Final Fantasy Hacktics

I think I posted this in wrong place. If I did can you put this Topic in spam section.

Purpose of this topic is just post game that you hate and and some people say it's a great game.

Games that I despise, but are still over rated somehow:

Final Fantasy XII(for bring not a true Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy XI(For being online game instead the RPG that we wanted(and also for being created just for money so Square-Enix can get money))
Final Fantasy X-2(Only good part of this game is that Logos and Paine are fucking badasses!)
Final Fantasy VIII(Go watch in spoony experiment a review of it and you know what I mean)
Sonic Heroes(for being one of THE MOST WORST SONIC GAMES EVER MADE!)
WOW(For being just stupid game that is just to make money for blizzhard(or how ever you pronounce it))
Call Of Duty 4(for giving as new genneration of noobs and to be very fucking overrated)
Every fucking Guitar Hero game or some same shit as that(for being harder playing a guitar).
Halo series(WAAAAYYYYY TOOO DAAAAMMMM BOOOORIIIINNNNGGG!!!)
Gears Of War(WTF IS UP WITH STUPIDEST CONTROLS EVER!)
Two newest Crash Bandicoot games.(They are just bad compared to old ones)
Runescape(You knew it was coming din't you?)
DragonFable(From great beta game and then turning to shit.
Mechquest(Why the hell everything cost so much(and being even worse then DragonFable))
AQ Worlds(Oh God, It's even worse then Runescape, so Its pretty fucking bad)


That's over from my part for now

You forgot Maplestory(Hit z... Hit ZZZZzzzzzzzzzz..............)

Heheh, the EXP curve in Maplestory is gay to say the least.


Used to play it but quit around 50, 10 hours to level up definitely isn't fun.

Quote from: "Shade"I think I posted this in wrong place. If I did can you put this Topic in spam section.

Purpose of this topic is just post game that you hate and and some people say it's a great game.

Games that I despise, but are still over rated somehow:

Final Fantasy XII(for bring not a true Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy XI(For being online game instead the RPG that we wanted(and also for being created just for money so Square-Enix can get money))
Final Fantasy X-2(Only good part of this game is that Logos and Paine are fucking badasses!)
Final Fantasy VIII(Go watch in spoony experiment a review of it and you know what I mean)
Sonic Heroes(for being one of THE MOST WORST SONIC GAMES EVER MADE!)
WOW(For being just stupid game that is just to make money for blizzhard(or how ever you pronounce it))
Call Of Duty 4(for giving as new genneration of noobs and to be very fucking overrated)
Every fucking Guitar Hero game or some same shit as that(for being harder playing a guitar).
Halo series(WAAAAYYYYY TOOO DAAAAMMMM BOOOORIIIINNNNGGG!!!)
Gears Of War(WTF IS UP WITH STUPIDEST CONTROLS EVER!)
Two newest Crash Bandicoot games.(They are just bad compared to old ones)
Runescape(You knew it was coming din't you?)
DragonFable(From great beta game and then turning to shit.
Mechquest(Why the hell everything cost so much(and being even worse then DragonFable))
AQ Worlds(Oh St. Ajora, It's even worse then Runescape, so Its pretty fucking bad)


That's over from my part for now

Matsuno Fanboy Rage...


So... because you don't like, that makes it "over rated" huh? What kind of logic is that? Also if you hadn't noticed Spoony is merely doing a satire of the game, he even says this on the First episode, to him the series didn't start doing poorly until FFX.

Oh, and I am sorry that you openly mock Matsuno's vision for FFXII, there was a reason he was brought in to be the head director of the game, because he makes unique and grand stories, with (dare I say....) Innovation?! If you can't respect a game that gets rid of most tedium and call it "over rated" and "not a true Final Fantasy" you would be right, Matsuno had a sweeping vision that only partially was carried out, levels weren't so important as the skills one had. That's how a game should be made! Yet so many people forget this...

I am sad to see that you can't respect Matsuno's final Ivalice masterpiece...

Guitar Hero so much; it's also one of the reasons the Guitar Zero South Park episode is one of my favorites.
Any MMORPG for taking more time to train in a fucking game than irl. THIS IS RETARDED.
FFTA. No, I'm not comparing it to FFT; it just sucks.
FFVII. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAIg5FYNqtg&fmt=22 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAIg5FYNqtg&fmt=22)
FFVIII. Orphans, time compression, GF, 'nough said.
FFX-2. I played the game through expecting some storyline; I was strongly deceived.

