Title: What is love?
Post by: SickBastard on June 04, 2009, 02:24:19 pm
Post by: SickBastard on June 04, 2009, 02:24:19 pm
What is it and what does it encompass? Is it a symbol? Perhaps a simple emoticon or a phrase?
I percieve love as when I wake up deep inside my wife's vagina.
I percieve love as when I wake up deep inside my wife's vagina.
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Post by: Zozma on June 04, 2009, 02:34:50 pm
Post by: Zozma on June 04, 2009, 02:34:50 pm
theres no such thing as love.
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Post by: Ant on June 04, 2009, 03:54:02 pm
Post by: Ant on June 04, 2009, 03:54:02 pm
BABY DON'T HURT ME
DON'T HURT ME
NO MO'
DON'T HURT ME
NO MO'
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Post by: philsov on June 04, 2009, 03:59:09 pm
Post by: philsov on June 04, 2009, 03:59:09 pm
(http://www.tulane.edu/~tuva/pictures/Date%20Auction/lsu4.jpg)
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Post by: Dokurider on June 04, 2009, 04:52:29 pm
Post by: Dokurider on June 04, 2009, 04:52:29 pm
Quote from: "Ant"BABY DON'T HURT ME
DON'T HURT ME
NO MO'
GODDAMNIT
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WAS IN MY HEAD WHEN I CAME IN HERE
STOP READING MY MIND DEMONIC BABY
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Post by: DarthPaul on June 04, 2009, 05:55:25 pm
Post by: DarthPaul on June 04, 2009, 05:55:25 pm
As Zozma stated love does not truly exist. It is just a perceived fantasy of a feeble human mind seeking acceptance from others.
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Post by: akwikone on June 04, 2009, 06:15:24 pm
Post by: akwikone on June 04, 2009, 06:15:24 pm
my opinion on love is something that is built as you are with someone
this means I do not be leave in "love at first sight", but more lust at first sight
this means I do not be leave in "love at first sight", but more lust at first sight
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Post by: DarthPaul on June 04, 2009, 06:17:13 pm
Post by: DarthPaul on June 04, 2009, 06:17:13 pm
Man is just an animal, trying to kill time through his days.
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Post by: philsov on June 04, 2009, 06:29:59 pm
Post by: philsov on June 04, 2009, 06:29:59 pm
DP, you are both way too sheltered and young to be this cynical.
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Post by: DarthPaul on June 04, 2009, 06:53:40 pm
Post by: DarthPaul on June 04, 2009, 06:53:40 pm
You say that as if you have read a biography on me. All I know is that people use "love" to get what the want from you: friends, parents, siblings. It's all the same in my book.
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Post by: Kuraudo Sutoraifu on June 04, 2009, 07:16:33 pm
Post by: Kuraudo Sutoraifu on June 04, 2009, 07:16:33 pm
Quote from: "darthpaul"All I know is that people use "love" to get what the want from you: friends, parents, siblings. It's all the same in my book.
Ouch. That doesn't sound like any form of love I've heard of. Love is not a method of procurement from others as you have said. If someone forces you to do something because "if you love me you'll do x", then that is not love. Love is altruistic. It should not require anyone to do things for it. Conditional love then does not exist, only unconditional love. If love is not unconditional, it is not love.
Oh... and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zlViU5P ... L&index=25 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zlViU5PBPY&feature=PlayList&p=DDB306B857CD1B88&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=25)
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Post by: DarthPaul on June 04, 2009, 07:23:12 pm
Post by: DarthPaul on June 04, 2009, 07:23:12 pm
Well until I find this unconditional love I cannot believe in it's existence can I?
Until such a day all I can say is that there is no such thing as a relationship without ulterior motives.
Until such a day all I can say is that there is no such thing as a relationship without ulterior motives.
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Post by: philsov on June 04, 2009, 07:38:39 pm
Post by: philsov on June 04, 2009, 07:38:39 pm
QuoteWell until I find this unconditional love I cannot believe in it's existence can I?
Ever seen your brain? Does it exist?
To tell everyone that any unconditional love they have both given and received is false takes a metric asston of proof. To have met someone who has experienced or caused such emotion and action is sufficient proof in its existence. It isn't required that you yourself directly observe or participate in unconditional love for it to exist.
