Title: Some Sprite Retouches/Fixes
Post by: Kunfusion on September 09, 2009, 05:13:15 am
Post by: Kunfusion on September 09, 2009, 05:13:15 am
Hi all! I'm awfully new to this community, but I've been lingering for a few days.
I found some sprites that interested me and tried to use them...however, they didn't seem to be finished. The soldier sprite isn't really finished, but I think it's usable in the sense that it's Cloud in the Soldier uniform. I couldn't find it compiled anywhere on the forums so I decided to do it. The Cid sprite was unfinished in many spots, so I took the liberty of finishing it. I'm new to spriting which is why I started with these. :D
I found some sprites that interested me and tried to use them...however, they didn't seem to be finished. The soldier sprite isn't really finished, but I think it's usable in the sense that it's Cloud in the Soldier uniform. I couldn't find it compiled anywhere on the forums so I decided to do it. The Cid sprite was unfinished in many spots, so I took the liberty of finishing it. I'm new to spriting which is why I started with these. :D
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Post by: Asmo X on September 09, 2009, 05:27:41 am
Post by: Asmo X on September 09, 2009, 05:27:41 am
Post PNGs too
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Post by: Kunfusion on September 09, 2009, 05:39:30 am
Post by: Kunfusion on September 09, 2009, 05:39:30 am
Cid with near colorless portrait. I had to redo the coloring because I couldn't convert the old palette into a 16-bit bmp:
(http://i29.tinypic.com/2jax2yc.png)
I didn't really do anything to the Soldier other than piece it together. I probably going to try to take out the Cloud part of it, though:
(http://i30.tinypic.com/2uylt3q.png)
(http://i29.tinypic.com/2jax2yc.png)
I didn't really do anything to the Soldier other than piece it together. I probably going to try to take out the Cloud part of it, though:
(http://i30.tinypic.com/2uylt3q.png)
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 09, 2009, 05:40:46 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 09, 2009, 05:40:46 am
That way, it'll be easier for us and to you to improve your sprite.
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Good thing someone wants to edit those sprites. Let's see some updates.
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Good thing someone wants to edit those sprites. Let's see some updates.
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Post by: Kunfusion on September 09, 2009, 05:46:03 am
Post by: Kunfusion on September 09, 2009, 05:46:03 am
I think the Soldier sprite has so much potential...which is why I'm trying to do something with it. I'm not really a fan of FF7, but I like these renditions of the characters (and Zack's).
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 09, 2009, 05:55:57 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 09, 2009, 05:55:57 am
What's wrong with them, by the way?
here's I suggest,
for the soldier sprite, I would like it if the color of the helmet+pants would be gray(metal).
For Cid, change his colors entirely, imo, if you don't like them.
here's I suggest,
for the soldier sprite, I would like it if the color of the helmet+pants would be gray(metal).
For Cid, change his colors entirely, imo, if you don't like them.
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Post by: Kunfusion on September 09, 2009, 06:00:15 am
Post by: Kunfusion on September 09, 2009, 06:00:15 am
The Cid sprite was unfinished. It had bits and pieces of Mustadio on the sheet. (Hair, yellow shirt on the bottom half.)
The Soldier sprite...I'm actually working on an edit. I may have it up in a few.
Thanks for the suggestions!
The Soldier sprite...I'm actually working on an edit. I may have it up in a few.
Thanks for the suggestions!
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Post by: Asmo X on September 09, 2009, 06:06:06 am
Post by: Asmo X on September 09, 2009, 06:06:06 am
Another suggestion for the Cid would be to slightly desaturate the shirt. I think that colour might be present on a Lancer cape or something. Might be good to take it from that.
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 09, 2009, 06:09:10 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 09, 2009, 06:09:10 am
Well, I did what I said before:
here's a simple color swap:
just sharing..
(Biggs' colors)
edit: borrowed colors, (also fixed head on the lowest part)
here's a simple color swap:
just sharing..
(Biggs' colors)
edit: borrowed colors, (also fixed head on the lowest part)
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Post by: Asmo X on September 09, 2009, 06:13:41 am
Post by: Asmo X on September 09, 2009, 06:13:41 am
There should be another shade of gray on the helmet
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 09, 2009, 06:17:34 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 09, 2009, 06:17:34 am
Yes, I think so, too.
Oops. I forgot to borrow colors.
Oops. I forgot to borrow colors.
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Post by: Kunfusion on September 09, 2009, 06:41:52 am
Post by: Kunfusion on September 09, 2009, 06:41:52 am
(http://i27.tinypic.com/24345c0.png)
DeCloudified
I like the colors on that, MikeMitchi.
Yeah, I was thinking of something like that Asmo. Thanks. It'd at least help compliment the portrait a little.
DeCloudified
I like the colors on that, MikeMitchi.
