Title: FF3/6 Sabin
Post by: Kenshin72 on July 22, 2008, 08:47:15 pm
Post by: Kenshin72 on July 22, 2008, 08:47:15 pm
This is my first ever attempt at making a sprite for anything.
Is this worth polishing up and finishing or should I try from scratch?
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff58/Kenshin72/Sabin.png)
Re-Re-updated...
And In PNG just for Zodiac
Is this worth polishing up and finishing or should I try from scratch?
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff58/Kenshin72/Sabin.png)
Re-Re-updated...
And In PNG just for Zodiac
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Post by: Vanya on July 22, 2008, 08:52:53 pm
Post by: Vanya on July 22, 2008, 08:52:53 pm
That's a great start! Please, by all means, keep working on it!
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Post by: Cheetah on July 22, 2008, 09:36:59 pm
Post by: Cheetah on July 22, 2008, 09:36:59 pm
The trick here is to keep on moving forward on the basic views, get criticism and input, and don't be afraid to rework an angle that you already considered "done". There is always room for improvement.
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Post by: Kenshin72 on July 22, 2008, 09:44:19 pm
Post by: Kenshin72 on July 22, 2008, 09:44:19 pm
The picture is updated. Has the green belt and the brown boots.
I'm not sure I like the belt though.
I'm not sure I like the belt though.
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Post by: Zozma on July 22, 2008, 09:53:18 pm
Post by: Zozma on July 22, 2008, 09:53:18 pm
its off to a fine start, keep in mind that dark edges should only be used for shadow effects or separation between colors. take away some of the dark edges around the head
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Post by: Xifanie on July 22, 2008, 10:48:20 pm
Post by: Xifanie on July 22, 2008, 10:48:20 pm
To be quite frank, it doesn't look awesome. It will need a lot of correction but I don't think you should start over. Hey but don't worry, you'll get the hang of it soon enough. It took me like 7 versions to make my avatar, plus a little touch up from Zozma.
The hair's shading needs a lot of work, and don't use colors to distant unless you want to show reflection (white).
Better get this right right now unless you want all your sprite sheet to look mid-quality.
Just like I did with my Male Blue mage >_>'
Actually, it really did look terrible... There wasn't a custom sprites section back then for feedback. :O
Well maybe I failed with that one, but I gained experience from it and that's what's important. Making mistakes and correcting them is the best way to get better.
Only use black and very dark for shadows, but for lighter colors just use a darker tone of the color.
Oh and please post in png next time, I'm having a hard time seeing some pixels.
The hair's shading needs a lot of work, and don't use colors to distant unless you want to show reflection (white).
Better get this right right now unless you want all your sprite sheet to look mid-quality.
Just like I did with my Male Blue mage >_>'
Actually, it really did look terrible... There wasn't a custom sprites section back then for feedback. :O
Well maybe I failed with that one, but I gained experience from it and that's what's important. Making mistakes and correcting them is the best way to get better.
Only use black and very dark for shadows, but for lighter colors just use a darker tone of the color.
Oh and please post in png next time, I'm having a hard time seeing some pixels.
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Post by: Asmo X on July 22, 2008, 11:24:34 pm
Post by: Asmo X on July 22, 2008, 11:24:34 pm
Yeah the lack of shading makes this look very flat. The dark outline has seriously got to go.
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Post by: Kenshin72 on July 22, 2008, 11:55:55 pm
Post by: Kenshin72 on July 22, 2008, 11:55:55 pm
@ Zodiac, be as frank as you want. Any criticism helps. I redid the sprite.
BTW I didn't realize it was. Sorry!
Spritesheet is now up.
Hopefully it looks better!
BTW I didn't realize it was. Sorry!
Spritesheet is now up.
Hopefully it looks better!
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Post by: Xifanie on July 23, 2008, 07:32:57 am
Post by: Xifanie on July 23, 2008, 07:32:57 am
Now is probably the hardest part, removing that thing around his head (I seriously can't find any translation in English from French), working hair there instead and adding a little tail. ;o
After that your Sabin should look way less monkish, even though he is monkish to start with. >_>'
Well you get my point.
And thanks for PNG, you made my day!
After that your Sabin should look way less monkish, even though he is monkish to start with. >_>'
Well you get my point.
And thanks for PNG, you made my day!
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Post by: Vanya on July 23, 2008, 10:36:43 am
Post by: Vanya on July 23, 2008, 10:36:43 am
*off topic*
Headband! =)
Quote from: "Zodiac"(I seriously can't find any translation in English from French)
Headband! =)
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Post by: Kenshin72 on July 23, 2008, 01:56:59 pm
Post by: Kenshin72 on July 23, 2008, 01:56:59 pm
My ShiShi isn't working right.
