Final Fantasy Hacktics

My first try at spriting, nothing too major, just bored and wanted to try my hand at it.
Kinda lady gaga inspired off a mixture of outfit and her white suit from the bad romance video..

Since its my first be kinda nice lol, but criticism is welcome! I only wanna get better
Based off the Female Monk sprite
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i79/killianaka/COLORO.jpg)

Ah! A new monster sprite! Wonderful!

I didn't think it was that bad for a first try.. :c

Well, its pillow shaded all over the sprite. Use Ninja for the mask.

Jimmy's right about the pillow shading. The palette's way too bright. Did you create it yourself? The hair is too blobby now; you're going to have to distribute the shading better, so it'll actually look like hair...

I won't even bother to give crits to this, I really hate Lady GaGa, and I agree with Ryu, wonderful new monster sprite! Hooray!

Quote from: "Kagebunji"I won't even bother to give crits to this, I really hate Lady GaGa, and I agree with Ryu, wonderful new monster sprite! Hooray!

Monster sprites are way too advanced and complex to do than your average human edits. Calling this a monster sprite would be equal to praising it, which isn't definetly in accordance to your sarcasm.


And for wicked1one1!11 ect.. The best way to start spriting in FFT is to edit original sprites. I'd go and suggest the front diagonal monk pose, to include x1 and x3 previews, and always use colors from other FFT sprites, never your own.

This ought to do the trick.

But Smash, do you know that monsters can be bad done as well? And I certainly didn't mean to praise it.

Badly done monsters aren't "wonderful" like you said.
Nor horrible, as for the official ones. Instead, they're probably the best done sprites in the game.


The new guy just wants to improve. If you all want to make fun of them, at least try to make it productively with a crit or two.  

I like the concept of a lady gaga sprite... D: But the guys are right. The shading isn't the greatest. And the colors are too bright.
My suggestion is never ever use just plain old white. Use soft greys and dark greys.

What I mean, is that this sprite is a "bad done monster", and my "wonderful", was a sarcasm, but I will no longer offtop here.

Quote from: "Kagebunji"What I mean, is that this sprite is a "bad done monster", and my "wonderful", was a sarcasm, but I will no longer offtop here.

See first post.  


Nobody noticed the JPEG?

Quote from: "Smash"Nobody noticed the JPEG?

I suppose we were all amazed by the sprite, and didn't noticed at all

I was simply joking about how Lady Gaga calls herself The Fame Monster. I have nothing against our new spriter.

To those that gave me criticism, thank you, I will definitely take into consideration when I retry..lol.
Also just for note, notice I never said it WAS lady gaga, only inspired from her outfit.

And to Kage, thank you for the wonderful criticism, I shall take yours into consideration the most  

Also to Ryu, sorry about that, I get it now xD

Sorry for the double post but here's my retry, hope it's MUCH better, I think so at least xD;;

I may come off as dorky but I'm kinda proud of it :p

(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i79/killianaka/RETRYATGAGADONE.png)

Still some pillows on her hair. Also, what's those brown lines on her arms?

This doesn't look like GaGa, so it is a big plus Her arms are kinda long and they aren't connected to chest properly. As Jimmy said, what is that brown around arms? And also there is a lot of brown near her right eye (our right), delete it.

Much better. The hairstyle is very cute, just fix the outlines that Kage and Jimmy mentioned (I think you just accidentally used the wrong shade on the arms).

Made her right arm a bit shorter, fixed the outline, and moved her head over to the right one pixel (Hoping to make the arms look better attached to her body), and got rid of some of the brown on her (Our) right side
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i79/killianaka/GagaFix1.png)

her head is uhm... not right you might try making look like she wasnt leaning her head back.

No no no, move the whole head left one pixel, this looks funny now.

Ok ok sorry lol, just wanted to try it out to see if it work. Same fixes as before, but moved the head back :3

(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i79/killianaka/GagaFix2.png)

Move the head one more pixel to the left, it still lokks funny. For future(remeber this, one of spriters basic things to know), if you are swapping heads or doing something with those, always look where the eyes are, if you want to implement new head, look where the eyes of the base are, and then replace it with your head, pretty simple.

One more pixel to the left should do it--right now she looks jive.

You know what it was? I fixed the smaller sprite but forgot to replace the larger one, so EDIT on my last post of the upgraded sprite.

Tried to do the mask in the first pic, it looks ok to me..but a little plain.
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i79/killianaka/GagaMask.png)

So this is Lady GaGa? I'm out...