EDIT: About LD's comment, who the fuck cares if it looks like a older FF or not, FFT isn't nearly the same thing as other FFs and it's still one.

Quote from: "Aquilae"Heheh, the EXP curve in Maplestory is gay to say the least.

You think that's bad? Several years ago (man must've been like, 8 years ago) I played Graal Online. It started out as a nifty Zelda-ripoff MMO. You leveled up by completing dungeons, finding "hearts", swords and tools.

Then they came out with a sequel type game. They added a more "traditional" leveling up system: The required exp for each level was double the last. At level 1 it was 1000. Level 7 32000. Ect.
Each kill netted you ~25-50 exp.

Yeah... worst curve ever devised.

FF12 is the best normal FF precisely because it deviated from the (shitty) formula.

So am I the only one who liked FFVIII?  Sure it wasn't the best game, but it's not that bad, is it?

I like it only in a nostalgic sense. It was one of my first games ever so I still have those very fond memories of it. However, whenever I go back and try to play it I can't make it past the first disc because I really dislike a lot of it. Gameplay/character/storywise/etc.

I think that FF7 is over-hyped, not over-rated.

If you want me to talk about over-rated, let's talk about Kingdom Hearts. Oh, I can talk ALL DAY about Crapdom Hearts.

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Quote from: "Shade"I think I posted this in wrong place. If I did can you put this Topic in spam section.

Purpose of this topic is just post game that you hate and and some people say it's a great game.

Games that I despise, but are still over rated somehow:

Final Fantasy XII(for bring not a true Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy XI(For being online game instead the RPG that we wanted(and also for being created just for money so Square-Enix can get money))
Final Fantasy X-2(Only good part of this game is that Logos and Paine are fucking badasses!)
Final Fantasy VIII(Go watch in spoony experiment a review of it and you know what I mean)
Sonic Heroes(for being one of THE MOST WORST SONIC GAMES EVER MADE!)
WOW(For being just stupid game that is just to make money for blizzhard(or how ever you pronounce it))
Call Of Duty 4(for giving as new genneration of noobs and to be very fucking overrated)
Every fucking Guitar Hero game or some same shit as that(for being harder playing a guitar).
Halo series(WAAAAYYYYY TOOO DAAAAMMMM BOOOORIIIINNNNGGG!!!)
Gears Of War(WTF IS UP WITH STUPIDEST CONTROLS EVER!)
Two newest Crash Bandicoot games.(They are just bad compared to old ones)
Runescape(You knew it was coming din't you?)
DragonFable(From great beta game and then turning to shit.
Mechquest(Why the hell everything cost so much(and being even worse then DragonFable))
AQ Worlds(Oh St. Ajora, It's even worse then Runescape, so Its pretty fucking bad)


That's over from my part for now

Matsuno Fanboy Rage...


So... because you don't like, that makes it "over rated" huh? What kind of logic is that? Also if you hadn't noticed Spoony is merely doing a satire of the game, he even says this on the First episode, to him the series didn't start doing poorly until FFX.

Oh, and I am sorry that you openly mock Matsuno's vision for FFXII, there was a reason he was brought in to be the head director of the game, because he makes unique and grand stories, with (dare I say....) Innovation?! If you can't respect a game that gets rid of most tedium and call it "over rated" and "not a true Final Fantasy" you would be right, Matsuno had a sweeping vision that only partially was carried out, levels weren't so important as the skills one had. That's how a game should be made! Yet so many people forget this...

I am sad to see that you can't respect Matsuno's final Ivalice masterpiece...

It's not the levels in FFXII noooooo.... It's the fact that you need 100000 for one piece of a equiment in later game and they still give from every monster like 50-300 money per loot Item. It takes half hour just get one of these equiment. and I need buy them for hole party. I just skipped shop before just like hour ago in that game so I can give my guys a decent equiment. the fact if you level up enemies will raise a levels. So it's even harder get money from easier opponents, because now they are HARDER.

Then about FFVIII. It's silly. they had the balls to make story boring, junction system is one of the worst systems ever made. And fucking minigames, badly designed characters, after this said how in the name of god it has gotten on almost every sites that review's a game top 10 psx games?