The monk is type 1 right?
No matter what type I set ShiShi doesn't display the body in most of the previews. Is this what it always did?
The monk is type 1 right?
No matter what type I set ShiShi doesn't display the body in most of the previews. Is this what it always did?
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Post by: Cyberblade on July 23, 2008, 03:02:11 pm
Post by: Cyberblade on July 23, 2008, 03:02:11 pm
is your background set to transparent in you .BMP? if not you might have the selections overlapping
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Post by: Kenshin72 on July 23, 2008, 04:02:51 pm
Post by: Kenshin72 on July 23, 2008, 04:02:51 pm
Yeah, I set the background to green so I could see the edges better. Though it would be like RPG Maker 2003 where the first color is always transperant.
Now he has a shirt and a ponytail! Woot! In-game though his head looks funky. Should I remove some of that black leftover from the headband?
Any tips for making a portrait? I was going to use Ramza's ponytail for it. I just need advice for removing the portrait's headband.
Now he has a shirt and a ponytail! Woot! In-game though his head looks funky. Should I remove some of that black leftover from the headband?
Any tips for making a portrait? I was going to use Ramza's ponytail for it. I just need advice for removing the portrait's headband.
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Post by: Zozma on July 23, 2008, 04:32:27 pm
Post by: Zozma on July 23, 2008, 04:32:27 pm
use a portrait with a stronger jawline like Balbanes
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Post by: Kenshin72 on July 23, 2008, 05:41:38 pm
Post by: Kenshin72 on July 23, 2008, 05:41:38 pm
Well my goal was to make someone you would drink protein shakes with and be scared of... but...
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff58/Kenshin72/untitled.png)
I got someone you drink appletinis with and ... go see imagitainment shows with....
Suggestions to man-ify him? I think I should make the purple darker for sure!
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff58/Kenshin72/untitled.png)
I got someone you drink appletinis with and ... go see imagitainment shows with....
Suggestions to man-ify him? I think I should make the purple darker for sure!
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Post by: Zozma on July 23, 2008, 06:00:17 pm
Post by: Zozma on July 23, 2008, 06:00:17 pm
i would lean more towards dark blue or indigo if you must.. but i always thought his shirt was more navy than purple...
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Post by: Xifanie on July 23, 2008, 07:55:15 pm
Post by: Xifanie on July 23, 2008, 07:55:15 pm
I have 3 words to say:
I am LOL, like really LOL.
For the sprite I said restarting was not necessary, but for that portrait, it is.
I am LOL, like really LOL.
For the sprite I said restarting was not necessary, but for that portrait, it is.
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Post by: Kenshin72 on July 23, 2008, 08:20:54 pm
Post by: Kenshin72 on July 23, 2008, 08:20:54 pm
Man, that portrait cracks me up.
I'm working on it guys.
Is the spritesheet okay though?
I'm working on it guys.
Is the spritesheet okay though?
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Post by: Xifanie on July 23, 2008, 08:21:25 pm
Post by: Xifanie on July 23, 2008, 08:21:25 pm
Okay, look you mispositioned 80% of the hair tails. Sabin facing back, and in critical are good, but the rest are all off by 2-3 pixels. the tail doesn't start on the upper part of the head, but lower.
Also, try making it shorter when the tail is in the back compared to the rest of the body; that is, when Sabin is facing you. It doesn't look right... the distance is different but the size is the same.
And if you check the singing ones, it's just way too long.
Nice job for removing the headband though.
You seem to lack some 3D perception, I don't know if it's normal or not, but I know that everyone but me sucked in our drawing class (not THAT kind of drawing class, I'm a machinist, it means drawing 2D and 3D plans for pieces).
Also, try making it shorter when the tail is in the back compared to the rest of the body; that is, when Sabin is facing you. It doesn't look right... the distance is different but the size is the same.
And if you check the singing ones, it's just way too long.
Nice job for removing the headband though.
You seem to lack some 3D perception, I don't know if it's normal or not, but I know that everyone but me sucked in our drawing class (not THAT kind of drawing class, I'm a machinist, it means drawing 2D and 3D plans for pieces).