That style of mask may not work in FFT form--it's not detailed, but the structure and shading to it may be hard to mimic on such a small scale. Good luck anyways.

I liked it better without the mask, personally. If you're going to do a mask, use the male Ninja's mask. Otherwise it looks like you were just too lazy to finish her face...
Otherwise, I like it. Even though I don't think it looks much like Gaga D: It might be a little hard to do a Gaga-esque sprite for FFT, because her outfits are so elaborate and out-there.

Who would want to to put Lady GaGa sprite to FFT patch either way?

In Wiked's defense (not that I'm exactly a Lady Gaga fan), is that what it's really about? The whole goal of the forum is to help spriters improve, yes? You don't exactly have to patch the sprite, but there's a bit of a niche for everyone isn't there? I mean, I've been working on the Werewolf sprite; people aren't exactly beating down my door for it. I've seen work on the Scholar. Great work, but nothing I'm planning on patching into my games. I don't think it matters if one happens to be a fan of the source material, but rather that we make the effort to help one another improve. Just tossing my two cents in.

I know Ton, I know, but srsly Lady Gaga is bad inspiration for sprite But hey, I'm not the one that is doing this, and I'm not the one who will use it, so thank you.

Your right Kage! Instead of doing something I like for myself and want to do, I should do something for the general populace, please the masses as they say!
Once again though, you forget that I'm not making lady gaga, that I was inspired BY HER OUTFIT. Otherwise don't you think I would just call the edit LADY GAGA?
And frankly I may be new here, but I don't appreciate you bagging on either my work or what I'm trying to go for, and personally? I couldn't give two shits if you don't like Lady Gaga, but get your head out of your ass and get over it, you don't have to post in my thread if your just going to make comments like that. :/

Anyways, back on topic.. I agree, forget the mask, looked better without..but I'm trying to think of how to alter it so it doesn't just look like a slimmed down female monk.

Sprite itself is good, but Lady GaGa and your damn inpiration sucks a lot, just what is good in her outfit? You could call this sprite mummy, and it would attract fuckin lot of people.

You know, I don't go in your thread and trash your work, or the reasoning's behind it, so I'd expect some sort of showmanship, and expect the same.
But I guess thats a little much to ask, because "OM.FG IT IS GAGA?! FUK DAT! THAT CHANGES EVERYTHING! Oh wait, its not? Ok, here, let me help you. Oh wait, it IS?! FUK DAT AGAIN!"
You big hypocrite. :/

But dood, my sprites are not a manifestation of Beyonce or Michael Jackson, so you cannot brag about that. Just why am i wasting my keyboard here, good luck with this sprite dood, I look further to your improvements(there, this was "showmanship") and just fix the arm connection to her chest (our right arm), copy/paste Rafa or something, because this connection just is wrong.

Oi...

To rework the mask, consider taking the bottom part of the male Ninja's mask (as Clem suggested earlier) and just give her a blindfold/bandanna. I also think you should go ahead and leave the female Monk's legs and head, and just use Rafa's chest and arms.

Haha, wow, never thought Kage would get into a verbal disagreement with a newby spriter, well whatever, lets try to keep our cool here...anyways, as for the sprite, I think that you might need to change pretty much just the hair (too pillow shaded), the arms (well at least the brown crap surrounding them-look at other sprites like Monk at the same time) and the face mask covering thing could be changed around a bit. Not to bad, but like everyone else, how come Lady Gaga? But whatever, do whatever you want, and not what other people want

Went in another direction just for the hell of it. See if you can guess who it is? (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i79/killianaka/JillValentine.png)

And I'll try the Rafa Chest/Arms, but I just thought she'd look interesting as a sprite is all, but the funniest part is I'm not even a big fan of her's xD

I dunno who she is, but it's a neat looking sprite (the coloring/shading is a little flat though). Keep it up.

You keep running into the same pillowshading problem.  Look it up so you know what to stop doing.  (I'd link you an explanation myself, but I don't seem to have it saved anywhere...)

Now that is a good char selection, Jill Valentine, nice! Use Rafa's arms, chest isn't needed, and pillowshading as all said.

o.o
Wasn't trying to get an argument going, lol

Do like the new direction you took the sprite, Wicked.

Do what mav said for the mask. As for the new sprite, looks good so far.

Ok, gave her Rafa arms..hope that looks better!
Also changed the shading on her hair to make it less..pillowy xD
I wanna get her fundamentals down before doing a full blown sprite sheet of her.
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i79/killianaka/JillNewHair.png)

Also I attempted at doing a portrait..and I'm not sure to continue it or scrap it.. Anyone willing to give it a shot? So far I've found making a portrait..frustrating xD

Sprite ~ Looks okay but what's wrong with her left boot? Her hair need some fixes. Her left shoulder is bit odd. Hmm...