Yeah, I was thinking of something like that Asmo. Thanks. It'd at least help compliment the portrait a little.
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 09, 2009, 06:48:56 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 09, 2009, 06:48:56 am
Yours was better.
Yup, add one shade on the helm, Kunfusion! (2nd brightest color, or brightest color)
the colors used was 15. One more.
Yup, add one shade on the helm, Kunfusion! (2nd brightest color, or brightest color)
the colors used was 15. One more.
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Post by: Kunfusion on September 09, 2009, 06:53:35 am
Post by: Kunfusion on September 09, 2009, 06:53:35 am
Really? Using the PalSuite thing it says there are 16 colors (15 + black bg).
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Post by: Kunfusion on September 09, 2009, 07:23:35 am
Post by: Kunfusion on September 09, 2009, 07:23:35 am
Cid saturated a little. I didn't use the Lancer colors, though. Just looking for opinions on this one at the moment.
(http://i28.tinypic.com/s5byp3.png)
(http://i28.tinypic.com/s5byp3.png)
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Post by: RolyTunedIn on September 09, 2009, 07:35:04 am
Post by: RolyTunedIn on September 09, 2009, 07:35:04 am
here is a nanki sprite i found if you wanted to finish it...
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Post by: Asmo X on September 09, 2009, 07:41:10 am
Post by: Asmo X on September 09, 2009, 07:41:10 am
You desaturated the whole sprite Kunfusion? I only think the shirt needed to be worked on. I know you'd probably have to go through and replace every colour by hand so maybe just use the previous one instead. It looks quite good anyhow.
Roly: Good find, but basically everything that isn't just a straight copy of the panther needs some work.
Roly: Good find, but basically everything that isn't just a straight copy of the panther needs some work.
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Post by: Kunfusion on September 09, 2009, 07:42:08 am
Post by: Kunfusion on September 09, 2009, 07:42:08 am
Haha, it's like a cross between a Panther and a Behemoth.
I haven't really started on monster types, yet. I'm still quite new to this. For now, I'm just going to stick to human classes.
Edit: FOUND AN EDIT THINGY.
Yeah, he's old anyways...so I figured he should look a little more bland and less shiny. I kinda just rushed it, though. Finishing the sprite and taking the rest of Mustadio out was annoying. xD
I haven't really started on monster types, yet. I'm still quite new to this. For now, I'm just going to stick to human classes.
Edit: FOUND AN EDIT THINGY.
Yeah, he's old anyways...so I figured he should look a little more bland and less shiny. I kinda just rushed it, though. Finishing the sprite and taking the rest of Mustadio out was annoying. xD
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 09, 2009, 08:49:02 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 09, 2009, 08:49:02 am
Full brown for Cid? (like cid in chocobo dungeon)
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Post by: Kunfusion on September 09, 2009, 08:53:16 am
Post by: Kunfusion on September 09, 2009, 08:53:16 am
That's a totally different Cid, but I can see how that can work.
I'm still kinda having trouble palette swapping the Soldier (trying to do 3, first, second, and third). No matter what I do, the colors get way inverted. The base used was poorly pixelated, I think. >_>
I'm still kinda having trouble palette swapping the Soldier (trying to do 3, first, second, and third). No matter what I do, the colors get way inverted. The base used was poorly pixelated, I think. >_>
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Post by: Kagebunji on September 09, 2009, 02:12:24 pm
Post by: Kagebunji on September 09, 2009, 02:12:24 pm
The sprite of Nanaki needs work yes, but I kinda like the portrait
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Post by: Mental_Gear on September 09, 2009, 04:23:24 pm
Post by: Mental_Gear on September 09, 2009, 04:23:24 pm
I kinda think more things from the Panther set of sprites could aid the nanaki one...colours are perfect as they are though.
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Post by: Kunfusion on September 09, 2009, 05:00:16 pm
Post by: Kunfusion on September 09, 2009, 05:00:16 pm
I think I'm going to leave Cid the way he is...unless anyone objects. The worn effect is really growing on me...
As for the Soldier...I went ahead and did a Biggs version (FF8 Style). I took the helmet colors from MikeMitchi's Wedge.
(http://i29.tinypic.com/2150ugp.png)
The coloring seems a little light to me. Any suggestions?
As for the Soldier...I went ahead and did a Biggs version (FF8 Style). I took the helmet colors from MikeMitchi's Wedge.
(http://i29.tinypic.com/2150ugp.png)
The coloring seems a little light to me. Any suggestions?
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 09, 2009, 05:24:09 pm
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 09, 2009, 05:24:09 pm
What? Did I make Wedge? haha.. sorry bout that.
Also, borrow the colors from units with red. :)
Also, borrow the colors from units with red. :)
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Post by: mav on September 09, 2009, 05:34:55 pm
Post by: mav on September 09, 2009, 05:34:55 pm
I like the Cid sprite a lot. The palettes on all of these are okay so far, but always try to borrow from existing sprites. Always. Heheh.
