Modding => Spriting => Topic started by: on December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm
Poll
Question: Should I make a new Lulu Sprite for the site?
Option 1: Yes
votes: 24
Option 2: No way
votes: 0
Option 3: You're a dick
votes: 3
Option 4: POLL WHORE (to which there is no point...)
votes: 6
Title: Lulu portrait and Sprite (in the works)
Post by: Zalge on August 21, 2009, 06:47:16 pm
The Story of WHY I'm doing this.
I was flipping through the Custom sprite section again and saw this Lulu sprite I had seen before... and it had been annoying me to no end.
The Sprite itself could be restyled to look MUCH better and more like Lulu. It looks more like they took the Balmafula sprite, made everything black, added badly shaded breasts, and made only one leg exposed. There were much better choices for a base in my opinion like... well the only one that really comes to mind right now is Reis. Mainly because she has long sleeves and a skirt that could be easily edited. (Also, LULU DOESN'T HAVE A FLIPPIN CAPE!)
The portrait wasn't SO horrible... unless you looked at it for a little while. Then you realize that the face's shading looks like its all one color. I understand that the person limited their colors, but I think they may have had more than they thought... either way, I think I could make it better.
While I know I probably sound like a total dick... thats how I feel about it. It could be GREATLY improved in my opinion. And... well, I feel like trying.
Two Versions now. Which should I keep on using and change the hair color already? Or perhaps I should start over again? Maybe someone has a better base portrait to suggest?
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Post by: mav on August 21, 2009, 08:29:51 pm
Do it. The sprite isn't terrible or anything but it needs work: better use of color and contrast, and it should look a little more like Lulu. Perhaps the base sprite wasn't a good one? I dunno...
The portrait really grinds my gears though--it's mostly a recolor and it didn't turn out too well. Know this though, a portrait with very fair skin and very dark hair is gonna be trouble...though I think it can be done.
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Post by: SilvasRuin on August 21, 2009, 08:34:58 pm
If you can do better than something someone else submitted, why not go for it? If nothing else, it can be submitted as an alternate version. There's nothing to lose by it. Why make a poll?
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Post by: Zalge on August 21, 2009, 08:37:08 pm
Quote from: "SilvasRuin"If you can do better than something someone else submitted, why not go for it? If nothing else, it can be submitted as an alternate version. There's nothing to lose by it. Why make a poll?
Well I don't want people thinking bad of me for just making it then saying, "HAI EVERYBODIES! LOOOK AT MEE. I DO BETTER THAN THE OTHER GUY." not that I would actually say that, but thats probably how some people would view it.
Also, I don't have as much time as I would like, and I wanted to know if people want to see this done. If no one wanted it, then I wouldn't even attempt it and save some time for myself.
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Post by: Seushiro on August 21, 2009, 10:11:18 pm
I wanna see that done. . . so pls. do it!
kindly work on her FUR >_< . . . furry coats are hard. . . maybe i'll use gafgarions fur in the sprites for squall's coat. . .
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Post by: Zozma on August 21, 2009, 10:19:36 pm
please yes, the one thats there now its... its just not doing it
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Post by: Mental_Gear on August 22, 2009, 02:56:04 am
Go ahead, and even though it may be inaccurate to X you may want to switch the hair to cover the other eye.
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Post by: Kagebunji on August 22, 2009, 07:18:08 am
Do it by all means! I have the same feeling about Lulu sprite, and seeing her reedone wouldn't be bad
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Post by: DarthPaul on August 22, 2009, 08:56:27 am
Go for it ya poll whore.
We could always use more good sprites.
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Post by: Xifanie on August 22, 2009, 10:06:45 am
Point taken, sprite remove.
Sorry cyberblade but I don't remember you asking for criticism or making any decent sprite.
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Post by: Asmo X on August 22, 2009, 10:20:49 am
that sprite really did suck
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Post by: Zalge on August 22, 2009, 11:58:55 am
I've run into a bit of a problem. Lulu is very colorful xD
She has all those hair adornments and necklaces, and that will make things extremely difficult with colors...