I mean I can say thse games are overrated. I mean Final fantasy XII has gotten perfect score, whitch would mean it's perfect RPG whitch it's not!


Well Maplestory is on my opinion ok for the point ultil you get on second thingy at level 20? Or something, then it turns to shit.

Final Fantasy just has very retarted story if you think about it. I mean you chace this guy over half of the game without actually finding him(FAIL!). Ultil you get to the crater in start of CD 2.

Kingdom hearts is actually decent game. there is some flaws in it. Like camera, blinking eyes that don't look natural, fricking diffuculty spikes that are insane in extreme, riku is one of stupidest kids everseen(I mean come on! if someone unknown person woulda offered him a candy for coming in dark alley. You can guess what would happen.), over cast of disney characthers, and half of the magic and summons being almost useless(unlike KH2). that's  the wrong went thing, but there is alot of great things.

Hey whoa, FFVIII has the best card game by far.

Oh yeah it's great expect the fact AI is very cheap.
That's why I played on internet againts anothers.

Triple Triad is the shit though for sure. When I most recently tried to play through it I spent most of my time just playing cards again. Way more fun than the actual game

Shadow of the Colossus: Let's make a video game where you go from one boos to the other. Wouldn't be so bad if the difficulty didn't bounce around like a flubber sample. Also with a backdrop like that give me a bandit to kill everyonce in a while or I'm just gonna get bored before getting to the next boss.

Soul Calibur: Ok so it's a 3D fighting game but all the characters except for 2 can hit you even when you sidestep? WTF.

Red Faction: No big story, only innovation is the ability to break shit. I can do that in real life.

SOCOM: "Uhh guys stay low so we don't get spotted." Then one of the computers stands up in front of an enemy. Cover blown.

Also I like FFVIII very much though it might just be nostalgia talking.

Quote from: "akwikone"So am I the only one who liked FFVIII?  Sure it wasn't the best game, but it's not that bad, is it?

The only game worse than FF8 in the grand rankings is.... FF2j.  Everything else, including X2, is/was better.  Maybe not FF11, but I consider x2 more of a FF than 11, so.... *whistle*

As for me:

Earthbound.  It's dragon warrior 2 with SNES graphics and postmodern themes.  Whoopie.  It still sucks.

Breath of Fire 3.  Required too much grinding for me to actually enjoy the game.  Aside:  Dragon Quarter is sooooo damn awesome I want to mate it with FFT for cute little babies.

Legend of Legaia - The magic system was somewhat cool, but the up/left/right/down fighting system's appeal wore off VERY quickly.

Xenogears -- Repetive gameplay > Jesus the bunny on a cross for the -LAMBS-

Most RTS games -- I'm too much of a turn-based man.  Quick decision and time management skills aside, I've just never crested past the hotkey and quick command functions so I spend half the time that my base is getting raided figuring out how to deploy the defenses in the first place.

fuck you philsuave

gyigas rockz

Dartpaul, I love the sc series but 4 made me weep.

I loved Shadow of the Colossus while it lasted. First kill was so bittersweet. I nearly cried.

oh and Shale, is KH2 much better than 1? I particularly find combat dull and backtracking a pain.

I love Earthbound, but I'm not going to defend its boring battle system. It's the worst "mash A until things die" game I've ever played. Even it's predecessor for the NES was better.

And am I the only one who thought the junction/guardian force system was FF8's saving grace? I hated drawing out magic, the story, the characters, ect, but I really kinda liked the junctioning thing.


Anywho, I can't think of many truly "overrated" games. Most are popular for a reason.
The worst offender of being overrated, I think, would be the Sims. It's a virtual dollhouse.

QuoteThe worst offender of being overrated, I think, would be the Sims. It's a virtual dollhouse.

Funny I too hate the Sims yet I much enjoy Animal Crossing.

FFXII is my #3 favorite, right below FFVI and FFT.

I wouldn't say it's overrated at all, because a great majority of people in FF communities seem to despise XII. Coincidentally, a great majority of the population, particularly here in the US, is retarded and most of them think they've figured out the patterns of scratch tickets.

Also, the Kingdom Hearts games ONLY would have sucked if they didn't have bad-assed Disney worlds and characters. A bunch of sissy kids running around whining to FF characters would have been a collosal waste of money and time. A game that allowed us to revisit some of the greatest movies and characters of our childhood--well, my childhood at least, you damned kids--made the series amazing.