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Post by: Kuraudo Sutoraifu on June 04, 2009, 07:40:03 pm
Post by: Kuraudo Sutoraifu on June 04, 2009, 07:40:03 pm
@the ph33rbot:
Rock on. I can cope with you saying that you don't believe in the existence of love. I hope someday that you do find love though, and I don't necessarily mean recieving it. To be the one giving the love is an awesome role to be in. To truly care for someone without needing/wanting anything in return from is truly amazing.
Rock on. I can cope with you saying that you don't believe in the existence of love. I hope someday that you do find love though, and I don't necessarily mean recieving it. To be the one giving the love is an awesome role to be in. To truly care for someone without needing/wanting anything in return from is truly amazing.
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Post by: akwikone on June 04, 2009, 07:44:57 pm
Post by: akwikone on June 04, 2009, 07:44:57 pm
did you have a bad day Darthpaul, you seem a bit off?
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Post by: DarthPaul on June 04, 2009, 07:46:00 pm
Post by: DarthPaul on June 04, 2009, 07:46:00 pm
Funny thing is I have seen my brain before. Through a mirror of course(brain surgery for those of you who are slow on the upkeep).
I am sorry on the regards that I have never seen true love, or someone who has caused this emotion(except on t.v. dramas which is well drama). My life is no where near sheltered, it is simply that I have never seen anything happen without a motive behind it.
Even my best friend is only going out with his girlfriend for his own benefit. And yes I believe happiness to be a benefit from a relationship. My parents are married so that they have the financial benefits, not out of love.
I will believe it when I see it. Missouri blood talking right there.
EDIT: @Akwikone, yes my day has been on the wrong foot actually.
I am sorry on the regards that I have never seen true love, or someone who has caused this emotion(except on t.v. dramas which is well drama). My life is no where near sheltered, it is simply that I have never seen anything happen without a motive behind it.
Even my best friend is only going out with his girlfriend for his own benefit. And yes I believe happiness to be a benefit from a relationship. My parents are married so that they have the financial benefits, not out of love.
I will believe it when I see it. Missouri blood talking right there.
EDIT: @Akwikone, yes my day has been on the wrong foot actually.
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Post by: Kuraudo Sutoraifu on June 04, 2009, 07:52:38 pm
Post by: Kuraudo Sutoraifu on June 04, 2009, 07:52:38 pm
Quote from: "darthpaul"I will believe it when I see it. Missouri blood talking right there.
A fellow Show-Me brother, eh?
While I agree that happiness is a potential benefit in a relationship (along with security, validation, various forms of affection), that does not mean that it is always a motivator. Just because x causes y doesn't mean that y is the end goal. x (which in our case is love) can be the means and the end.
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Post by: DarthPaul on June 04, 2009, 08:02:11 pm
Post by: DarthPaul on June 04, 2009, 08:02:11 pm
Yup a Show-Me brother.
And maybe your right, I dunno. Maybe love was ruined for me by experience and over thinking.
And maybe your right, I dunno. Maybe love was ruined for me by experience and over thinking.
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Post by: Dome on June 04, 2009, 08:03:39 pm
Post by: Dome on June 04, 2009, 08:03:39 pm
Tits
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Post by: philsov on June 04, 2009, 08:08:48 pm
Post by: philsov on June 04, 2009, 08:08:48 pm
Quote from: "darthpaul"And maybe your right, I dunno. Maybe love was ruined for me by experience and over thinking.
Which makes you cynical and jaded, and thus suspect to all other advances, which makes you more cynical and jaded, which causes you to turn inward even more, etcetcetc.
It's a nasty loop, but suffice to say it's only "ruined" if you want it to be. You have the power to change that.
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Post by: Pickle Girl Fanboy on June 04, 2009, 08:15:51 pm
Post by: Pickle Girl Fanboy on June 04, 2009, 08:15:51 pm
You know that one scene in Fight Club, where Tyler is in the bath and Jack is holding a towel to his bleeding face, and Tyler says something like, "do we really need another woman?" That scene made me think, "If I always attract manipulative cunts and nut jobs, it must be something I'm doing. The only common denominator in all my failed relationships is me."
So I'm not looking for love, thinking about love, or allowing myself to get attached to anyone. I'm focusing on ME; I can't fix another person, but I can fix myself. Maybe if I improve myself enough, I'll attract women I like.
Love, for me, is finding someone whose flaws I can tolerate and who can tolerate mine.
DP, I'm curious, what do you think beauty is? A perfectly proportioned form? Something broken and rebuilt into something stronger? I'm talking abstracts here.
