Title: New Game + ?
Post by: commieclone on August 26, 2009, 11:45:41 am
Post by: commieclone on August 26, 2009, 11:45:41 am
Is it possible to somehow set up a patch that allows a new game plus option, allowing you to restart a game with all the same equipment and job abilities learned?
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Post by: Argy on August 26, 2009, 12:43:06 pm
Post by: Argy on August 26, 2009, 12:43:06 pm
CC, I was thinking that exact same thought!! I would love that option, also it would be great in Mercenaries as well!!
Hint... Hint
Hint... Hint
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Post by: Vanya on August 26, 2009, 01:41:51 pm
Post by: Vanya on August 26, 2009, 01:41:51 pm
It would require a fairly complex series of ASM hacks.
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Post by: Argy on August 26, 2009, 01:58:51 pm
Post by: Argy on August 26, 2009, 01:58:51 pm
So I would imagine that would mean no then.....
A man can surely dream........
A man can surely dream........
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Post by: Vanya on August 26, 2009, 02:00:02 pm
Post by: Vanya on August 26, 2009, 02:00:02 pm
Pretty much as I don't think anyone has ever actually ASM hacked the PSP version at all.
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Post by: Xifanie on August 26, 2009, 04:19:13 pm
Post by: Xifanie on August 26, 2009, 04:19:13 pm
wouldn't just setting the last event's 'next scenario' to orbonne work?
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Post by: Vanya on August 26, 2009, 08:18:47 pm
Post by: Vanya on August 26, 2009, 08:18:47 pm
Hmmm...that might work. Kinda the quick & dirty way of doing it huh?
Would that clash with the ending sequence, though?
Would that clash with the ending sequence, though?
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Post by: Argy on August 27, 2009, 07:32:33 am
Post by: Argy on August 27, 2009, 07:32:33 am
I have got a game saved right before the last fight, I think I might try it!!
Ideally , I would love to be reset to level 1 but keep all abilities and items!!
Ideally , I would love to be reset to level 1 but keep all abilities and items!!
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Post by: Vanya on August 27, 2009, 12:44:12 pm
Post by: Vanya on August 27, 2009, 12:44:12 pm
Let us know if it works!
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Post by: Tersius on August 27, 2009, 08:11:11 pm
Post by: Tersius on August 27, 2009, 08:11:11 pm
It's tedious, but I believe you can use Lioneditor to manually do new game plus. Seems like I did something like that once just for kicks, but I can't remember.
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Post by: Argy on September 01, 2009, 03:53:35 am
Post by: Argy on September 01, 2009, 03:53:35 am
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wouldn't just setting the last event's 'next scenario' to orbonne work?
Silly question, where do I find that?
Is in on the ENTD tab?
Cheers Argy
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Post by: Kamek on September 01, 2009, 05:02:31 pm
Post by: Kamek on September 01, 2009, 05:02:31 pm
You'll have to use the ATTACK.OUT editor (http://www.ffhacktics.com/downloads.php?id=16) to edit the final battle.
(Below instructions are for the PSX version, may be different for WotL)
Edit entry 144, it'll say "After Event do Goto Next Scenario", and change the Next Scenario to 001, that'll cause the game to go back to Orbonne Monastery at the very beginning of the game.
Has some weird effects... Ramza goes back to his Chapter 1 job class but keeps his levels and JP and such. Delita is re-added to your party as if it were a new game, and the game tries to give you six new starting generics -- if you don't have room you won't get them all.
After the Gariland Magic City battle, you'll go back to the world map, but all the dots are still available, and Orbonne Monastery is red. If you go to Mandalia Plains you'll start the Save Algus battle. If you go back to Orbonne you can repeat the final series of battles.
(Below instructions are for the PSX version, may be different for WotL)
Edit entry 144, it'll say "After Event do Goto Next Scenario", and change the Next Scenario to 001, that'll cause the game to go back to Orbonne Monastery at the very beginning of the game.
Has some weird effects... Ramza goes back to his Chapter 1 job class but keeps his levels and JP and such. Delita is re-added to your party as if it were a new game, and the game tries to give you six new starting generics -- if you don't have room you won't get them all.
After the Gariland Magic City battle, you'll go back to the world map, but all the dots are still available, and Orbonne Monastery is red. If you go to Mandalia Plains you'll start the Save Algus battle. If you go back to Orbonne you can repeat the final series of battles.
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Post by: Vanya on September 01, 2009, 10:13:57 pm
Post by: Vanya on September 01, 2009, 10:13:57 pm
I knew there'd be a catch! I don't think it would be too difficult to add a simple ASM hack that resets some of the flags that are set during the first play through.
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Post by: KazeKasano on September 06, 2009, 07:26:55 pm
Post by: KazeKasano on September 06, 2009, 07:26:55 pm
Personally, I think resetting the flags wouldn't be the best way to do a New Game +.
Having the ability to beat the game at any time...
Having the ability to beat the game at any time...
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Post by: Vanya on September 06, 2009, 10:00:09 pm
Post by: Vanya on September 06, 2009, 10:00:09 pm
Ummm... resetting the bytes that tell the game to activate the end game sequence back to what they normally are at the beginning of a real new game would prevent the player from beating the game at any time. Otherwise the player would not be able to go through the entire campaign from start to finish. It's just a matter of resetting the bytes in the correct RAM addresses before the next possible save.
The only other snag would be the removal of the special units from the roster and somehow retaining their stats, but I don't think there's enough RAM space for something like that.
The only other snag would be the removal of the special units from the roster and somehow retaining their stats, but I don't think there's enough RAM space for something like that.