Nothing is cooler than hearing Donald Duck say "Oh no, it's Sephiroth!"

I hate the following games:

FFVIII



Other than that, I haven't played any Guitar Heroes or Haloes or S-Force Shooter Squadron-types or whatever. I don't like most video games.

Here are my gaming habits, in a nutshell:

75% = FFT

25% = NES classics, SNES classics, Genesis classics, Final Fantasies 1-12 (sans VIII, X-2 and XI) and the occasional Square side project. And the Bard's Tale. For the PS2. Cary Elwes did the voice of the Bard, and it was fucking hilarious.

Hate FFXI. Don't like any game I'm forced to spend continual amounts of money on to play, and I especially hate games that pass themselves of as part of a series while blatantly not. I would have been ok with this game and with FFXIII if they either were titled FFOnline and FFOnline2 respectively or if they had a single player mode. Fuck Square and their incessantly milking ways.

That said I like FFXII overall, but I wasn't a fan of the obviously MMO styled gameplay. Also,  the point in the story where Matsuno left Square is so glaringly obvious that it sickened me. And the patch job they did to finish the game was just pathetic. This game could have been so much better. It's a damn shame Matsuno wasn't around to finish it.

FFVIII is another that I liked but could have been so much better. The story was just week and Squall's an asshole. I would have like a game staring Laguna better.

Other than that, I hate pretty much all sports games. It's like realistic driving games. They're fucking pointless. If I want to play realistic football or drive a realistic car I'll fucking well go out and play real football and drive a real car. Fuck there are even places you can go race for real. If I'm gonna play a sports game it better damn well have mutants, robots, and zombies in it. And, if I'm gonna play a racing game, my vehicle better damn well have weapons and go 900 mph.

You don't want to play as Kobe Bryant and score 100 points with him alone? But yeah at the forced money to play. A lot of MMOs are "free", but in order to do shit you have to blow about 50 dollars.

For $15, you could buy two pizzas. Rent a couple movies. Or a month of playtime with an MMO.

You get quite a bit of bang for your buck with many pay-to-play services, assuming you enjoy the service they're offering anyway.

Bastard Poetry did you just say you like Bard's Tale!? OMG how did we not know that we had this in common. Such an incredible under rated game. Plus fucking hilarious. Though I will admit it gets a bit hard and level grinding I think and thus I haven't beaten it...

FF XII is awesome and it is sad it didn't reach it's full potential due to the change in directors, but I think that only affected story. Kingdom Hearts has some really good spots and I have actually beat both of them so that says something only slightly relating to their difficult. Xenogears is an amazing amazing game.

Vanya I'm with you 100% on the sports and racing games. Ever play Rollcage or Rollcage II for the PSX?

Games I hate that others like:
FFIX: Only FF game I honestly dislike. Possibly only because any game that requires you to equip a certain weapon to get a skill is super unimaginative.

FFTA Series: Oh wait this game does that too, way to ruin an amazing job wheel system and JP points. Assholes.

There are more I will think of them later.

I neither like that system, I mean it just blow's ass.

I played both Advance games and liked the Mission system. And nothing else.

@Cheetah: I read about rollcage, is it good?

Quote from: "Mental_Gear"I played both Advance games and liked the Mission system. And nothing else.

Much agreed. FFTA's missions > FFT's propositions. Everything else is either the same or worse.

QuoteThe worst offender of being overrated, I think, would be the Sims. It's a virtual dollhouse.

I actually liked it for a bit; but once I basically "solved" the game, it became a matter of just playing and going through the motions.  Rather boring, really.  But figuring out the solution is the fun part, imo.

@Vanya: As far as football games go the only one I play is Blitz 2. It is football without most of the retarded rules. Meaning half your team will be knocked out of the game for anything from a broken wrist to a collapsed skull. And if it racing we are looking at Midnight Club 3. Almost no realistic driving in that game. Want to make a left turn? Pop up onto your left wheels to change your momentum.  Other than that sports games are a pain in the ass.

Best sports game ever? Supersonic Acrobatic Rocket-Powered Battle-Cars. Four-aside footy + epic jumping cars = WIN

Mental Gear: Oh yeah either of the Rollcages are really good, the sense of speed is just mind boggling. Crazy hectic racing with exploding buildings and jumping 100s of feet upside down. Tis sweet.

