Final Fantasy Hacktics

Modding => Help! => Topic started by: Amici on April 24, 2010, 01:32:44 pm

Title: Need help with FFTactext and 1.3 easytype:complete
Post by: Amici on April 24, 2010, 01:32:44 pm
I'm having a problem with trying to edit text with my patched ISO. So basically, here's what I did:

1. Get my clean ISO (BIN/CUE format)
2. Download this patch: FFT:1.3Completeeasytype from this forum (http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=3952)
3. Open the ISO using the 457 FFTactext.
4. Edit job names, skillset names, and their corresponding descriptions in Quicktext mode. (I wanted to rename Ch4 Ramza to Knight Gallant, or Heretic if the former is too long).

Basically, the problem is I always get an error, something to do with DTE and WLDHELP.LZW. It patches smoothly for the first files, then seemingly hangs on WLDHELP.LZW, before failing with "DTE for WLDHELP.LZW failed. The ISO has not been modified."

It's been a very frustrating past few hours for me and I can't get it to work. Is there a solution to this or I'm screwed? I've done extensive searching in the forums and can't seem to find a solution...I found in one of the threads here (I forgot where) that editing for text seems to work for an 'unreleased' version of TacText. Where do you suppose I can get that? Or maybe is there a way to patch 1.3easytype first, then patch a Tactext (.ffttext) file in?

Any help would be appreciated =) Thanks!  :lol:

My master plan is actually to play 1.3easy type with FFT:C, then edit Ramza's Ch4 job so he'll have additional skills, possible Zalbag's skills, so he'll be a bit more comparable to the later characters (would also be using a custom sprite).
Title: Re: Need help with FFTactext and 1.3 easytype:complete
Post by: VampragonLord on April 24, 2010, 04:46:46 pm
you patched multiple times.... >.<
save the new text edit as its own seperate thing, then open that up then apply it to the iso....
Title: Re: Need help with FFTactext and 1.3 easytype:complete
Post by: philsov on April 24, 2010, 06:31:03 pm
easytype complete was made with a version of tactext not readily available.  To this end, personal text edits with the patch aren't possible.

But it should be compatible with shishi and fftpatcher if you want to do those sorts of tweaks.
Title: Re: Need help with FFTactext and 1.3 easytype:complete
Post by: Amici on April 24, 2010, 10:42:05 pm
Quote from: "philsov"easytype complete was made with a version of tactext not readily available.  To this end, personal text edits with the patch aren't possible.

But it should be compatible with shishi and fftpatcher if you want to do those sorts of tweaks.

Any idea where I can get that version of tactext? Or is it some exclusive insider thing?
Title: Re: Need help with FFTactext and 1.3 easytype:complete
Post by: VampragonLord on April 24, 2010, 11:49:27 pm
you need a proof of cool person to get it
Title: Re: Need help with FFTactext and 1.3 easytype:complete
Post by: Amici on April 25, 2010, 12:21:11 am
@Vamp
I'm cool enough! ;) Question though, why isn't that released yet if it fixes a critical bug like that?
Title: Re: Need help with FFTactext and 1.3 easytype:complete
Post by: VampragonLord on April 25, 2010, 12:25:58 am
Nobody can tell you, you must simply "know".
Title: Re: Need help with FFTactext and 1.3 easytype:complete
Post by: Amici on April 25, 2010, 12:30:32 am
I did a bit of googling, is this it? http://code.google.com/p/lioneditor/source/list (http://code.google.com/p/lioneditor/source/list)

How do I go about compiling the source code? Which files to download, and which software do I need?
Title: Re: Need help with FFTactext and 1.3 easytype:complete
Post by: Mari on April 25, 2010, 12:41:35 am
That is an editor for the PSP version.
Title: Re: Need help with FFTactext and 1.3 easytype:complete
Post by: Amici on April 25, 2010, 12:59:06 am
Ayt. Damn. Been searching for hours both here on the forums or googling. Is there any other way this can be done? Like maybe edit the PPF itself?
Title: Re: Need help with FFTactext and 1.3 easytype:complete
Post by: philsov on April 25, 2010, 01:02:57 am
Quote from: "Amici"Question though, why isn't that released yet if it fixes a critical bug like that?

afaik it's still in beta and was used experimentally for FFT:C, which in turn got used in the combination patch.  It's not really a bug that needs to be addressed, as the newer version will fix it by definition -- the problem is compatibility with the older, current version.

QuoteIs there any other way this can be done?

Aside from the obvious choices of not messing with text edits or just doing edits on normal easytype, not currently =\

editing the ppf itself... would require some advanced skills.
Title: Re: Need help with FFTactext and 1.3 easytype:complete
Post by: VampragonLord on April 25, 2010, 01:05:30 am
its like demanding to know why your ps1 wont run ps2 games.
Title: Re: Need help with FFTactext and 1.3 easytype:complete
Post by: Amici on April 25, 2010, 02:16:58 am
@philsov
Thanks for the replies. Darn, I suppose it's impossible at this point with the current tools...Is there really no available version out there that can edit it? Like an older version, or some Japanese untranslated version somewhere? I really thought I could customize text freely by this point...

@VampragonLord
That's an unfair analogy don't you think? What I'm trying to do is reasonable and not some newfangled impossible hack.
Title: Re: Need help with FFTactext and 1.3 easytype:complete
Post by: VampragonLord on April 25, 2010, 03:00:13 am
you really dont seem to get it....
the analogy is fairly accurate.
New software on old version, not going to work.
Youre asking why it isnt FORWARD compatable.
Title: Re: Need help with FFTactext and 1.3 easytype:complete
Post by: Amici on April 25, 2010, 08:35:09 am
Ayt, I suppose that's right if you put it that way...

Well, is there a way to maybe edit each text file individually?Then just use CDmage to import the file after?
Title: Re: Need help with FFTactext and 1.3 easytype:complete
Post by: philsov on April 25, 2010, 11:00:16 am
Yes, probably, but its more trouble than its worth.  For example, if you want to change Ramza "Squire" to "lulzholyswordsman" then you must do so in 6 different locations.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=700 (http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=700)

viewtopic.php?t=2220&p=45196#p45196 (http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2220&p=45196#p45196)
Title: Re: Need help with FFTactext and 1.3 easytype:complete
Post by: Mickey B on May 23, 2010, 06:02:40 am
Hey there. My friend Ian and I have been working on a really big tactics hack (PSP version) that dramatically alters the game. We've been working on it for well over a year (maybe 2?), and all that's left for us to do is change the text in the game. With the current featured version of hactexts thats impossible. Is there anyway I could get my hands on the better version of hactexts you guys were mentioning? I would be eternally grateful, and Ian would probably crap himself (we have been waiting on an update for a very very long time).

Edit: When I said hacktexts I meant tactexts. lol
Title: Re: Need help with FFTactext and 1.3 easytype:complete
Post by: Nashidaran on June 17, 2010, 08:41:50 pm
Bump.

Not sure if this is the version that you were talking about: http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4984

I used that one (v 0.466/0.478) with the "save as patch, then close and re-open patch" method on FFT 1.3. So far, no problems. I'll report if anything crops up, such as, you know, the ASM hacks getting overwritten in the process.