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Post by: Asmo X on August 22, 2009, 12:06:06 pm
Dont try and transfer all the little details. They wont scale down. Trying this will ensure the sprite looks really fucking stupid.
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Post by: RolyTunedIn on August 22, 2009, 12:12:40 pm
i thought i was the only one that felt that way about that sprite, every time i went through the sprite section it always caught my eye but in a bad way... thank you zalge, your doing us all a favor.
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Post by: mav on August 22, 2009, 12:24:09 pm
Quote from: "Asmo X"Dont try and transfer all the little details. They wont scale down. Trying this will ensure the sprite looks really fucking stupid.
This.
Your current portrait looks alright, very simple though. Anyway, good luck; keep at it.
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Post by: RolyTunedIn on August 22, 2009, 12:34:07 pm
there was a decent lulu sprite a couple post below cyberblades very own... http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/viewtop ... ight=#9633 (http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9633&highlight=#9633)
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Post by: Zalge on August 22, 2009, 12:37:55 pm
Well then. That works out perfectly. I guess Its just up to me to finish the portrait for it xD
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Post by: Asmo X on August 22, 2009, 12:38:14 pm
It's ok. I think Miroshi is like Mikemitchi. Scared of heavy shading.
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Post by: Zalge on August 22, 2009, 12:42:09 pm
The hair kinda throws me off... Its just the pony tail really, but it still a pretty large mistake. Some Lulu Fanart to prove my point: http://www.nettness.net/dollz/dollz/lulu_ffx.gif (http://www.nettness.net/dollz/dollz/lulu_ffx.gif)
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Post by: RolyTunedIn on August 22, 2009, 12:52:24 pm
i was looking at it again and it does need a little touch up... zalge, can i ask you for a favor? i was wondering if you dont mind it, could you help me on my portrait? i'm already done with outlines and color. its just that i suck at shading...
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Post by: Zalge on August 22, 2009, 01:08:45 pm
Funny you should mention that. I had actually saved it and attempted to mess with it a bit earlier. I didn't get much done. I noticed that it had room for more colors so I added one and shaded some of the hair. The fur collar is giving me some trouble, as is the front part of the hair, But I think Just just got an idea on how to make it not look so... flat.
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Post by: RolyTunedIn on August 22, 2009, 01:11:34 pm
yeah i limited the colors, but i pretty much just tried to get the basics down, which was outline and color... i really think there should be a spriting team, things will get done alot faster.
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Post by: Zalge on August 22, 2009, 01:20:05 pm
I did a little bit more work on it. The fur coat is going to give a lot of trouble... Unless you could take Gaffy's fur and use that. Its an idea, but not an easy one =P
Oh, and I took out the little blue color that was in his eye that from what I could see was only for that ONE spot... it just seemed unnecessary.
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Post by: RolyTunedIn on August 22, 2009, 01:23:29 pm
it looks alot better... but switching the fur is going to be pain lol.
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Post by: Zalge on August 22, 2009, 01:27:37 pm
Update on the first post, Second version of the Lulu portrait with the hair color not changed. Which should I use? Or should I try again?
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Post by: mav on August 22, 2009, 02:07:17 pm
The second portrait looks pretty good too, though there's something off with the shading on the right bang...though I can't put my finger on it...
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Post by: Zalge on August 22, 2009, 02:13:20 pm
Her right or our right?
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Post by: Luiakyn on August 22, 2009, 07:11:36 pm
I would say our right. I think it's the loners up north. They make the picture a little grainy.
Great work so far
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Post by: mav on August 22, 2009, 08:15:35 pm
Yeah, our right. The part of the face under that bang needs shading and I think you should add some shading to the right (heh, our right) on that bang as well. Right now it looks like it's not hanging over her hair, but it's some weird paste job.