FFTA's missions are very cool and definitely worth implementing in FFT...

I remember hearing about Rollcage, but I never played them. I'll them it a try.
My all time favorite is still Rally Cross (the first one, not the pussied out 2nd one!)!
The gravity in that game was just stupid funny and that's on the normal setting! The low-grav setting was just ridiculous!
And flipping the car back over after a rollover by shifting the passengers' weight back and forth was brilliant! LOL!
The best thing that game had going for it until Burn Out 2 was the suicide mode races with all your competitors going the opposite direction from you! Awesome crashes for the time.

The only recent sports game that was interesting to me at all was that Head Coach one since it isn't every day you get to coach a team.

I actually liked FF9 'cause it went back to basics in many of it's aspects.

Kingdom Hearts II sucked a big one.  I loved the first one though.

FFIX was fun, but I'll never play it again because of the blandest main character ever: Zidane.  Vivi = Awesome.  Steiner = Cool Enough.  Garnet = Cool Enough.  Amarant = Cool.  Eiko = Cool Enough.  Quina = Fmeh.  Zidane = Fun Blackhole.

And as for FFVII, I agree with whomever said it was overhyped but not overrated.  That game is amazing, but with a million people trying to shove how great it is down your throat, most people walk into it with a sour stomach.  And I'm still waiting on someone's reasons why FFVII is not awesome (I think it was either SentinelBlade or PX_Timefordeath).

FFTA2: The story was about how a kid had to have fun to solve all his problems. The story was worse and FFTA! Starting each battle with 0 MP. WTF. Hard mode isn't hard (unlike 1.3). WTF. That one time I missed 4 99% in a row and then the game got 3 15% in a row right after. The enemies not having to follow the law, even when it is super super gay, like the law is no missing and if you break the law you lose the battle, and you miss on a 99% chance. Or the mission where you have to target adjacent units or you fail, and then you crit so it knocks them back and you fail. Not starting with all jobs unlocked is kind of annoying, considering in 1.3 even if you unlock all jobs you still hurt yourself by being higher level. Finally, charmed units do not follow the laws, unlike in FFTA, and will go out of their way to break them.

I had a lot of fun playing FFVII, and that is what is ultimately the most important thing.  I'll admit that I thought Sephiroth was a fun villain to hate too.

Erm, I don't recall laws making you lose very many missions in FFTA2.  A vast majority of the time, laws can be completely ignored in that game.  The 0 MP is nothing when you consider the game added MP regen to everything.  You just had to plan your MP use more carefully instead of spam your best stuff right off the bat.  That or use some MP restorative setups to fuel your mages.The MP costs were dropped a significant amount to accommodate the change too.  The main story did indeed suck, but the side stories are some of the best side stories in the series in my opinion.  There was a larger variety of useful units than FFTA had, despite having a few stinkers of its own.  (Anything Seeq sucks unless you abuse reverse item X-potions.)  If you must complain about something, complain about the real issue, the time it takes to finally get some weapons in the store.  It certainly has its flaws, but it kicked FFTA's ass.

I can understand why people like Final Fantasy VI, but I can't stand it, personally.  I like being able to complete everything in the game and to make characters meet their full potentials.  FFVI has at least one permanently missable character, lots of missable Gao mimics, several missable good items, and I've never bothered to even attempt to plan out Magicite use for leveling even though it bothered me.  That game is all kinds of frustrating for me, and I don't want to have to glue my nose to a guide to make sure I don't miss anything.  At least the summon materia in FFVII were pretty noticeable if you kept your eyes peeled.

I'm not sure which I dislike more though, VI's missable stuff or X's tedium.  Getting/making the ultimate equipment in X was annoying as hell (never could get Kimarhi's or Lulu's, and I never bothered to get good at Blitzball), and tracking down all the monsters to create the challenge fights could get rather frustrating.  That's just the optional end of game stuff though, right?  Except I rather disliked the rest of the game as well.  The equipment might as well not have been customizable as it was a pain to get enough materials for stuff until end-game.  The boss fights were all either monotonous or games of Simon Says.  Overdrive the hell out of them was the way to kill most of it.  It was only slightly creative when the bosses started banishing your summons... except then ALL OF THEM started doing it.  So much for creativity.  Other than maybe some of the challenge fights you had to create by catching monsters, the only boss that actually took some brain power was Yunalesca.  Fun fight.  The rest of the bosses sucked.