Portrait ~ First of all, her hair colour is different from the sprite and the reference. Second, somethings odd about her face. Hmm...Oh, what happened under her ear?

With the portrait, she's missing some ear, her face is either too long or too narrow, and the hair doesn't have enough shape to match the sprite. Keep working on it. I might be able to take a shot at it, but I'm pretty busy now, so I dunno...

(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i79/killianaka/JillPortrait-1.png)
Made her face smaller, added some volume to the hair. Again, wanna get the fundamentals down before going and fixing the coloring..and frankly I'm too scared to try the shoulders/body right now @ .@;

Face is kinda round. Make it pointy bit. Also, her side hairs are messy, especially her left.

EDIT: How about this? [attachment=0:36rohx8g]Jill.png[/attachment:36rohx8g]

I like it, Jimmy.

As for your portrait, wicked, it could use a little work: her forehead is a little too long, the right part of her hair (our left) is too wide, the mouth is too small, and the ear is misshapen.

Haha. Yeah, it was a quick sketch; 5 minutes + work ^^

I think Mav was refering to Wicked1one11's portrait attempt Jimmy.

Jimmy your looks like a really good start. It seems a bit small though as a whole though.

Oh, sorry xD

Hmm...she does looks smaller than others. Oh, this is the reference that I based on.

Hah, no problem. Once you add some color to this portrait it'll be easier to tell whether it's too small, the eyes are misaligned, etc.

Tried to make a portrait outta Jimmy's quick sketch, Thanks again for that! ~<3
Also I'm so sorry guys this is taking me forever to get good at, you've all been so helpful!
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i79/killianaka/JillPortrait20.png)
Also started on the next frame of the sprite
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i79/killianaka/Starting-1.png)

Well, those blacks under her chin are suppose to be the shadows. You're not putting any shadows there but rather using that as the line for her chin. And because of that, she has square jaw now.

You're on the right track, you've just left out a lot of shadow--she needs some around her hair, cheek, chin, and neckline. Make sure to anti-alias where necessary.

How's this?
[attachment=0:1h2pq5xx]Jill1.png[/attachment:1h2pq5xx]

She looks a wee bit masculine...

She looks too angry IMO, she isn't angry type of char.

Haha. Is it? Sorry xD

D: The shading was really good jimmy, but it did make her look like a very angry, butch woman..
Added overall more shading
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i79/killianaka/Updated.png)

Mouth is too high, hair looks flat, there aren't enough shades for the skin. It's a marked improvement over the original though. Good work.

You are taking steps in the right direction Wicked, but you have a long ways to go. Keep it up!

Tried adding some brown from the hair along her face by the hairline, also some of the grey from the shading to her neck
I also gave her some more streaks
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i79/killianaka/Updated-1.png)

Also did another side of her
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i79/killianaka/Starting.png)

As for the portrait:
Yeah, you're headed to right path, but make sure it will also look like other fft ports.
For example, compare the head size of your portrait with Jill's.

As for the sprite,
I think you need another color for the skin.
(for the bones or whatever you call those)

I'll try to fix my attempt then ^^
Keep it up wicked.

Quote from: "jimmyjw88"How's this?
[attachment=0:3r3qns8d]Jill1.png[/attachment:3r3qns8d]

Not only that mav, but this looks an awful lot like Zodiac's portrait

This is lol worthy

Haha. So it sucks xD
Alright then.

Quote from: "MiKeMiTchi"As for the portrait:
Yeah, you're headed to right path, but make sure it will also look like other fft ports.
For example, compare the head size of your portrait with Jill's. :?
I could try using the lightest brown in her hair for her skin as well..

The grey in the skirt and the dark blue in the blouse are very similar and can be merged I think. If you want the two colors to be different, they're not different enough.

I also only count 12 colors:

1 - black (outline, eyes, ect)
3 - shades of brown for boots/hair
2 - skin shades
1 - grey in skirt
2 - white shades in belt
2 - blue shades in blouse
1 - Transparency (EDIT: Whoops, forgot about this one)

If there's any more colors, they're too similar to one of these and should be merged.

Anyway, great progress so far. Lot of work to go but keep at it.

Quote from: "Smash"...this looks an awful lot like Zodiac's portrait

Hah. I was thinking the same thing.

Kaijyuu's color count seems pretty accurate to me, take a look at the palette and revise accordingly.