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Post by: Sen on July 23, 2008, 09:12:53 pm
Post by: Sen on July 23, 2008, 09:12:53 pm
As what I've seen some palletes aren't still changed like those browns on the pants and the navy blues on the head and clothes just change it more closer to other palletes.
and also I've compaired it to a Ramza sprite the hair tails it's exactly the same place where Ramza's hair tail is placed on the head.
and also I've compaired it to a Ramza sprite the hair tails it's exactly the same place where Ramza's hair tail is placed on the head.
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Post by: Xifanie on July 23, 2008, 10:10:24 pm
Post by: Xifanie on July 23, 2008, 10:10:24 pm
Not quite, I just checked myself and if you check where the tail starts, it aligns with the middle of ramza's face. Whoever for this Sabin sprite, for most of the body parts, it aligns with the top of the face, hence the 2-3 pixels I mentioned.
I stacked perfectly both sprites and there is definitely a noticeable difference.
It's not like it's the hardest task in the world though, just select and move down 2-3 pixels.
I stacked perfectly both sprites and there is definitely a noticeable difference.
It's not like it's the hardest task in the world though, just select and move down 2-3 pixels.
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Post by: Sen on July 23, 2008, 10:25:35 pm
Post by: Sen on July 23, 2008, 10:25:35 pm
I Wanna help you with your portrait because it seems maybe hard for you to do so I did this for you.
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Post by: Kenshin72 on July 24, 2008, 12:33:02 am
Post by: Kenshin72 on July 24, 2008, 12:33:02 am
Looks sexy Sen. I'll use it for now. I'm still going practice because that's how you get better!
How are you guys checking the ponytail? You can overlay pics or something?
I'm just curious.
How are you guys checking the ponytail? You can overlay pics or something?
I'm just curious.
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Post by: Xifanie on July 28, 2008, 11:22:23 am
Post by: Xifanie on July 28, 2008, 11:22:23 am
Quote from: "Kenshin72"Looks sexy Sen. I'll use it for now. I'm still going practice because that's how you get better!I just opened shishi, put it right over my browser and quickly Alt-Tab to see the differences.
How are you guys checking the ponytail? You can overlay pics or something?
I'm just curious.
Anyway how is this project going?
You don't have to bother making the portrait now, as it's very different than the rest of the sprite.
And don't give up; I'd be making sprites if it wasn't of the loads of other stuff I have to do for FFH.
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Post by: Kenshin72 on July 28, 2008, 12:10:15 pm
Post by: Kenshin72 on July 28, 2008, 12:10:15 pm
Well I haven't posted anything new since I just got back from a trip last night. Went to check out a college I might go to.
I'm still working on him. I will finish him.
I'm still working on him. I will finish him.
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Post by: CidIII on July 28, 2008, 04:27:32 pm
Post by: CidIII on July 28, 2008, 04:27:32 pm
Next you should make Kefka 
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Post by: Zozma on July 29, 2008, 01:57:40 am
Post by: Zozma on July 29, 2008, 01:57:40 am
since were talking about ff6 this is my pre-ff6 sprite work. do u recognize him from an even older ff game? (the person i replaced kefka with)
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Post by: orangejulius56 on July 29, 2008, 04:18:12 am
Post by: orangejulius56 on July 29, 2008, 04:18:12 am
Quote from: "Zozma"since were talking about ff6 this is my pre-ff6 sprite work. do u recognize him from an even older ff game? (the person i replaced kefka with)
YOU SPOONY BARD!
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Post by: Kenshin72 on July 29, 2008, 06:43:12 am
Post by: Kenshin72 on July 29, 2008, 06:43:12 am
Quote from: "orangejulius56"Quote from: "Zozma"since were talking about ff6 this is my pre-ff6 sprite work. do u recognize him from an even older ff game? (the person i replaced kefka with)
YOU SPOONY BARD!
EDWARD!!!!
Always disliked him though.
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Post by: Zozma on July 29, 2008, 06:51:43 am
Post by: Zozma on July 29, 2008, 06:51:43 am
haha, but he was super beefed up in this fight, in the desert scene where u hit kefka and he runs? well this one didn't run had super hp, and equipped with a muscle belt, and black belt and would counter attack with whatever you used on him. if shadow threw a star, he threw one right back, and if sabin blitzed him he blitzed too.. and if you dont hit him fast enough he uses lvl 3 spells. (keep in mind that your characters are from lvl 10 to 15 at this point.)
his gf Anna was a playable character. and Tellah was the emperor.
his gf Anna was a playable character. and Tellah was the emperor.