I liked FFX-2's class system.  Playing around with Dark Knights and Alchemists was fun.  Navigating Sphere Grids was not, I'll admit, but I tended to just stick with the grid that had my favorite flat bonus and then just keep them whatever class I wanted them using.  Sphere Break was entertaining after I got the hang of it.  I'll agree that the story and choices really didn't live up to its in-game hype.  The difficulty was sadly sub-par too, until you get to the Via Infinito.  It had its good points and bad points, like most things do in my opinion.  It didn't just suck.  For something to truly suck, it should be at the point of not being playable, like FFTA comes pretty dang close to with the three laws, jail, and robbing you of your (potentially rare or one of) items.

The Fire Emblem and Shining Force games do not live up to their reputations.  Don't misunderstand.  They ARE, good... but they have more than their fair share of overhype.  I would not rank a single one of them among my most favorite games.

If everyone is in a love-hate relationship with a game, does it count even slightly?  I can't help but mention Prinny.  I hate it.  I love it.

I agree, the missable stuff in VI is very annoying, and the rages are downright impossible to get. It is like they put the Veldt there just to annoy you. I haven't seriously used Gau because of that. I'm not really that much of a completionist, I wouldn't bother to get every item or skill in the game. I don't think you need Magicite bonuses, the high-end spells and Ultima Weapon already do enough as it is.

Another thing - FF7 is well worth its PSN price, particularly because you can put it on PSP. Also, I wonder why I hate kingdom hearts but enjoy crisis core's combat when they're quite similar.

@ Silvas: I absolutely LOVED X's blitzball! One of my favourite minigames ever! Sphere break was really addictive in X-2 also. I don't know why but I couldn't stop playing it despite the fact it's really not at all profitable.

Would I be the only one thinking FF games are only hard if you 'make' them hard by equipping worse equipment, putting ATB speed to max, etc.? I only struggled at a couple points in X's story (Seymour on Gagazet mainly), only a rough patch in XII (rescuing Basch), and Crisis Core is quite easy. FFX-2, now...I beat all the final boss forms in 15 minutes, and Shuyin was piss easy. My girls had like 4K HP each and the most damage he could do to one was 500 with Terror of Zanarkand.

I played all Tactics Advance games and really liked Advance 2...I think that if square make another FFT they should keep the different races systems (having more jobs for each, needless to say), and the missions, and perhaps have most abilities learned via JP but a couple awesome ones per job via weapon learning. Having EVERY ability taught through weapons in the advance games was sometimes fun but your equipment choices were pretty much dictated by learning.

Some of the jobs were pathetic though. The Illusionists in Advance 1 were worthless, like 4 damage. And why the hell were all the archer abilities spread over 3 jobs?!

QuoteI haven't seriously used Gau because of that.

Honestly Stray Cat is all you need.

Good ole bugged stray cat.

Merit award/offering + tempest + stray cat = full screen clear of anything that doesn't absorb wind.

Well, I haven't played FFTA2, only a bit of FFTA, and I think if they're going to release another one, they should make the Job Points gaining similar to regular FFT where you gain it in battle instead of having to do missions over and over again to get them. They should also remove Judges or have one or two rules at most, I've heard that FFTA2's Judge system is pretty frustrating. In FFTA you could abuse
the laws and make some missions a joke, for example Hot Awakening at Roda Volcano is very easy if you ban Charm.

The FFTA2 laws often could be ignored.  I don't remember if law cards still exist though...  One law really isn't hard to deal with.  You had to either constantly deal (anti-)law cards or watch your every step in FFTA.

FFTA2 had no antilaw cards, and unless you were playing on hard there was practically no penalty for disobeying (as it's next to impossible to die on normal). The judge system was just stupid though, especially in 1 where laws rotated day by day, you could easily manipulate it.

Quote from: "Kuraudo Sutoraifu"Kingdom Hearts II sucked a big one.  I loved the first one though.

FFIX was fun, but I'll never play it again because of the blandest main character ever: Zidane.  Vivi = Awesome.  Steiner = Cool Enough.  Garnet = Cool Enough.  Amarant = Cool.  Eiko = Cool Enough.  Quina = Fmeh.  Zidane = Fun Blackhole.