So I'm not looking for love, thinking about love, or allowing myself to get attached to anyone. I'm focusing on ME; I can't fix another person, but I can fix myself. Maybe if I improve myself enough, I'll attract women I like.
Love, for me, is finding someone whose flaws I can tolerate and who can tolerate mine.
DP, I'm curious, what do you think beauty is? A perfectly proportioned form? Something broken and rebuilt into something stronger? I'm talking abstracts here.
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Post by: DarthPaul on June 04, 2009, 08:16:43 pm
Post by: DarthPaul on June 04, 2009, 08:16:43 pm
To change I would have to lie to myself until I believed it. I may be better off but still I would (at least feel) like I deceiving myself.
I may be cynical, but at least I am true to myself which seems sad.
I may be cynical, but at least I am true to myself which seems sad.
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Post by: Pickle Girl Fanboy on June 04, 2009, 08:24:48 pm
Post by: Pickle Girl Fanboy on June 04, 2009, 08:24:48 pm
Am I ever going to gain 15 lbs of muscle? Probably not, considering my frame. But lying to myself to stay motivated and follow a regimen is undoubtedly good for me.
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Post by: Archael on June 04, 2009, 08:29:51 pm
Post by: Archael on June 04, 2009, 08:29:51 pm
Quote from: "philsov"Quote from: "darthpaul"And maybe your right, I dunno. Maybe love was ruined for me by experience and over thinking.
To tell everyone that any unconditional love they have both given and received is false takes a metric asston of proof. To have met someone who has experienced or caused such emotion and action is sufficient proof in its existence. It isn't required that you yourself directly observe or participate in unconditional love for it to exist.
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Which makes you cynical and jaded, and thus suspect to all other advances, which makes you more cynical and jaded, which causes you to turn inward even more, etcetcetc.
It's a nasty loop, but suffice to say it's only "ruined" if you want it to be. You have the power to change that.
^ this
the fact that DP has not experienced unconditional love says nothing about its existence or non-existence
you are smart enough to know this DP
I hope you find unconditional love in your lifetime DP, and that you are smart enough to open up your shell for it to develop into something nice
like philsov said, if you close yourself off, you'll never find it for obvious reasons, but don't think for a second that your experience necessarily = everyone else's
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Post by: DarthPaul on June 04, 2009, 08:36:51 pm
Post by: DarthPaul on June 04, 2009, 08:36:51 pm
..........Well I guess you make a point Voldemort...
@death is the road to awe My thoughts on beauty in a human are based solely on the persons actions and attitude.
@death is the road to awe My thoughts on beauty in a human are based solely on the persons actions and attitude.
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Post by: Zozma on June 04, 2009, 08:45:38 pm
Post by: Zozma on June 04, 2009, 08:45:38 pm
hah
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Post by: DarthPaul on June 04, 2009, 08:46:34 pm
Post by: DarthPaul on June 04, 2009, 08:46:34 pm
Quote from: "Zozma"hah
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Post by: Pickle Girl Fanboy on June 04, 2009, 08:49:09 pm
Post by: Pickle Girl Fanboy on June 04, 2009, 08:49:09 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsCXZczTQXo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsCXZczTQXo)
Reminds me of Castlevania.
Reminds me of Castlevania.
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Post by: Zozma on June 04, 2009, 08:50:53 pm
Post by: Zozma on June 04, 2009, 08:50:53 pm
its just a vague word that's used to give a simple answer about ones feelings towards someone else, different for each person i guess and easier to say then "i care for you a lot"
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Post by: DarthPaul on June 04, 2009, 08:53:17 pm
Post by: DarthPaul on June 04, 2009, 08:53:17 pm
Quote from: "Zozma"its just a vague word that's used to give a simple answer about ones feelings towards someone else, different for each person i guess and easier to say then "i care for you a lot"
So you think the word love is a simplification of a more accurate phrase.
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Post by: Zozma on June 04, 2009, 08:57:56 pm
Post by: Zozma on June 04, 2009, 08:57:56 pm
yeah
i trust you, i really care for you, damn you're sexy, i want to spend time with you, etc etc all crammed together.
but i guess theres some shit in there too...
"i hate this about you but the above stuff outweighs that" etc...
i trust you, i really care for you, damn you're sexy, i want to spend time with you, etc etc all crammed together.
but i guess theres some shit in there too...
"i hate this about you but the above stuff outweighs that" etc...
