think about bla bla bla...
Teta: The Hokuten will never be threatened by you!
Teta: Go on! Do it! *walks off (for later story useage*
generic: Yes sir! *shoots algus out of the way, Then shoots golgaros*
such a sweet little girl that Teta is....
woo this would also clear Zalbag of being responsible for the death of ... well algus in this case... poor algus, he drew the short end of the stick somehow, even being rewritten as an innocent, good guy he still bites the big one on the very same battlefield...