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Modding => Spriting => Topic started by: Diil Fenrir on June 30, 2011, 05:35:55 pm

Title: Fallen Angel
Post by: Diil Fenrir on June 30, 2011, 05:35:55 pm
Well, with the help of Kagebunji and Mirc, I made this:

(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/2769/angelsh.png)

The plan is to make a new demon more similar to Antima, and a sexier version o the Ultima demon (Celia and Lede are ultima demon, so is quite strange that their true form isn't more girlish)

Here the work done.

(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/760/provademone.png)

Ok, I'd like to have some advice and idea, what head I must use? Should i replace the Antima dual Sword?
Title: Re: Fallen Angel
Post by: Dome on June 30, 2011, 05:36:34 pm
Celia and lede true form?
This is an epic win
Title: Re: Fallen Angel
Post by: Kagebunji on June 30, 2011, 05:37:56 pm
Yes, we sat with Diil on chat for quite some time today, and wondered what to replace her sword frames with. This version doesn't have swords, so some ideas are neccesary. Brainstorm?

Quote from: Dome on June 30, 2011, 05:36:34 pm
Celia and lede true form?
This is an epic win


Indeed it is a great idea. Diil is from Italy as well, just like you Dome.
Title: Re: Fallen Angel
Post by: Cheetah on June 30, 2011, 05:42:28 pm
That red is a bit too saturated/bright. Otherwise a decent idea.
Title: Re: Fallen Angel
Post by: Diil Fenrir on June 30, 2011, 06:06:02 pm
(http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/9153/angelofdispair.png)

New Version (Hair by Kagebunji)

For the Red, is really bright, but I don't dislike, maybe because the pics is really dark.

Make that darker is not a problem anyway.

(http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/9153/angelofdispair.png)

What about the new wing?  
Title: Re: Fallen Angel
Post by: Wasabi on June 30, 2011, 06:13:45 pm
Regarding weapons, Diil had in mind a scythe, while I mentioned in irc a short pike.

What has me a little worried is that the original Altima sprite has her dual-wielding two short swords. Not sure if a single melee weapon can transmit well depending on the frames, but it's worth a shot imo.
Title: Re: Fallen Angel
Post by: Celdia on June 30, 2011, 08:58:04 pm
I can only express my reaction to this in imagery.

(http://deltax20a.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/funny-pictures-cat-is-amazed.jpg)

Title: Re: Fallen Angel
Post by: Zozma on June 30, 2011, 09:55:51 pm
it looks great, but its red's are oversaturated
Title: Re: Fallen Angel
Post by: CONMAN on June 30, 2011, 09:58:15 pm
Does it have to be a real weapon? It could be swirling energy and then a bolt of energy.  It might seeam real tough, but i'm sure it's doable.  I just checked shishi and i think thats possible!

Granted, I think "swirling energy" could only be about the size of the sword hilts
Title: Re: Fallen Angel
Post by: GeneralStrife on June 30, 2011, 10:08:07 pm
Dude! Just gotta agree with the posts above me, looking splendid. Perhaps the unused WEP3 strange effects might work.
Title: Re: Fallen Angel
Post by: Twinees on June 30, 2011, 11:07:13 pm
The eyes and headshape that you had originally Dill was fine as it was, it looks a lot better in proportion to the body => why it was made that way in the first place (Damn it Kage :P, I will fight with you about this until you die! :D). Now knowing that, the hair may need to be changed slightly or maybe not.

I agree with everyone about the red colours, one of the colours is so close to another that it probably wouldnt make a big difference if you just replaced it altogether. But you should just make either of those reds brighter or darker.

There are little things here and there on the wings that I will address later via an edit but it looks alright atm. The fallen angel's right wing is not on the correct angle, even if the left wing changed its angle from the original, the angle it is on is too extreme. Look at the original Altima sprite for reference for the wing.

Hopefully my crits will help a bit - Twin.
Title: Re: Fallen Angel
Post by: Diil Fenrir on July 01, 2011, 06:00:29 am
Small problem, with the new wings and the horns the pics are larger than the original Antima, I'm not sure that she can fit in a Monster Template (or either in the antima type)
Title: Re: Fallen Angel
Post by: Eternal on July 01, 2011, 06:12:14 am
I'm totally using this for demon Celia/Lede when it's done.
Title: Re: Fallen Angel
Post by: Xifanie on July 01, 2011, 11:55:29 am
If it works well like Altima, I'm totally using this as well!!!

Also my suggestion for the weapons are steel rings like mint uses:
(http://images.kaneva.com/filestore4/3496341/4092130/g02.jpg)
Title: Re: Fallen Angel
Post by: RavenOfRazgriz on July 01, 2011, 01:13:11 pm
Quote from: Diil Fenrir on July 01, 2011, 06:00:29 am
Small problem, with the new wings and the horns the pics are larger than the original Antima, I'm not sure that she can fit in a Monster Template (or either in the antima type)


Honestly? I'd lose the horns anyway, she'd look far better without them.  The horns on her head just make her look kind of cluttered, personally, and will take way too much work to actually make look "right."
Title: Re: Fallen Angel
Post by: Wolfran on July 01, 2011, 02:18:28 pm
Quote from: RavenOfRazgriz on July 01, 2011, 01:13:11 pm
Honestly? I'd lose the horns anyway, she'd look far better without them.  The horns on her head just make her look kind of cluttered, personally, and will take way too much work to actually make look "right."

He's right about the horns and the wings look odd to me I think the shadowing is wrong.
Title: Re: Fallen Angel
Post by: LastingDawn on July 01, 2011, 02:40:09 pm
Eh, Celia, Lede, and Elmdor are supposed to represent "beauty is skin deep". Taking away that theme wouldn't mean much, but I wouldn't trade that up personally. Besides, do two Altima sized sprites even load?
Title: Re: Fallen Angel
Post by: Fenrir90 on July 04, 2011, 04:22:41 pm
She looks more like a Succubus honestly. For her weapon attack, how about claws?
Title: Re: Fallen Angel
Post by: Kagebunji on July 04, 2011, 04:46:51 pm
Succubus is exactly what Celia and Lede should be, haha.
Title: Re: Fallen Angel
Post by: RandMuadDib on July 04, 2011, 05:13:46 pm
Quote from: Kagebunji on July 04, 2011, 04:46:51 pm
Succubus is exactly what Celia and Lede should be, haha.
Title: Re: Fallen Angel
Post by: GeneralStrife on July 05, 2011, 04:23:23 pm
Quote from: Kagebunji on July 04, 2011, 04:46:51 pm
Succubus is exactly what Celia and Lede should be, haha.
Title: Re: Fallen Angel
Post by: Fenrir90 on July 05, 2011, 06:58:38 pm
Quote from: Kagebunji on July 04, 2011, 04:46:51 pm
Succubus is exactly what Celia and Lede should be, haha.


Aren't they both already one? ;)

By the way, I forgot to mention it in my last post. I love what you did with the sprite. The horns could be a little shorter and on a side of the head. You can always use google image to compare.