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Post by: Algus on June 04, 2009, 09:17:11 pm
Post by: Algus on June 04, 2009, 09:17:11 pm
hey Zozma who are you talking to ? Dathpaul or Dead Is The Road To Awe ?
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Post by: DarthPaul on June 04, 2009, 09:20:27 pm
Post by: DarthPaul on June 04, 2009, 09:20:27 pm
Oh shit Algus is has come back from hell......again.
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Post by: Zozma on June 04, 2009, 09:23:10 pm
Post by: Zozma on June 04, 2009, 09:23:10 pm
!!!! w-what??? omg a real sentence from YOU, Algus!? *looks out the window and sees that pigs are flying* then *turns on the tv to hear a news report that the earth's insides, hell, has frozen over*
well anyway, to answer... not necessarily either one. more like going back on my initial statement of "there is no such thing as love" , after listening to everyones comments, and explaining that its not really something specific but i can't argue that it exists in the form of a combination of other feelings which can even include a few negative ones that get outweighed.
well anyway, to answer... not necessarily either one. more like going back on my initial statement of "there is no such thing as love" , after listening to everyones comments, and explaining that its not really something specific but i can't argue that it exists in the form of a combination of other feelings which can even include a few negative ones that get outweighed.
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Post by: DarthPaul on June 04, 2009, 09:25:28 pm
Post by: DarthPaul on June 04, 2009, 09:25:28 pm
Don't forget the fat ladies singing on every corner in every city on the planet.
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Post by: Algus on June 04, 2009, 09:36:08 pm
Post by: Algus on June 04, 2009, 09:36:08 pm
Quote from: "darthpaul"Oh shit Algus is has come back from hell......again.
What!!!
I'll burn your soul with my Dark Holy.... prepare to die!!!!muahahaha!!!!
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Post by: DarthPaul on June 04, 2009, 09:41:23 pm
Post by: DarthPaul on June 04, 2009, 09:41:23 pm
Quotehell, has frozen over
Odd enough the first mention of hell, in Inferno, has the innermost circle of hell being Cocytus the lake of ice.
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Post by: Algus on June 04, 2009, 09:45:43 pm
Post by: Algus on June 04, 2009, 09:45:43 pm
Quote from: "darthpaul"Odd enough the first mention of hell, in Inferno, has the innermost circle of hell being Cocytus the lake of ice.
What !? I never hear about that. Lake of Ice ?
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Post by: Zozma on June 04, 2009, 09:48:34 pm
Post by: Zozma on June 04, 2009, 09:48:34 pm
d00d! its the lake of ice, c'mon! e'erbody knows that!
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Post by: Algus on June 04, 2009, 09:57:37 pm
Post by: Algus on June 04, 2009, 09:57:37 pm
I know about the lake of ice, but is that true I mean the lake of ice has in the innermost circle of hell.
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Post by: DarthPaul on June 04, 2009, 10:04:30 pm
Post by: DarthPaul on June 04, 2009, 10:04:30 pm
Things are never as bad as they seem to the pessimist and never as good as they seem to the optimist.
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Post by: SickBastard on June 05, 2009, 09:17:19 am
Post by: SickBastard on June 05, 2009, 09:17:19 am
Definetely not the way I expected and hoped this topic would go but all the same.....
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Post by: Xifanie on June 05, 2009, 11:56:08 am
Post by: Xifanie on June 05, 2009, 11:56:08 am
love = more time before the first fuck
it's not more complicated than that
it's not more complicated than that
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Post by: Redux on June 05, 2009, 03:21:25 pm
Post by: Redux on June 05, 2009, 03:21:25 pm
Quote from: "Zodiac"love = more time before the first fuckZodiac seems to be quite disillutioned. Hehe. In some ways though i concede that you are right about it.
it's not more complicated than that
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Post by: Ant on June 07, 2009, 07:15:14 am
Post by: Ant on June 07, 2009, 07:15:14 am
Quote from: "Dome"TitsWell played, sir.
