Title: Red Mage Double Cast?
Post by: Jon on December 14, 2009, 02:38:22 pm
Post by: Jon on December 14, 2009, 02:38:22 pm
I can't figure this out- is it possible to make Doublecast, not in the sense that a spell goes off twice like the Hydras Thunderbolt or whatever, but a Skillset that allows you to cast a normal spell, like Fira, twice? Is this possible? I bet there is a simple solution, but I can't figure it out...thanks for any help...
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Post by: SolidSnakeDog on December 17, 2009, 12:09:04 am
Post by: SolidSnakeDog on December 17, 2009, 12:09:04 am
Hmm...if you use the formula the hydras is using (5E) and put for exemple *Fire* for the animation you will end up using Fire 3 times. (Give it the normal cost and CT the spell has....actually double the cost because you are using it 2 times)
You can change how much time the skill is used by changing the nombers at : *X : 2 Y : 12* (Base form hydra skill Triple thunder)
Just change the *X :2* to *X : 1* and you will get the double cast effect istend of triple.
Even if this is working you will get problems about the AOE because of the random factor. (Unless you plan on using it on an single taget that it)
You will aslo have a problem about the spell dammage. To fix this change the *Y : 12* value to the base strength of the spell you want to be used 2 times. Take fire for exemple : this has a value of *Y : 14* so change the value to this and there you go. you can use fire 2 time in an row. Using the same dammage has Fire the 2 times.
Lastly, on the bottom box, use the same flags for the spell you want to be used 2 times.
Hope this helped you.
You can change how much time the skill is used by changing the nombers at : *X : 2 Y : 12* (Base form hydra skill Triple thunder)
Just change the *X :2* to *X : 1* and you will get the double cast effect istend of triple.
Even if this is working you will get problems about the AOE because of the random factor. (Unless you plan on using it on an single taget that it)
You will aslo have a problem about the spell dammage. To fix this change the *Y : 12* value to the base strength of the spell you want to be used 2 times. Take fire for exemple : this has a value of *Y : 14* so change the value to this and there you go. you can use fire 2 time in an row. Using the same dammage has Fire the 2 times.
Lastly, on the bottom box, use the same flags for the spell you want to be used 2 times.
Hope this helped you.
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Post by: Jon on December 17, 2009, 04:20:21 am
Post by: Jon on December 17, 2009, 04:20:21 am
This is good, thank you. I think that the sacrafice of AOE is only fair with the Red Mage's double cast, otherwise the game may become too easy (even though vanilla is already easy enough). 1 target hit twice. Not bad. I can get rid of that whole Bio mess and make some room for Blizzard, Thunder, Fire and Cure which all hit a target twice. 
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Post by: Vanya on December 17, 2009, 04:54:48 am
Post by: Vanya on December 17, 2009, 04:54:48 am
A true double cast ability like in FFTA/A2 would require some hefty ASM hacking. This is the closest you can get with the patcher alone.
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Post by: woodenbandman on December 18, 2009, 11:49:41 pm
Post by: woodenbandman on December 18, 2009, 11:49:41 pm
What about an ability that has an Aoe of 1, and is similar to the truth/untruth stuff, with 2 hits (not random). I can't really express what I mean, but It's an idea based on the truth skillset.
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Post by: SilvasRuin on December 19, 2009, 06:15:23 am
Post by: SilvasRuin on December 19, 2009, 06:15:23 am
Um... that sounds exactly like the method that solidsnakedog already gave.
Though would unchecking Random Fire allow it to have a normal AoE when doing this?
Though would unchecking Random Fire allow it to have a normal AoE when doing this?
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Post by: Skip Sandwich on December 19, 2009, 03:43:53 pm
Post by: Skip Sandwich on December 19, 2009, 03:43:53 pm
yes it would, random fire is the flag that makes it hit a random square within the area, it works even with single hit skills. this is not to be confused with the random hits flag, which is just for the AI