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Post by: Kunfusion on September 09, 2009, 05:47:41 pm
Post by: Kunfusion on September 09, 2009, 05:47:41 pm
Wow...missed the colors on that one. xD
(http://i32.tinypic.com/2jdkj8g.png)
Fix, sorta.
I've been using MS Paint/PalSuite for the sheets. For some reason, I'm lost on how to rotate palettes between sprites. (Ex. Adding red from an existing sprite.) Do I open 2 palettes and drag/drop or do I just open two sheets at once and copy the colors. Sorry if this a dumb question, I guess I'm not understanding the terminology.
(http://i32.tinypic.com/2jdkj8g.png)
Fix, sorta.
I've been using MS Paint/PalSuite for the sheets. For some reason, I'm lost on how to rotate palettes between sprites. (Ex. Adding red from an existing sprite.) Do I open 2 palettes and drag/drop or do I just open two sheets at once and copy the colors. Sorry if this a dumb question, I guess I'm not understanding the terminology.
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 09, 2009, 09:42:04 pm
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 09, 2009, 09:42:04 pm
Me, I don't know. I use GraphicsGale.
Maybe someone else can help.
Is it my monitor? Or does it really look brown?
Hmm.. yes, you should fix that.
And oh btw, the Cid sprite was done 'not good'.
Why? coz' the outlines for the whole clothes are based from the same
color.
Maybe someone else can help.
Is it my monitor? Or does it really look brown?
Hmm.. yes, you should fix that.
And oh btw, the Cid sprite was done 'not good'.
Why? coz' the outlines for the whole clothes are based from the same
color.
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Post by: mav on September 09, 2009, 09:49:44 pm
Post by: mav on September 09, 2009, 09:49:44 pm
Quote from: "Kunfusion"I've been using MS Paint/PalSuite for the sheets. For some reason, I'm lost on how to rotate palettes between sprites. (Ex. Adding red from an existing sprite.) Do I open 2 palettes and drag/drop or do I just open two sheets at once and copy the colors. Sorry if this a dumb question, I guess I'm not understanding the terminology.Drag and drop--on paint you can have the sprite just copied where there's space. Have the color to be replaced as the foreground color and the color replacing it as the background (or eraser) color. Hold down the mouse button on the right while erasing, and it'll replace the foreground color with the background color. It's a little time consuming, but it gets the job down (on a slow, small scale).
When it comes to full-scale palette changing, I'd suggest using something like GraphicsGale...
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Post by: Asmo X on September 10, 2009, 01:23:23 am
Post by: Asmo X on September 10, 2009, 01:23:23 am
Stop making your own palettes. God damn. Last 2 recolours are bad
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Post by: Kagebunji on September 10, 2009, 09:39:32 am
Post by: Kagebunji on September 10, 2009, 09:39:32 am
I agree with Asmo, borrow colors from existing sprites.
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Post by: Kunfusion on September 19, 2009, 05:21:39 am
Post by: Kunfusion on September 19, 2009, 05:21:39 am
Mkay, sorry for the lack of updates. Haven't really done much lately. I've finally figured out how to "borrow" colors without it being too tedious. xD
I'm still playing around with GraphicsGale a bit (amazing program, btw), so it may be a while before I actually update anything. I'd rather produce quality rather than a ton of recolored POS's.
Thanks, everyone, for all the critiques.
Also, here are the WORKING versions of Shinra/Soldier and Cid(Desaturated) + working portraits if anyone cares to use them, although I'm still working on getting Cid's palette perfected.
I'm still playing around with GraphicsGale a bit (amazing program, btw), so it may be a while before I actually update anything. I'd rather produce quality rather than a ton of recolored POS's.
Thanks, everyone, for all the critiques.
Also, here are the WORKING versions of Shinra/Soldier and Cid(Desaturated) + working portraits if anyone cares to use them, although I'm still working on getting Cid's palette perfected.
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 19, 2009, 10:24:44 am
Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 19, 2009, 10:24:44 am
can you post their respective .bmp files?
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Post by: Kunfusion on September 19, 2009, 10:38:26 am
Post by: Kunfusion on September 19, 2009, 10:38:26 am
I'll attach them. Tinypic isn't liking the .bmp files for some reason...
Edit: Nvm worked fine...
Edit: Nvm worked fine...
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Post by: mav on September 19, 2009, 01:21:05 pm
Post by: mav on September 19, 2009, 01:21:05 pm
I say brighten the colors a little bit on Cid and he'll be ready. Those goggles are so neat.
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Post by: RolyTunedIn on September 19, 2009, 01:26:33 pm
Post by: RolyTunedIn on September 19, 2009, 01:26:33 pm
yeah, cid needs to be brightened up a bit, i had to squint just too see the details.