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Post by: Archael on June 07, 2009, 09:49:31 am
Post by: Archael on June 07, 2009, 09:49:31 am
Quote from: "Zozma"!!!! w-what??? omg a real sentence from YOU, Algus!? *looks out the window and sees that pigs are flying* then *turns on the tv to hear a news report that the earth's insides, hell, has frozen over*
the earth's insides isn't hell you bible thumping retard
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Post by: Redux on June 07, 2009, 10:13:05 am
Post by: Redux on June 07, 2009, 10:13:05 am
Quote from: "Voldemort"But it is hot as hell Voldemort. The real hell is a metaphysical hell imagine by people to escape from by doing "good" deeds.Quote from: "Zozma"!!!! w-what??? omg a real sentence from YOU, Algus!? *looks out the window and sees that pigs are flying* then *turns on the tv to hear a news report that the earth's insides, hell, has frozen over*
the earth's insides isn't hell you bible thumping retard
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Post by: Kuraudo Sutoraifu on June 07, 2009, 10:47:58 am
Post by: Kuraudo Sutoraifu on June 07, 2009, 10:47:58 am
Quote from: "Voldemort"the earth's insides isn't hell you bible thumping retard
People have a ton of misconceptions on what the Bible says, so why shouldn't they have misconceptions on hell?
Most pre-round earth religions at some point equated hell (tartarus, gahenna, etc.) was below the flat earth and heaven was above. Zozma is just stuck in that era.
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Post by: Archael on June 07, 2009, 11:32:06 am
Post by: Archael on June 07, 2009, 11:32:06 am
it's 2009 bro, wake up
we KNOW what's in the center of the earth, this is not a matter of opinion
"hot as hell" is a valid reference
"hot as hell, that is under the earth" is not
and by extension this isn't either
"the earth's insides" lol as if this was common knowledge!!
we KNOW what's in the center of the earth, this is not a matter of opinion
"hot as hell" is a valid reference
"hot as hell, that is under the earth" is not
and by extension this isn't either
Quoteto hear a news report that the earth's insides, hell, has frozen over
"the earth's insides" lol as if this was common knowledge!!
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Post by: DarthPaul on June 07, 2009, 11:45:02 am
Post by: DarthPaul on June 07, 2009, 11:45:02 am
I'm pretty sure Zozma was just making a joke and he was trying to make it funny, therefore he didn't think it through.
I've made the mistake of combining the two. What makes that worse is the closest religion I am too, doesn't believe in hell or The devil.
I've made the mistake of combining the two. What makes that worse is the closest religion I am too, doesn't believe in hell or The devil.
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Post by: Redux on June 07, 2009, 05:58:19 pm
Post by: Redux on June 07, 2009, 05:58:19 pm
Quote from: "darthpaul"I'm pretty sure Zozma was just making a joke and he was trying to make it funny, therefore he didn't think it through.One could argue religion is merely man's attempt to justify and give importance/ meaning to his actions or beliefs? Granted i believe complete atheists are being a bit arrogant. To say that there is no source for all things in a wold where every other act of creation require energy and mass means something, no matter how far back or far forward in time it is or was came into being without requirements and is as such the basic identity of a "God" something that was not created from anything else, yet impacts the universe and creates within it, directly or indirectly.
I've made the mistake of combining the two. What makes that worse is the closest religion I am too, doesn't believe in hell or The devil.
But i digress.
TLDR, Organized religion is man maknig God. True god is most likely beyond human comprehension. Atheists worship no god like believers worship god and OH GOD PHILOSOPHIC DETOUR!
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Post by: DarthPaul on June 07, 2009, 06:03:55 pm
Post by: DarthPaul on June 07, 2009, 06:03:55 pm
Quote from: "Redux"One could argue religion is merely man's attempt to justify and give importance/ meaning to his actions or beliefs? Granted i believe complete atheists are being a bit arrogant. To say that there is no source for all things in a wold where every other act of creation require energy and mass means something, no matter how far back or far forward in time it is or was came into being without requirements and is as such the basic identity of a "St. Ajora" something that was not created from anything else, yet impacts the universe and creates within it, directly or indirectly.
But i digress.
This is why I am an agnostic over an atheist. I can't say for sure till I see the evidence, and frankly there is not enough evidence to prove or disprove most religions.
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Post by: Redux on June 07, 2009, 06:06:03 pm
Post by: Redux on June 07, 2009, 06:06:03 pm
Quote from: "darthpaul"Personally i am a deist but ive been looknig in to the ideas of more liberal gnosticism lately.Quote from: "Redux"One could argue religion is merely man's attempt to justify and give importance/ meaning to his actions or beliefs? Granted i believe complete atheists are being a bit arrogant. To say that there is no source for all things in a wold where every other act of creation require energy and mass means something, no matter how far back or far forward in time it is or was came into being without requirements and is as such the basic identity of a "St. Ajora" something that was not created from anything else, yet impacts the universe and creates within it, directly or indirectly.
But i digress.
