Final Fantasy Hacktics

General => Archives => Old Project Ideas => Topic started by: Jon on December 17, 2009, 11:22:32 am

Title: Parody Dialogue-Please play and test it!
Post by: Jon on December 17, 2009, 11:22:32 am
I uhh, made this dialogue replacement in my spare time...and I would really like everyone to test it out and tell me their opinion on it. I would like to know whether I should continue this little project or not, so comments are very welcome. (Please note: this is only from Orbonne opening scene to the end of Chapter one so far, will continue making dialogue if I get enough positive replies) (Also, strong language, but I don't think anyone on here has a problem with that)

Instructions:
Open up your CDMage and open up your .img/.iso file of FFT. Click once on the Track 1 thing and open up the EVENT folder. Scroll down and find TEST.EVT, right click and import my TEST.EVT. Start a new game and hopefully enjoy ;)

Here are some screen shots!

(http://i831.photobucket.com/albums/zz233/JonsBucketPics/Final%20Fantasy%20Tactics/dying.png)
(http://i831.photobucket.com/albums/zz233/JonsBucketPics/Final%20Fantasy%20Tactics/dycedarg.png)
(http://i831.photobucket.com/albums/zz233/JonsBucketPics/Final%20Fantasy%20Tactics/training.png)
(http://i831.photobucket.com/albums/zz233/JonsBucketPics/Final%20Fantasy%20Tactics/zalbagmushrooms.png)
(http://i831.photobucket.com/albums/zz233/JonsBucketPics/Final%20Fantasy%20Tactics/ramzaorbonne.png)
Title:
Post by: philsov on December 18, 2009, 09:24:46 am
what IS it?  Did you just whip out the thesaurus and change "Tough, Blame yourself or God" to "Too bad, it's either your fault or that of your maker?"
Title:
Post by: Jon on December 18, 2009, 10:44:44 am
No! It is not a thesaurus translation, that is too easy. It is a whole different game from a new perspective. I didn't just replace the dialogue- I aim to change the whole story. Did you even try it out or what?
Title:
Post by: Asmo X on December 18, 2009, 12:17:27 pm
I dont get it. Did you change try to change the story without editing any events?
Title:
Post by: Jon on December 18, 2009, 01:42:55 pm
Yeah. It is just a new dialogue. That means what the people say. Nothing else. I just did this because I was really bored...
Title:
Post by: RavenOfRazgriz on December 18, 2009, 02:23:31 pm
Screencaps that give some kind of representation as to HOW you changed the dialogue would be nice so we have some hook that makes us want to play out this "new" story and a preview to see whether your writing is worth the time it takes to do another entire playthrough of FFT.

I'm pretty sure that including preview material of the hack in some way (captures / video) is part of the rules for this section, anyway.

RTFS.
Title:
Post by: Asmo X on December 18, 2009, 11:01:20 pm
This sounds like the stupidest thing ever
Title:
Post by: Asmo X on December 18, 2009, 11:03:59 pm
Someone post a .txt of the text changes. I want to read this masterpiece
Title:
Post by: Dominic NY18 on December 19, 2009, 12:02:18 am
Quote from: "Dominic NY18"It should go without saying that when posting a new project thread, you should actually state the main goal of the project/patch/mod, any general changes made and a few specific changes you've made to achieve that.  People will be more interested in your project if they actually know what has changed and what you're trying to do before they just jump right in. It also helps others give you more precise feedback on your project and that can help you fix any inconsistencies/errors/bugs that may arise.

TL;DR- Post a damn changelog

Saying you made changes to the script and that there's strong language isn't enough.
Title:
Post by: Jon on December 19, 2009, 01:36:58 pm
@Dominic NY18- My bad, this is really only text changes, and I don't want to post anything else because then it ruins the story...but I will if I have to.

@RavenOfRazgriz- I believe you are right, but same thing I said above to Dominic. And are you 100% sure about the captures/videos?

@Asmo X- Well, it is generally good to get any sort of feedback, but please don't just charge in mindlessly before you even test it and try it out for yourself. I really wonder what kind of interesting comments I will get from you in the future...
Title:
Post by: RavenOfRazgriz on December 19, 2009, 03:40:57 pm
Quote from: "Jon"@RavenOfRazgriz- I believe you are right, but same thing I said above to Dominic. And are you 100% sure about the captures/videos?

If it's text, don't post entire conversations.

Use screen captures to post good one-liner hooks that impress enough as stand-alone items to make people want to see how the story itself got changed.