And as for FFVII, I agree with whomever said it was overhyped but not overrated.  That game is amazing, but with a million people trying to shove how great it is down your throat, most people walk into it with a sour stomach.  And I'm still waiting on someone's reasons why FFVII is not awesome (I think it was either SentinelBlade or PX_Timefordeath).

It was me. its about 16,000 words right now, and about 35% done. Its gotten to the point ive added a table of contents, and submenus for most.

Teaser; TOC
Note that the ToC will change as i find more things to add, and a few will be reworded(i think "Chocobo Fuckin" is gonna get me flamed, to say the least). All of the contents have a sentence or two in them, but from top to bottom, ive only fully completed up to "intelligence required"

P.S. I totally agree with you on the FF9 part as well. Such insanely awesome(overall) cast of characters, but the main character just...makes it hard to enjoy everyone else.

Edit: The HTML formatting makes it hard to discern things in the TOC, edited for clarity.

Games I hated

FF8 - Only redeeming factor was the card game.
FFTA - Just plain old terrible. Everything pissed me off.
FFX-2 - Gah. Might as well watch paint dry. It would have a better story.
Kingdom Hearts series - the characters REALLY annoy me.
Guitar Hero - go play a real one.
Most FPS games I find pretty boring. Same for MMO's which focus on grinding (most of them).
Tekken series - It always feels too button mashy whenever I play.

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Quote from: "Kuraudo Sutoraifu"Kingdom Hearts II sucked a big one.  I loved the first one though.

FFIX was fun, but I'll never play it again because of the blandest main character ever: Zidane.  Vivi = Awesome.  Steiner = Cool Enough.  Garnet = Cool Enough.  Amarant = Cool.  Eiko = Cool Enough.  Quina = Fmeh.  Zidane = Fun Blackhole.

And as for FFVII, I agree with whomever said it was overhyped but not overrated.  That game is amazing, but with a million people trying to shove how great it is down your throat, most people walk into it with a sour stomach.  And I'm still waiting on someone's reasons why FFVII is not awesome (I think it was either SentinelBlade or PX_Timefordeath).

It was me. its about 16,000 words right now, and about 35% done. Its gotten to the point ive added a table of contents, and submenus for most.

Teaser; TOC

spoiler

Table of Contents:-------------------
   Story---------------------------
    Character Development----------
    Story Overview-----------------
    Pussy Villian------------------
   Graphics------------------------
    Key Points---------------------
     N64---------------------------
     Clipping----------------------
     Textures----------------------
     Animations--------------------
   Music---------------------------
    Composition(this ones a compliment)
    Quality------------------------
   Interpretation------------------
    Crisis Core--------------------
     Intillegence Required---------
   Fanboys-------------------------
    Oh Dear St. Ajora--------------------
     The Aeris Fanboys-------------
     The Tifa Fanboys--------------
   Fangirls------------------------
    Why the population dwindles----
     The Tifa Defenders------------
     The Sephiroth blind followers-
     The Cloud Lovers--------------
   Outrageous claims---------------
    Sidequests---------------------
    Aeris Revival------------------
    RedXIII & Aeris Test Tube Baby-
    Cloud & Tifa Sex Scandel-------
    Zack and Aeris Whorehouse------
   Redundant mechanics-------------
    Battle System------------------
    Chocobo Fuckin-----------------
    Materia------------------------
    Equipment----------------------
   Bugs----------------------------

Note that the ToC will change as i find more things to add, and a few will be reworded(i think "Chocobo Fuckin" is gonna get me flamed, to say the least). All of the contents have a sentence or two in them, but from top to bottom, ive only fully completed up to "intelligence required"

P.S. I totally agree with you on the FF9 part as well. Such insanely awesome(overall) cast of characters, but the main character just...makes it hard to enjoy everyone else.

Edit: The HTML formatting makes it hard to discern things in the TOC, edited for clarity.

I'm waiting for this too. It should make for a good debate that I'll actually join and not just read.

Im glad thats how you see it. I plan to give it its own topic, and then add rebuttles and disputes to the front page. Anything is up for agreement/disagreement as long as you have evidence/valid points.

One thing I do have to point out about FFXII:RW though.. Kytes is a total badass. I hated him in XII, but he definitely blossomed into a fine young MURDEROUS ALL-POWERFUL FUCKING SORCEROR in Revenant Wings.

I'd recommend trying a Solo Kytes playthrough.