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Post by: orangejulius56 on July 29, 2008, 06:54:32 am
Post by: orangejulius56 on July 29, 2008, 06:54:32 am
Quote from: "Zozma"haha, but he was super beefed up in this fight, in the desert scene where u hit kefka and he runs? well this one didn't run had super hp, and equipped with a muscle belt, and black belt and would counter attack with whatever you used on him. if shadow threw a star, he threw one right back, and if sabin blitzed him he blitzed too.. and if you dont hit him fast enough he uses lvl 3 spells. (keep in mind that your characters are from lvl 10 to 15 at this point.)
his gf Anna was a playable character. and Tellah was the emperor.
You edited this? Is there any way I could get my hands on that ROM?
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Post by: Zozma on July 29, 2008, 07:06:17 am
Post by: Zozma on July 29, 2008, 07:06:17 am
well its kind of screwy i just sorta goofed off and made sprites and stuff, i didn't finish..
well these sprites are mostly done
well these sprites are mostly done
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Post by: orangejulius56 on July 29, 2008, 07:15:00 am
Post by: orangejulius56 on July 29, 2008, 07:15:00 am
Is that a playable Ziegfried I see? Epic.
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Post by: LastingDawn on July 29, 2008, 01:36:48 pm
Post by: LastingDawn on July 29, 2008, 01:36:48 pm
Ah, Edward, Tellah, and Anna, excellent to see that family has a fanbase! Tellah as the Emperorr automatically wins any award ever to be given... ever... in any case, that means Tellah kills Edward on the Floating Continenent? With his extremely over powered Break spell?
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Post by: Vanya on July 29, 2008, 02:18:29 pm
Post by: Vanya on July 29, 2008, 02:18:29 pm
Beatrix looks awesome! =)
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Post by: Zozma on July 29, 2008, 03:16:56 pm
Post by: Zozma on July 29, 2008, 03:16:56 pm
thats rydia there in the middle top..
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Post by: Kuraudo Sutoraifu on July 29, 2008, 05:00:26 pm
Post by: Kuraudo Sutoraifu on July 29, 2008, 05:00:26 pm
Ooh, Zeigfried, I always wanted to do a full sprite of him for RM2K.
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Post by: Kenshin72 on July 29, 2008, 05:31:46 pm
Post by: Kenshin72 on July 29, 2008, 05:31:46 pm
Quote from: "Kuraudo Sutoraifu"Ooh, Zeigfried, I always wanted to do a full sprite of him for RM2K.
Funny you talk about RM2k. I'm making and RM2k3 game right now!
About the Sabin sprite. I switched his shirt color with the color Sen used in the portrait. It makes him look manlier!
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Post by: Zozma on August 02, 2008, 08:36:11 pm
Post by: Zozma on August 02, 2008, 08:36:11 pm
the story, i really twisted it up (this is just one patch i had made)
Daryl is alive and the pilot of the airship (Setzer died instead so she's the gambler)
Rachel is alive and is the traitor general instead of Celes
Celes is alive but instead of Kefka she was cid's first magitek experiment thus making her the "Kefka" of the story. (i changed her sprite to have the evil eyes lol)
General Leo is the King of Figaro, has shock and all
Vargas Replaced shadow (because clyde is in the story thus eleminating shadow as a character)
Clyde replaced Locke
Zigfried replaced Cyan
the purple haired character replaced ultros and she looks like Barbarela from Bahamut Lagoon
Sabin is a boss at Zozo when you are trying to find Terra
Rydia is a boss in the magitec factory i replaced the boss called #34 with her.
Locke was the Emperor (With Celes being in Kefka's place its perfect)
Strago was turned into Edward
and relm was turned into Anna
Gau was turned into Katerin (that young girl from molbiz)
Mog got to stay mog... awww
Daryl is alive and the pilot of the airship (Setzer died instead so she's the gambler)
Rachel is alive and is the traitor general instead of Celes
Celes is alive but instead of Kefka she was cid's first magitek experiment thus making her the "Kefka" of the story. (i changed her sprite to have the evil eyes lol)
General Leo is the King of Figaro, has shock and all
Vargas Replaced shadow (because clyde is in the story thus eleminating shadow as a character)
Clyde replaced Locke
Zigfried replaced Cyan
the purple haired character replaced ultros and she looks like Barbarela from Bahamut Lagoon
Sabin is a boss at Zozo when you are trying to find Terra
Rydia is a boss in the magitec factory i replaced the boss called #34 with her.
Locke was the Emperor (With Celes being in Kefka's place its perfect)
Strago was turned into Edward
and relm was turned into Anna
Gau was turned into Katerin (that young girl from molbiz)
Mog got to stay mog... awww