Kind of like a movie advertisement.  A small piece of plot to get people interested, and some one-liners / otherwise cool shit to prove that getting interested was worth it.  Nothing too big.
Title:
Post by: Jon on December 19, 2009, 04:38:38 pm
@Raven- Thanks, I will put some stuff up, with the F8 thing from esPSXe. But not now, way too late for me haha.
Title:
Post by: Asmo X on December 19, 2009, 10:18:18 pm
I'm not applying the patch. Just post the text file and I'll read it that way. Since you didn't actually change any events it isn't necessary for me to watch it in action. I can put two and two together.
Title:
Post by: Jon on December 20, 2009, 08:35:36 am
Didn't have time to put the screen shots online, but here is a little advertisement for y'all. Enjoy!

@Asmo- I can send it to your email, a .txt, but please then don't post it online because it will give away the story. Should I do that?
Title:
Post by: Asmo X on December 20, 2009, 09:18:40 am
No, it's only the first chapter. Stop worrying about spoilers. If you post it here people can read it and critique it. Although I can tell right now, whatever you have written is probably not going to work. You can't just edit a whole new story over unchanged events without it looking really contrived and stupid.
Title:
Post by: Jon on December 20, 2009, 10:45:18 am
Yeah okay. Your advice sounds sound. Fine, it is just a (supposed to be) funny version of FFT. Like I said, I had way too much time on the day I made it, so please no one take it too serious. I will definetly consider now to change actual events around/characters, ect. Nevertheless, try it out if you have some spare time and I will try to improve it in any way, even though this is more or less a fun project. I think I will instead focus now on 2 main objectives for myself (one which won't work, but who cares): a Mandalia Plains Map with a floating airship(this is the one that wont work) and a new patch/story/events like Asmo suggested. Something serious.
Title:
Post by: Atsuro on December 20, 2009, 09:21:44 pm
ROFL DEFINITELY! I am always willing to kill people i don't know!

As a parody of the game you have my endorsement. I second changing the game  events. This would make a pretty good parody though. lol
Title:
Post by: Jon on December 21, 2009, 04:29:31 am
Shhhh...don't tell people that it is a parody haha, well now the cat is out of the bag! Thank you for the kind words btw, Atsuro :)
Title:
Post by: Dome on December 21, 2009, 04:56:13 am
Come on, post some screenshot!
Title:
Post by: Jon on December 21, 2009, 05:09:52 am
Screenshots? I sorta did that 5 posts up there, but yeah gimme a minute...check out the Advertisement.rar in the meantime...photobucket is so slow for me...
Title:
Post by: Dome on December 21, 2009, 05:38:24 am
Lulz, some funny shit here
Btw, change some event, post some screen in the first post and call this "Spoof patch"
It can be quite nice to see/read
Title:
Post by: Jon on December 21, 2009, 05:54:29 am
Here are some screen shots!

(http://i831.photobucket.com/albums/zz233/JonsBucketPics/Final%20Fantasy%20Tactics/dying.png)
(http://i831.photobucket.com/albums/zz233/JonsBucketPics/Final%20Fantasy%20Tactics/dycedarg.png)
(http://i831.photobucket.com/albums/zz233/JonsBucketPics/Final%20Fantasy%20Tactics/training.png)
(http://i831.photobucket.com/albums/zz233/JonsBucketPics/Final%20Fantasy%20Tactics/zalbagmushrooms.png)
(http://i831.photobucket.com/albums/zz233/JonsBucketPics/Final%20Fantasy%20Tactics/ramzaorbonne.png)
Title:
Post by: Jon on December 21, 2009, 05:55:36 am
Ahhh! Tooooo big! Aww well, too bad haha
Title:
Post by: Dome on December 21, 2009, 06:03:20 am
Put them under spoiler in the first post...
Title:
Post by: Zenius on December 21, 2009, 06:06:16 am
Just thought I'd point it out, but it's "definitely" not "definetly"
Title:
Post by: Jon on December 21, 2009, 06:11:08 am
@Zenius- Oh snap, you are right, but since this is just a test version, I will correct my spelling mistakes later. Thanks for the heads up!

@Dome- done.
Title:
Post by: philsov on December 21, 2009, 12:46:37 pm
:roll:

Jon, I'm working on a spoof patch of my own to be tacked onto ASM'd.  

I've already got most of chapter 1 done, but if you'd like to submit any event spoof from chapter 2 onward odds are it'd make it.  If you're interested lemme know.
Title:
Post by: mav on December 21, 2009, 01:05:19 pm
Not bad, not bad. A little less vulgar than some of the other ones I've seen but still decent.
Title:
Post by: SilvasRuin on December 21, 2009, 01:51:11 pm
Vulgarity should have no correlation to quality if the writer him/herself is fairly decent. If the writer isn't decent, then it tends to be a NEGATIVE correlation, not a positive one.  Vulgarity often seems forced to me in bad writing.

