Title: Need helps with basic sprite editing
Post by: EpikComplex on November 02, 2009, 09:06:34 pm
Post by: EpikComplex on November 02, 2009, 09:06:34 pm
Hi I'm just posting this up to ask for basic sprite editing help as I can't really find a tutorial anywhere :( It'd be a great idea to make some kind of tutorial for others to use as many people are probably as clueless as I am when starting out.
Anyways, any help to my questions would be greatly appreciated as Im anxious to make my own sprite but frustrated at the fact that it's so confusing when dealing with Graphics Gale. Thank you guys!
Anyways, any help to my questions would be greatly appreciated as Im anxious to make my own sprite but frustrated at the fact that it's so confusing when dealing with Graphics Gale. Thank you guys!
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 02, 2009, 11:59:24 pm
Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 02, 2009, 11:59:24 pm
Alright, first of all, MS PAINT PWNED!!!! Haha
Ehem...ok, for spriting purpose, use Ms paint. For other editing purpose, example, palettes swap and editing, use other programs like GraphicGale.
Alright, first, on replacing/cutting arms, legs, heads - use Ms paint to do all this (for me that is). Once you cut/replace and it fits your desire, then change palettes or the other way round. Example, if you want to replace Agrias's arms with let say, Shrine Knights' and use Shrine Knights palettes, so what you have to do is change Agrias's palettes to Shrine Knight's palettes so that you won't go above 16 colours. Even if you went above the colour limits, you can always remove the extra colours, example, identical colours, to make it back to 16 colours.
For change palettes, I'm not sure how to work it with GraphicGale, because I use GIMP, as what Smash suggested. Though, now GraphicGale is better than GIMP. So, use GraphicGale. Perhaps someone with more experience on this like, mav (has done a tutorial on how to use GraphicGale) may explain it better to you.
Anyway, good luck and Welcome to FFH ^^
Ehem...ok, for spriting purpose, use Ms paint. For other editing purpose, example, palettes swap and editing, use other programs like GraphicGale.
Alright, first, on replacing/cutting arms, legs, heads - use Ms paint to do all this (for me that is). Once you cut/replace and it fits your desire, then change palettes or the other way round. Example, if you want to replace Agrias's arms with let say, Shrine Knights' and use Shrine Knights palettes, so what you have to do is change Agrias's palettes to Shrine Knight's palettes so that you won't go above 16 colours. Even if you went above the colour limits, you can always remove the extra colours, example, identical colours, to make it back to 16 colours.
For change palettes, I'm not sure how to work it with GraphicGale, because I use GIMP, as what Smash suggested. Though, now GraphicGale is better than GIMP. So, use GraphicGale. Perhaps someone with more experience on this like, mav (has done a tutorial on how to use GraphicGale) may explain it better to you.
Anyway, good luck and Welcome to FFH ^^
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Post by: EpikComplex on November 03, 2009, 12:05:51 am
Post by: EpikComplex on November 03, 2009, 12:05:51 am
Thanks :]
I get what you mean by changing palettes before hand and all but when it comes to using ms paint the problem would be how to exactly cut along the edges of the sprite pieces
any idea on how to do that?
I get what you mean by changing palettes before hand and all but when it comes to using ms paint the problem would be how to exactly cut along the edges of the sprite pieces
any idea on how to do that?
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 03, 2009, 12:36:55 am
Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 03, 2009, 12:36:55 am
Well, unfortunately, you'll have to clean them up manually, that's what I did though. It does slow down your spriting progress and I don't know how to do this faster.
Here's an example:
Here's an example:
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Post by: EpikComplex on November 03, 2009, 12:38:42 am
Post by: EpikComplex on November 03, 2009, 12:38:42 am
ohhh ok gotcha, so to do that would you use ms paint still or gimp/graphics gale?
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 03, 2009, 12:41:54 am
Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 03, 2009, 12:41:54 am
I do this with Ms paint. Maybe some do this with GraphicGale,
QuoteI'm not sure though ^^QuoteLooks like GraphicGale is much better than GIMP.For palette and\for pixel editing, yes.
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Post by: EpikComplex on November 03, 2009, 12:45:58 am
Post by: EpikComplex on November 03, 2009, 12:45:58 am
xDD I see I see so one last thing.. when you do attach parts you color them so that they have the same palette before hand right? D:
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 03, 2009, 01:10:21 am
Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 03, 2009, 01:10:21 am
Yeah ^^
But if you want to choose parts that fits your desire, you could do like what I did, replace parts, see if they fits, then swap the colours. Though its bit troublesome and double works.
But if you want to choose parts that fits your desire, you could do like what I did, replace parts, see if they fits, then swap the colours. Though its bit troublesome and double works.
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Post by: EpikComplex on November 03, 2009, 01:13:01 am
Post by: EpikComplex on November 03, 2009, 01:13:01 am
haha yea i get what you mean, well anyways thanks for your help 
now i can actually get started on spriting thanks to you!
now i can actually get started on spriting thanks to you!
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 03, 2009, 01:17:43 am
Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 03, 2009, 01:17:43 am
You're most welcome ^^
Glad to help.
Looking forward to your work ^^
Glad to help.
Looking forward to your work ^^
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Post by: Paheej on November 03, 2009, 01:53:36 pm
Post by: Paheej on November 03, 2009, 01:53:36 pm
If I am pulling a Frankenstein spriting project - I would use Photoshop to do all the editing. Then use GIMP to reduce the palette and use Graphics gale to edit the palette and place the portrait in.