Title: Playing FF8 for the first time
Post by: Smitson on April 01, 2009, 09:29:31 pm
Post by: Smitson on April 01, 2009, 09:29:31 pm
I love how big of a dick Selifer is to Zell hahaha.
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Post by: Asmo X on April 01, 2009, 09:30:25 pm
Post by: Asmo X on April 01, 2009, 09:30:25 pm
Play a good game instead
Title: Re: Playing FF8 for the first time
Post by: Archael on April 01, 2009, 09:30:35 pm
Post by: Archael on April 01, 2009, 09:30:35 pm
Quote from: "Smitson"I love big of dick
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Post by: tithin on April 01, 2009, 09:48:00 pm
Post by: tithin on April 01, 2009, 09:48:00 pm
homoerotic pish
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Post by: Smitson on April 01, 2009, 10:07:54 pm
Post by: Smitson on April 01, 2009, 10:07:54 pm
Whats wrong with it Asmo? It's certainly better then the likes of 2 or 3.
Arch, i'm just wondering why these things cross your mind? You got a secret little obsession you wanna share with us ?
Arch, i'm just wondering why these things cross your mind? You got a secret little obsession you wanna share with us ?
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Post by: Archael on April 01, 2009, 10:14:49 pm
Post by: Archael on April 01, 2009, 10:14:49 pm
Quote from: "Smitson"Arch, i'm just wondering why these things cross your mind? You got a secret little obsession you wanna share with us ?
yes, actually
you figured me out
I love giant of penis
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Post by: Smitson on April 01, 2009, 10:16:13 pm
Post by: Smitson on April 01, 2009, 10:16:13 pm
Quote from: "Voldemort"Quote from: "Smitson"Arch, i'm just wondering why these things cross your mind? You got a secret little obsession you wanna share with us ?
yes, actually
you figured me out
I love giant of penis
I'm still curious about the '' of''. Is it a special kind of penis? An extra large one? Or is it more of a chode?
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Post by: philsov on April 01, 2009, 10:25:12 pm
Post by: philsov on April 01, 2009, 10:25:12 pm
Quote from: "Smitson"Whats wrong with it Asmo? It's certainly better then the likes of 2 or 3.
No, 3's actually better.
2 is the only FF worse than 8.
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Post by: Xifanie on April 01, 2009, 11:34:26 pm
Post by: Xifanie on April 01, 2009, 11:34:26 pm
Personally, I think they're on a tie, and that Mystic Quest IS worse.
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Post by: akwikone on April 02, 2009, 12:04:07 am
Post by: akwikone on April 02, 2009, 12:04:07 am
X-2, ok gameplay, sucky story, DOC, exact oposite of X-2, VIII was pretty good imo, it has a good story and reminds me 1.3 in the fact the enemoes level with you.
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Post by: Kaijyuu on April 02, 2009, 12:45:39 am
Post by: Kaijyuu on April 02, 2009, 12:45:39 am
...Mystic Quest is better than like, half of the numbered ones.
8 is definitely the worst I think.
8 is definitely the worst I think.
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Post by: dwib on April 02, 2009, 01:00:50 am
Post by: dwib on April 02, 2009, 01:00:50 am
i loved 8 personally. i thought squall was an excellent main character and he is the main reason i play that game
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Post by: FFMaster on April 02, 2009, 01:20:00 am
Post by: FFMaster on April 02, 2009, 01:20:00 am
I hated 8 for its battle system. Same with 2. They are much too abusable.
Everyone probably knows that I am a battle nut by now. Which is why I like FFT the best. FFTA, why didn't your battle system be as good as FFT.
Everyone probably knows that I am a battle nut by now. Which is why I like FFT the best. FFTA, why didn't your battle system be as good as FFT.
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Post by: Smitson on April 02, 2009, 02:08:50 am
Post by: Smitson on April 02, 2009, 02:08:50 am
Whats with the hate for 8 
? I'm enjoying it much more then 1,2,3 or Crystal Chronicles.
? I'm enjoying it much more then 1,2,3 or Crystal Chronicles.