Those screenshots got a few chuckles out of me.
Title:
Post by: Jon on December 21, 2009, 02:50:12 pm
Thank you all for the kind words, and I don't aim to be overtly vulgar. Sometimes, here and there, but most of the jokes and such are more slap stick, (heavily based off of the original) well I hope at least. Also, yes Philsov, I am very interested. Please if you would be so kind, let me try your spoof patch, that is if you are willing. This has no ASM'd hacking, just plain old TEST.EVT changes because I have no idea how to change the actual events in that sense. Just the text. If you do want to, please send it to my email or post it, ect. Thank you!

Today I played mine over a bit and already I found a mistake on the Mandalia Plains, Delita talks and it says Ramza's name in the box... *facepalm* .
Title:
Post by: SilvasRuin on December 21, 2009, 02:53:41 pm
I was just commenting on what seemed to me to be mav suggesting that vulgarity somehow makes stuff better.  He probably used odd wording anyways and didn't mean it like that.  Probably.
Title:
Post by: Jon on December 21, 2009, 03:04:56 pm
Yeah, actually it isn't even that vulgar, just for everyone to know. Also, I said strong language, but imo it isnt, well what I am used to. I guess I was more or less warning little 10 year olds from playing my patch, if there are any on here...if you got some time, you should try the TEST.EVT out, who knows, you may enjoy it...or you could tell me what is too stupid and I will change it around to something better. Thanks for all the feedback y'all!
Title:
Post by: philsov on December 21, 2009, 03:27:26 pm
Quote from: "Jon"Also, yes Philsov, I am very interested. Please if you would be so kind, let me try your spoof patch, that is if you are willing. This has no ASM'd hacking, just plain old TEST.EVT changes because I have no idea how to change the actual events in that sense. Just the text. If you do want to, please send it to my email or post it, ect. Thank you!

Today I played mine over a bit and already I found a mistake on the Mandalia Plains, Delita talks and it says Ramza's name in the box... *facepalm* .

well... I've been doing them more unilaterally.  That is, I've just been going through all the events and haven't bothered recompiling them, nor plan to, until I'm through with the game and then I do one big ass recompile and then go through everything to proof it and make sure the text boxes are placed correctly and portraits are correct and crap like that.  I'm only planning on changing the text for everything, the only event I'm truly changing might be the ending, but we'll see how I feel when I reach it.

Edit:  Yes, I understand this is just test.evt editing with zodiac's tool.  that's exactly what I want :)

Buuuut... a couple excerpts:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgyo9NT0cCc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgyo9NT0cCc)

Outside Igros:
ALGUS: ...My family was once respected like the Beoulves. My
grandfather was captured during the Fifty Year War... He sold
his friends out to the enemy to save himself. But, as he left
the castle, he got stabbed in the back by a cadet just like
myself. One of my grandfather's friends managed to escape and
spread the story around. Of course my father didn't believe
it, but everyone else did, they deserted him...

DELITA: Summary. Now.

ALGUS: I'm a wanker.

RAMZA: That's better.

VOICE OF YOUNG GIRL: Delita!

DELITA: Teta!

RAMZA: Alma, Zalbag!

ALGUS: Algus!

RAMZA: ...Algus?

ZALBAG: I heard how you beat the thieves in Gariland. That's
worthy of a Beoulve. I'm sure father would've been pleased
with you.

RAMZA: So stabbing things until they die is the way of the Beoulves?

ZALBAG: You know it.

RAMZA: Rock on.

TETA: Delita, I'm glad you're doing well.

DELITA: And you also. How is your schooling?

TETA: Fine. Everyone is so nice to me...

ALMA: Why must you turn this castle into a house of LIES, Teta?

TETA: Oh you shut up.

ZALBAG: Excuse me, but I must go hunt some thieves.

RAMZA: Yee haw!

ZALBAG: The death corps want a ransom.

RAMZA: How large?

ZALBAG: A billion gil.

ZALBAG: True. We could pay easily, but we're arrogant bastards. Oh wait, one more thing...our messenger hasn't returned yet.

RAMZA: What did you say?

ZALBAG: Nevermind. Guarding a castle is boring work, don't you think? *Winks*

ALGUS: I think he likes me!

DELITA: Teta, I have to go now...

Mandalia:
THIEF: He's still breathing. What should we do?

THIEF 2: Give him some tea, untie him, and let him on his merry way.

THIEF: Super!

RAMZA: Stop thieves!

THIEF 2: I'm a Squire.

RAMZA: Now I can save that young man, or kill the enemies. I am a cold hearted bastard, so I will destroy all enemies.

DELITA: Good choice Ramza, we all get +10 brave! We wouldn't have if you'd picked the other option!

Igros after saving the marquis:
LARG: So, you are Dycedarg's younger brother.....relax. You
look exactly like the late General Balbanes... A fine-looking
young man. I'm sure that youthful energy didn't come from just
guarding the castle.....

ALGUS: Zing.