This is why I am an agnostic over an atheist. I can't say for sure till I see the evidence, and frankly there is not enough evidence to prove or disprove most religions.
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Post by: philsov on June 08, 2009, 05:40:49 pm
Post by: philsov on June 08, 2009, 05:40:49 pm
Quote from: "darthpaul"This is why I am an agnostic over an atheist. I can't say for sure till I see the evidence, and frankly there is not enough evidence to prove or disprove most religions.
Quote from: "darthpaul"As Zozma stated love does not truly exist. It is just a perceived fantasy of a feeble human mind seeking acceptance from others.
I will believe it when I see it. Missouri blood talking right there.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
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Post by: Ant on June 08, 2009, 06:42:40 pm
Post by: Ant on June 08, 2009, 06:42:40 pm
I don't understand the claim that "love" doesn't exist. I can understand claiming that one does not feel it, but to claim that it's totally nonexistent seems a bit much.
When the term is being used correctly, it's definitely describing an extant emotional/physical state. Being an emotion, I don't think that requiring it to be outwardly quantifiable or universally applicable is fair, exactly.
To me, it seems identical to someone claiming not to believe in anger, because they've never been angry. If someone made this claim, it would appear to be utterly ridiculous (granted, anger is a more simple emotion, so the comparison may not be perfect).
Even if it's an "illusion" or self-delusion, it exists as soon as it's believed and felt. No other emotion seems to be held to this standard of scrutiny for existence.
When the term is being used correctly, it's definitely describing an extant emotional/physical state. Being an emotion, I don't think that requiring it to be outwardly quantifiable or universally applicable is fair, exactly.
To me, it seems identical to someone claiming not to believe in anger, because they've never been angry. If someone made this claim, it would appear to be utterly ridiculous (granted, anger is a more simple emotion, so the comparison may not be perfect).
Even if it's an "illusion" or self-delusion, it exists as soon as it's believed and felt. No other emotion seems to be held to this standard of scrutiny for existence.
tl;dr
BABY DON'T HURT ME
BABY DON'T HURT ME
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Post by: Redux on June 09, 2009, 07:26:33 am
Post by: Redux on June 09, 2009, 07:26:33 am
Quote from: "Ant"I don't understand the claim that "love" doesn't exist. I can understand claiming that one does not feel it, but to claim that it's totally nonexistent seems a bit much.In the relative world of humaninty and human perception, feeling is everything, so i suppose ant is correct. On a relative scale felt = exists, illusion or not.
When the term is being used correctly, it's definitely describing an extant emotional/physical state. Being an emotion, I don't think that requiring it to be outwardly quantifiable or universally applicable is fair, exactly.
To me, it seems identical to someone claiming not to believe in anger, because they've never been angry. If someone made this claim, it would appear to be utterly ridiculous (granted, anger is a more simple emotion, so the comparison may not be perfect).
Even if it's an "illusion" or self-delusion, it exists as soon as it's believed and felt. No other emotion seems to be held to this standard of scrutiny for existence.
tl;dr
BABY DON'T HURT ME
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Post by: Archael on June 09, 2009, 08:10:16 am
Post by: Archael on June 09, 2009, 08:10:16 am
Quote from: "philsov"Quote from: "darthpaul"This is why I am an agnostic over an atheist. I can't say for sure till I see the evidence, and frankly there is not enough evidence to prove or disprove most religions.Quote from: "darthpaul"As Zozma stated love does not truly exist. It is just a perceived fantasy of a feeble human mind seeking acceptance from others.
I will believe it when I see it. Missouri blood talking right there.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
lmao
nice catch there
@ Ant; you are correct
the chemicals responsible for the feeling humans feel when they are in "love" is very real indeed
love does exist, just as much as anger, depression, and the rest
[X definition of perfect platonic love] might not exist, though, and is another question altogether
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Post by: Xifanie on June 09, 2009, 04:54:38 pm
Post by: Xifanie on June 09, 2009, 04:54:38 pm
i ♥ u archy
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Post by: SilvasRuin on June 10, 2009, 10:33:01 pm
Post by: SilvasRuin on June 10, 2009, 10:33:01 pm
Hell froze over a very long time ago if you want to believe Dante.
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Post by: Redux on June 11, 2009, 10:17:19 am
Post by: Redux on June 11, 2009, 10:17:19 am
Quote from: "SilvasRuin"Hell froze over a very long time ago if you want to believe Dante.I always thought suicides encased in ice was nice touch in the center of Hell hehe.