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Post by: Kuraudo Sutoraifu on April 02, 2009, 02:42:37 am
Post by: Kuraudo Sutoraifu on April 02, 2009, 02:42:37 am
Are we talking US FF3, if so, that game rocked. FF8 can't hold a torch to it. FF8 was alright up until they had thier Dawson's Creek moment on the basketball court, it was downhill from there.
At least you're not playing FFIX, the game where everyone but the main character is interesting. Zidane = Personality Fail.
At least you're not playing FFIX, the game where everyone but the main character is interesting. Zidane = Personality Fail.
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Post by: Bastard Poetry on April 02, 2009, 02:58:49 am
Post by: Bastard Poetry on April 02, 2009, 02:58:49 am
Quote from: "Kuraudo Sutoraifu"Dawson's Creek moment on the basketball court.
^ This!
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Post by: FFMaster on April 02, 2009, 03:02:25 am
Post by: FFMaster on April 02, 2009, 03:02:25 am
Quote from: "Kuraudo Sutoraifu"FF8 was alright up until they had thier Dawson's Creek moment on the basketball court, it was downhill from there.
Hahaha, never thought of it that way. More reason to hate. And how can anybody hate FF3/6 (the one with Kefka)?
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Post by: Bastard Poetry on April 02, 2009, 03:04:29 am
Post by: Bastard Poetry on April 02, 2009, 03:04:29 am
I thought we had moved beyond those years of having to constantly distinguish between 3/6 on that one.
Isn't it standard practice now to always use the Japanese numbers, since we're no longer in the dark about how many were made before VI arrived in the US?
Isn't it standard practice now to always use the Japanese numbers, since we're no longer in the dark about how many were made before VI arrived in the US?
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Post by: Smitson on April 02, 2009, 04:12:34 am
Post by: Smitson on April 02, 2009, 04:12:34 am
Isnt FF3 the (well DS verison) the one with Luneth and etc... and FF6 is with Terra and Kefka right?
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Post by: FFMaster on April 02, 2009, 04:57:43 am
Post by: FFMaster on April 02, 2009, 04:57:43 am
@BP - I normally just call it 6, but since Kuraudo decided to question which one Smitson meant, I decided to make myself completely clear.
@Smitson - Correct.
@Smitson - Correct.
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Post by: Verdeni on April 02, 2009, 07:47:06 am
Post by: Verdeni on April 02, 2009, 07:47:06 am
Buh... Being a Final Fantasy nut, I can't honestly say I hate any of them to the point of never playing them.
In all honesty, I think all the Final Fantasies were all AT LEAST worth playing/trying, can we agree on that? xD lol
I'm big on Battle Systems too, and must say, Other than FFT's...3, 4, 6, and VII, were the only really truly enjoyable Battle Systems.
The others were kinda like, "If I didn't need to level up I'd be running right now..." and sometimes I'd runaway regardless. xD
In all honesty, I think all the Final Fantasies were all AT LEAST worth playing/trying, can we agree on that? xD lol
I'm big on Battle Systems too, and must say, Other than FFT's...3, 4, 6, and VII, were the only really truly enjoyable Battle Systems.
The others were kinda like, "If I didn't need to level up I'd be running right now..." and sometimes I'd runaway regardless. xD
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Post by: Aquilae on April 02, 2009, 08:14:13 am
Post by: Aquilae on April 02, 2009, 08:14:13 am
I hated FF8's battle system. First was the Junctioning, Drawing spells is a royal pain in the ass, and doing Triple Triad for cards to convert into spells is even more tedious. I tried an LLG, it was stupidly easy once you got all the godly junctions. Boss fights were over in less than five turns, maybe less if I spammed Limit Breaks. Limit Breaks being spammable is really broken, insane damage with almost no drawbacks. There is only one way to win battles, duke it out with physicals as magic is crap, and who would want to waste their junctioned magic when their physical attacks / limit breaks do much more damage?
I didn't go all the way through, it wasn't fun watching the bosses get raped over and over.
Also, the plot sucks. don't need to explain why
I didn't go all the way through, it wasn't fun watching the bosses get raped over and over.
