Poll
Question: The question that kills:
Option 1: Oracle
votes: 33
Option 2: Ying-Yang Mage
votes: 4
Title: Oracle or Ying-Yang Mage?
Post by: Xifanie on October 13, 2007, 01:49:57 pm
Post by: Xifanie on October 13, 2007, 01:49:57 pm
Thought one no? 
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Post by: Zozma on January 21, 2008, 09:26:31 pm
Post by: Zozma on January 21, 2008, 09:26:31 pm
oracle is definately better for that but what needs to be worked on is "ying-yang magic" i dont think that fits a status mage at all. but what could you rename it to?
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Post by: LastingDawn on February 06, 2008, 09:16:30 pm
Post by: LastingDawn on February 06, 2008, 09:16:30 pm
I think... personally... the whole class is labeled wrong, an "Oracle" would be one who calls or predicts miracles, in which Oracles in FFT don't even pretend to do. It might be better to call them "Feng-Shui Mages" Or generic "Sage" though they certainly do not fit the traditional ephitet of a Sage in Final Fantasy... In any case, as well. A notorious misconception I've seen so far is that it is called "Ying-Yang Magic" When it is in fact simply called "Yin-Yang Magic" It seems to be a typical Taoist Mage from the way they make it sound. So "Sage", "Yin-Yang Mage", or "Feng-Shui Mage/Artist" would be completely acceptable.
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Post by: Kuraudo Sutoraifu on February 06, 2008, 10:34:18 pm
Post by: Kuraudo Sutoraifu on February 06, 2008, 10:34:18 pm
Mmmmm... Sage is delicious, I pick that one. I always thought Oracle sounded off.
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Post by: Cheetah on February 07, 2008, 03:46:48 am
Post by: Cheetah on February 07, 2008, 03:46:48 am
Why not Taoist or Tao Sage/Mage?
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Post by: LastingDawn on February 07, 2008, 06:30:21 am
Post by: LastingDawn on February 07, 2008, 06:30:21 am
Hehe, well Taoism is a religion, just because one is a member of it, doesn't mean that he/she is a person with those kinds of abilities. Tao Mage, is an interesting alternative though. If the " X Mage" thought is still being used.
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Post by: Sen on February 07, 2008, 07:06:37 am
Post by: Sen on February 07, 2008, 07:06:37 am
I thought Sage casts Aero,Water 
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Post by: VincentCraven on February 07, 2008, 07:52:32 am
Post by: VincentCraven on February 07, 2008, 07:52:32 am
And what Sage are you thinking of?
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Post by: Sen on February 08, 2008, 08:26:00 am
Post by: Sen on February 08, 2008, 08:26:00 am
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance's Sage
but it has some similar skills of Oracle like blind and drain
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Sage_%28Final_Fantasy_Tactics_Advance%29
but it has some similar skills of Oracle like blind and drain
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Sage_%28Final_Fantasy_Tactics_Advance%29
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Post by: Ryonin on March 04, 2008, 04:43:01 pm
Post by: Ryonin on March 04, 2008, 04:43:01 pm
I vote "Onmyōji"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onmyoji (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onmyoji)
I believe this is what the class was based on. Some fiction actually has them cause the good or bad fortune through magic, rather than simply predict it. Also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shikigami (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shikigami)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onmyoji (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onmyoji)
I believe this is what the class was based on. Some fiction actually has them cause the good or bad fortune through magic, rather than simply predict it. Also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shikigami (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shikigami)
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Post by: Sen on March 05, 2008, 04:40:49 am
Post by: Sen on March 05, 2008, 04:40:49 am
then oracle is just the same with time mage controlling also time or astrology
they conrol time also?
they conrol time also?
QuoteYin-yang and the Five Elements, as well as the divisions of learning to which it was linked - astronomy, calendar-making, the reckoning of time, and divination, studies based on observation of nature
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Post by: Ryonin on March 05, 2008, 04:33:38 pm
Post by: Ryonin on March 05, 2008, 04:33:38 pm
You're trying to reach way too far, there.
Nowhere does it say anything about manipluating time. Making calendars and knowing what time it is do not make a time mage.
Finishing the sentence you clipped off to try and make your point
Please don't try to confuse the issue by selective editting.
Nowhere does it say anything about manipluating time. Making calendars and knowing what time it is do not make a time mage.
Finishing the sentence you clipped off to try and make your point
Quote- were amalgamated into fortune-telling.
Please don't try to confuse the issue by selective editting.
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Post by: Austin on March 09, 2008, 07:22:52 pm
Post by: Austin on March 09, 2008, 07:22:52 pm
I think oracle's fine. If we were going to change it to anything I'd want it to be green mage.
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Post by: Archael on April 26, 2008, 02:38:22 pm
Post by: Archael on April 26, 2008, 02:38:22 pm
dude, oracle
no question
no question
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Post by: Vanya on April 27, 2008, 07:52:07 pm
Post by: Vanya on April 27, 2008, 07:52:07 pm
I think that the most important thing is that the Japanese name for the job actually IS onmyouji.
I think the most relevant thing in the article is that they were thought to be able to manipulate 'shikigami'. Shikigami are like minor deities or spirits... just like the ones that show up in their spells.
Since they call upon spirits, I think the best translation would have been 'shaman'. In my own hack I'm removing the spirits and calling them 'enchanters'.
Oh, and about Feng-shui Mage! That was used for another job in the japanese original.
Fuu-suishi:
fuu = wind. sui = water. shi = user/practitioner.
Common mis-translation is Wind/water User.
However, if you literally translate feng-shui it also means wind/water. I looked it up and fuu-sui is the Japanese form of feng-shui.
What is feng-shui or fuu-sui?
Feng-shui = Chinese geomancy.
Thus, Fuu-suishi = Geomancer.
In the original release of FFT that is the Elementalist.
I think the most relevant thing in the article is that they were thought to be able to manipulate 'shikigami'. Shikigami are like minor deities or spirits... just like the ones that show up in their spells.
Since they call upon spirits, I think the best translation would have been 'shaman'. In my own hack I'm removing the spirits and calling them 'enchanters'.
Oh, and about Feng-shui Mage! That was used for another job in the japanese original.
Fuu-suishi:
fuu = wind. sui = water. shi = user/practitioner.
Common mis-translation is Wind/water User.
However, if you literally translate feng-shui it also means wind/water. I looked it up and fuu-sui is the Japanese form of feng-shui.
What is feng-shui or fuu-sui?
Feng-shui = Chinese geomancy.
Thus, Fuu-suishi = Geomancer.
In the original release of FFT that is the Elementalist.