One thing I do have to point out about FFXII:RW though.. Kytes is a total badass. I hated him in XII, but he definitely blossomed into a fine young MURDEROUS ALL-POWERFUL FUCKING SORCEROR in Revenant Wings.

I'd recommend trying a Solo Kytes playthrough.

One thing I do have to point out about FFXII:RW though.. Kytes is a total badass. I hated him in XII, but he definitely blossomed into a fine young MURDEROUS ALL-POWERFUL FUCKING SORCEROR in Revenant Wings.

I'd recommend trying a Solo Kytes playthrough.

bp, we are in an internets recession, and you, sir, are being wasteful.

Shame on you and your triple post!

BTW why did the normal site go down?

>_>

<_<

*nabs a revenant wings ROM*

These are strange times indeed, seeing that the damned message I failed to post three times did, in fact, post three times.

I'd go through and fix it, but I like the look of that carebear in EVIL TRIPLET FORM!

And if you deleted them, my post would make no sense.  Well, it would, but it would just be me telling you to get the hell off my internets which I do not want.  bp, you complete me, do not get off my internets.

I agree. They should have used non-unique monsters for Yahri(sp?) summons and neither the old Summon Monsters nor the Espers.
They aren't summons in the same sense as the ones in the rest of the series so that could account for a lot, but meh.
I would have been happy with just more classic monsters that didn't appear in FFXII.

Yeah, but you get Kytes from the beginning!

Really, that's all I have to offer. The game was a disappointment in many ways. I found it strangely addicting during my first playthrough of it, even though I knew it was too tedious/easy. There was something about sending an army of tiny cactii in to fire off a billion needles at each enemy, one at a time, that was satisfying. Afterwards, I found the replay value to be mehhh.

Quote from: "philsov"Earthbound.  It's dragon warrior 2 with SNES graphics and postmodern themes.  Whoopie.  It still sucks.

Poo pwns you.

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Quote from: "Aquilae"Heheh, the EXP curve in Maplestory is gay to say the least.

You think that's bad? Several years ago (man must've been like, 8 years ago) I played Graal Online. It started out as a nifty Zelda-ripoff MMO. You leveled up by completing dungeons, finding "hearts", swords and tools.

Then they came out with a sequel type game. They added a more "traditional" leveling up system: The required exp for each level was double the last. At level 1 it was 1000. Level 7 32000. Ect.
Each kill netted you ~25-50 exp.

Yeah... worst curve ever devised.

say waaat? you played Graal too? when it first started it was fun, but then they had to keep adding more stuff and make it complicated. I actually made some heads and a few of the bodies (like the one with the animated cape) (not the new version, the oldschool one.) but i mostly played on the German server after he main started adding too much crap

Graal's where I first used my name :P

I joined the party late. Well, that's not entirely true; I played graal classic when it was still being developed (and was free, kinda), but my internet sucked and it took from 30 seconds to a full 5 mins to load a single screen.  I stopped playing because of that. Then came back a few years later, did everything and left again because it was a ghost town :|

Chrono Trigger... The damn game is talked about like it was the greatest game ever during it's time when clearly an even better game was released before it on the same system...

...Final Fantasy IV That game, along with several others on the SNES, beats the crap out of CT in my opinion.

...I thought Chrono Trigger was on PS1, and the SNES one was Chrono Cross...

lol no it's the other way around

although chrono trigger is also a PS1 game, it was on the SNES first though

O I C

it wasnt called "graal classic" when i played, it was just the main server and like 2 other servers.

and it wasnt so laggy or anything because they hadn't added all the extra crap.

ah, lag, destroyer of the internet. Funilly enough, I can play full 4-player games of LittleBigPlanet on full levels and have next to no lag, same for a full game of WarHawk or Battlefield 1943, whereas Soul Calibur IV is a one-on-one fighter...same connection, same console, SHITLOADS of lag AND framerate issues.

I tried to play one of the Xenosagas....too boring.... :evil:

how do you add one of those faces for your avatar?
I want one sooo bad!!1

Quote from: "Twillbunny"how do you add one of those faces for your avatar?
I want one sooo bad!!1

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"And every time I tried to play the playstaion 2 final fantasies,I'd either lose it or it would get messed up!!!"

What do you mean by 'it would get messed up'?

By the way, you losing a disc doesn't affect the game's quality.