Also, the plot sucks. don't need to explain why
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Post by: Dokurider on April 02, 2009, 10:30:50 am
Post by: Dokurider on April 02, 2009, 10:30:50 am
As a guy who loves FF8 to death...Play another game. I only like FF8 for the nostalgia value nowadays. It's really shitty. Just play another game.
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Post by: Archael on April 02, 2009, 10:40:16 am
Post by: Archael on April 02, 2009, 10:40:16 am
I loved all FF's
because Sephiroth is in FF7 and by association all other FF's are lovely
so, if you hate FF dont play FF ok
go play some other trash like Lego Legaia
because Sephiroth is in FF7 and by association all other FF's are lovely
so, if you hate FF dont play FF ok
go play some other trash like Lego Legaia
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Post by: Pixy on April 02, 2009, 11:02:05 am
Post by: Pixy on April 02, 2009, 11:02:05 am
FF8, hm.. Well, I didn't HATE it. But the battle system is too cut and dry, like FF7s. When it came down to it the best people to use were based on the best Limit Breaks [So basically, Squall because you have no choice, Irvine for Shot, and Zell for stupid broken Duel]. Magic is indeed crap, but there was still Meltdown that made things even more rape for the bosses. There's no diversity in skills because everyone has everything, and it's possible to get Lionheart in Disc 1 [is it possible in any FF besides this one to get the final weapon in the beginning?]. Of course, you don't HAVE to break the game, but the fact is that you have the option to, and playing Triple Triad isn't very hard at all.
As for the story, it could've been fine, but it was written poorly. The "plot twist" at the basketball court, for example.
"Hey, did you know that (spoiler)?"
"Woah, I remember!"
Same with the Squall and Rinoa story.... well, you'll see. I don't think you should stop playing.. because you might like it. It could end up being some sort of acquired taste. But if you're expecting an RPG made of gold, then you might be disappointed.
As for the story, it could've been fine, but it was written poorly. The "plot twist" at the basketball court, for example.
"Hey, did you know that (spoiler)?"
"Woah, I remember!"
Same with the Squall and Rinoa story.... well, you'll see. I don't think you should stop playing.. because you might like it. It could end up being some sort of acquired taste. But if you're expecting an RPG made of gold, then you might be disappointed.
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Post by: Sephirot24 on April 02, 2009, 01:29:41 pm
Post by: Sephirot24 on April 02, 2009, 01:29:41 pm
FF8 was a great FF IMO, but it has some HUGE flaws...
Stupid story twists.
Stupid Squall and Rinoa behavior in general.
Upgrading weapons... uuughh >_>
DRAWING MAGIC
And so forth..
Despite that I still like 8
And hey! Everybody watch this! FF8 review (one of the best rant-reviews ever!)
Parts 1-5
http://www.spoonyexperiment.com/categor ... ii/page/2/ (http://www.spoonyexperiment.com/category/final-fantasy-viii/page/2/)
Parts 6-10 (and counting.. there's more coming)
http://www.spoonyexperiment.com/categor ... tasy-viii/ (http://www.spoonyexperiment.com/category/final-fantasy-viii/)
Enjoy XD and watch them in order!
Stupid story twists.
Stupid Squall and Rinoa behavior in general.
Upgrading weapons... uuughh >_>
DRAWING MAGIC
And so forth..
Despite that I still like 8
And hey! Everybody watch this! FF8 review (one of the best rant-reviews ever!)
Parts 1-5
http://www.spoonyexperiment.com/categor ... ii/page/2/ (http://www.spoonyexperiment.com/category/final-fantasy-viii/page/2/)
Parts 6-10 (and counting.. there's more coming)
http://www.spoonyexperiment.com/categor ... tasy-viii/ (http://www.spoonyexperiment.com/category/final-fantasy-viii/)
Enjoy XD and watch them in order!
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Post by: Dokurider on April 02, 2009, 01:37:01 pm
Post by: Dokurider on April 02, 2009, 01:37:01 pm
Spoony's an OK reviewer. Gets annoying at times, particular at Part 8 (yet to see 9 and 10). But I've yet to see a better review of FF8 honestly.