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Post by: Zalge on August 22, 2009, 08:50:27 pm
Oh, yeah, I forgot to shade that xD whoooops
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Post by: RolyTunedIn on August 22, 2009, 11:34:03 pm
i think in the second portrait, "her" right bang is a little off...
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Post by: Mental_Gear on October 14, 2009, 11:06:00 am
necrobump
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Post by: Asmo X on October 14, 2009, 11:43:29 am
Don't necro pointless threads you halfwit.
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Post by: Mental_Gear on October 14, 2009, 06:52:50 pm
Some people would like a new Lulu sprite. Hence it isn't pointless.
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Post by: LastingDawn on October 14, 2009, 07:12:04 pm
Then give proper reason, don't just say "necrobump" it makes you look like a fool who lacks the thought process to say, "Is anyone working on a Lulu sprite? It would be a great addition, especially considering the great work on the Tidus sprite." Something that gives Reason.
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Post by: mav on October 14, 2009, 07:38:27 pm
Alright, that portrait needs a lot of work. Obviously you have to work within the confines of the color limits, but you need to do it well. If you want to get a good fur trim take it from the Helmetless Gafgarion on the custom sprites page. That way you can keep the standard portrait angle.
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Post by: dwib on October 14, 2009, 08:04:52 pm
Quote from: "Mental_Gear"necrobump
save that shit for the spam section. where you belong
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on October 14, 2009, 08:12:42 pm
The sprite and the portrait needs a lot of work, as everyone said. necrobump.
Is someone workin' on it? hehehe.
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Post by: Sephirot24 on October 14, 2009, 08:22:54 pm
That portrait can't be real... it looks nothing like Lulu. It's a fat man cosplaying Lulu at best.
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Post by: Saigas on October 14, 2009, 08:28:22 pm
@Sephirot24
If your comment was directed toward the other portrait of the guy in black that Zalge and Roly are discussing, I think that is something from the Naruto thread. Why they aren't discussing it in there is beyond me, though.
@ Zalge and Roly
Considering this thread here is in related to the topic of Lulu's sprite, you guys should probably take your discussion of that other portrait over to the Naruto thread.
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Post by: Sephirot24 on October 14, 2009, 08:42:36 pm
This one: (http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/8162/kazepor2trait.png)
Phewww... I thought someone just stabbed himself in the eye with a fork and decided THAT'd be a nice Lulu portrait.
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Post by: Zalge on October 14, 2009, 10:49:44 pm
Quote from: "Saigas"@Sephirot24
If your comment was directed toward the other portrait of the guy in black that Zalge and Roly are discussing, I think that is something from the Naruto thread. Why they aren't discussing it in there is beyond me, though.
@ Zalge and Roly
Considering this thread here is in related to the topic of Lulu's sprite, you guys should probably take your discussion of that other portrait over to the Naruto thread.
We were discussing it here because he asked for me to fix it up a bit... so I did, then I left it at that.
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Post by: RolyTunedIn on October 14, 2009, 11:51:31 pm
@ saigas you do realize that this is zalge's thread right?
@ scatttman i had a more updated portrait on your thread...
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Post by: LastingDawn on October 15, 2009, 04:33:40 pm
Deleting All Naruto dealings in this thread... if you want to talk about Naruto do it in it's Own Topic.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on October 16, 2009, 09:31:25 am
Yes, this topic is regarding on Lulu's remake portrait.
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on October 29, 2009, 08:18:46 am
The Lulu sprite i made was not completed. But i will continue working on it in December when i have a computer to work on it. My computer was killed by a virus XD so im saving my money to buy a laptop. That way i can continue the sprites i left unfinished
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on October 29, 2009, 08:34:12 am
0.o Oh my...so everything gone?? Can't repair or anything?
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on November 01, 2009, 07:02:30 pm
No, it can. Actually its being fixed now and i should have it back sometime this week. Luckily, my sprites are being salvaged ^-^
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 02, 2009, 11:33:50 am