DELITA: Burned.

RAMZA: Owned.

DYCEDARG: Larg, I can make your death about 3 chapters early if I wanted to.

LARG: ...You were planning on killing me? That sounds erotic.

RAMZA: I think we should leave. Now.

Stuff along that vein.
Title:
Post by: Jon on December 21, 2009, 03:49:34 pm
LOL! Seriously! Hahaha! This is sorta like mine, except mine has far more swear words, but yeah! Hey! The last one has an idea similar to mine:

Simon: Oh I don't want to die in Chapter 2...

Then later Simon to Ovelia: Goodbye. I won't see you agian. Ovelia: I know.

Aww hell, just patch the TEST.EVT of mine to one of your .isos if you can and try it out. I think we should work together on this...haha, besides, if we mix our jokes and ideas it is bound to be even funnier...
Title:
Post by: Jon on December 21, 2009, 04:15:28 pm
Just watched the youtube video, I think some how it is very similar to my opening...this is just getting weird, I like the part where the female knight barges in (the one who should've stayed in the kitchen) haha
Title:
Post by: mav on December 21, 2009, 05:23:00 pm
Quote from: "SilvasRuin"I was just commenting on what seemed to me to be mav suggesting that vulgarity somehow makes stuff better. He probably used odd wording anyways and didn't mean it like that. Probably.
Righto--what I meant was something more like "Hey, this is funny without being vulgar, and overall this is a pretty decent patch." In fact, I do agree that vulgarity doesn't equal hilarity, but that's besides the point.

Back on topic, I do like the idea of this patch, but I doubt I'll play it. This isn't a shot to your efforts; I just prefer new events to new dialog. Keep up the good work, Jon.
Title:
Post by: Kokojo on December 21, 2009, 05:25:25 pm
Well, if you go further, of course il play it when I make my alphabets soup challenges.
I say continue, this is very nice.
Title:
Post by: RavenOfRazgriz on December 21, 2009, 05:38:07 pm
See what I told you, Jon?

A couple screenshots and this thread went from headdesk to good.

Your work isn't bad, by the way.
Title:
Post by: Jon on December 21, 2009, 06:25:35 pm
Thank you everyone!  I was actually very nervous when I posted this, but now I feel like giving more life and energy to what started out as a project I was doing out of boredom. I wanted to learn to decompile and compile and at the same time amuse myself...my life is sad...but now I have some more confidence. Also R of R, I took your advise, so let me thank you! ;)
Title:
Post by: Zaen on December 21, 2009, 08:08:44 pm
Hah, not bad.

These are the kinds of parody I love. I'm gonna be watching this thread. Might make me want to playthrough the game all the way again. I usually just stop halfway through these days..
Title:
Post by: Jon on December 22, 2009, 05:20:52 am
Thank you, but I only did up until the beginning of chapter 2. Working on that atm, but also on an airship and other things...maybe I should drop the air ship for now and focus on this, because this is possible and the air ship is unbelievably difficult...
Title:
Post by: VampragonLord on December 22, 2009, 07:11:07 am
the script doesnt look that bad, but it feels like it would be funnier if it were more.... "mature". little one shots and overall moronic characters are great for a chuckle or two, but a few, on-running jokes can carry the script much easier, and feel much less forced. Keeping the characters IN character, while still dropping the jokes would also help to improve it. Take the first screen shot, its fine and a decent one-liner, but if later on in the game, zalbag or dycedarg actually joined you for a battle, hell just having the zalbag vs dycedarg scene be a "one upsmanship" fight for who gets to teach ramza would be fairly entertaining.
I realize im rambling at this point so, long story short, carry the jokes, dont just drop witty one liners.
Title:
Post by: Jon on December 22, 2009, 11:38:00 am
Okay, no problem with the rambling. I have already a whole story in my head, who is who in my version...you'll see when I am all done. I will have here and there plenty of 1 liners, but it is after all a story...

Finished up to Zirekile Falls (it is difficult to come up with funny things for battles where you have to make desicions- like saving Boco's feathery ass- nevermind)
Title:
Post by: Jon on December 26, 2009, 05:29:44 pm
Anyone actually play this patch? I would love just a little feedback, like whether it is okay or if it totally sucks...I need a tester...finished up to where you first meet Mustadio. Oh snap, thats only one more battle after Zirekile, I am so lazy...
Title: Re: Parody Dialogue-Please play and test it!
Post by: sephiroth666 on April 04, 2010, 01:28:09 am
Well unlike mst of the people ithought it was pretty funny..i have t ask how didu do it exactly? ive een looking it up 4 a while and nothing will work for me thnx
Good Job!!
Title: Re: Parody Dialogue-Please play and test it!
Post by: Archael on April 05, 2010, 11:56:47 am
hey this is pretty funny, good job