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Post by: Sephirot24 on April 02, 2009, 01:52:46 pm
Post by: Sephirot24 on April 02, 2009, 01:52:46 pm
Lol, just watched part 10 and he starts saying the whole series sucks and etc and 'twas an aprils fool joke XD
If you want serious reviews watch the FINAL FANTASY RETROSPECTIVE at Gametrailers.com http://www.gametrailers.com/game/4831.html (http://www.gametrailers.com/game/4831.html)
That one is seriously awesome. Makes you want to cry in amazenessesnessnensnenennsnenes
If you want serious reviews watch the FINAL FANTASY RETROSPECTIVE at Gametrailers.com http://www.gametrailers.com/game/4831.html (http://www.gametrailers.com/game/4831.html)
That one is seriously awesome. Makes you want to cry in amazenessesnessnensnenennsnenes
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Post by: Kuraudo Sutoraifu on April 02, 2009, 02:16:00 pm
Post by: Kuraudo Sutoraifu on April 02, 2009, 02:16:00 pm
FF Retrospective was an awesome watch.
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Post by: Kaijyuu on April 02, 2009, 02:29:47 pm
Post by: Kaijyuu on April 02, 2009, 02:29:47 pm
FF6 and Tactics were the only FFs with enjoyable battle systems, I think. The rest were some variation of spam A until things die.
Ok, it's a bit more complex than that in some. 5 at least mixed up which ability you spammed as you changed jobs, and 8 made you draw magic (though honestly I'd rather be spamming A). 12's bored me to death because I despise most everything about it (MMOs aren't popular for their battle systems. Why'd they have to rip off those?). And I'm not sure we're counting 11... similar complaints to 12 though.
Ok, it's a bit more complex than that in some. 5 at least mixed up which ability you spammed as you changed jobs, and 8 made you draw magic (though honestly I'd rather be spamming A). 12's bored me to death because I despise most everything about it (MMOs aren't popular for their battle systems. Why'd they have to rip off those?). And I'm not sure we're counting 11... similar complaints to 12 though.
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Post by: Zozma on April 02, 2009, 04:08:46 pm
Post by: Zozma on April 02, 2009, 04:08:46 pm
ff6 and tactics were my favorites as well. id love to see a 3d remake for ff6... i wish theyd finished that even tho it looked like they gave terra blonde hair
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Post by: Kaijyuu on April 02, 2009, 04:11:48 pm
Post by: Kaijyuu on April 02, 2009, 04:11:48 pm
That's how it was in the concept art. They only gave her green hair because otherwise it'd be harder to differentiate her from celes.
The initial idea behind her was "foreigner." The name Tina and blond hair are both foreign to japan. Not very foreign to us, but eh.
The initial idea behind her was "foreigner." The name Tina and blond hair are both foreign to japan. Not very foreign to us, but eh.
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Post by: ArkDelgato on April 02, 2009, 05:41:05 pm
Post by: ArkDelgato on April 02, 2009, 05:41:05 pm
Quote from: "Voldemort"I loved all FF's(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii168/Ark-Delgato/sephy3.jpg)
because Sephiroth is in FF7 and by association all other FF's are lovely
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Post by: Cheetah on April 02, 2009, 09:01:35 pm
Post by: Cheetah on April 02, 2009, 09:01:35 pm
Considering that every RPG fan should strive to play every FF, I think you should definitely play it. I certainly enjoyed parts of it and it is a good play overall. It is certainly a little broken and annoying at times, but definitely worth playing if you are a Final Fantasy fan.
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Post by: Zozma on April 02, 2009, 09:09:49 pm
Post by: Zozma on April 02, 2009, 09:09:49 pm
yeah they needed the green to differenciate. i mean celes, leo, edgar, sabin they are all blondes too afterall.
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Post by: Dokurider on April 03, 2009, 01:36:07 pm
Post by: Dokurider on April 03, 2009, 01:36:07 pm
Quote from: "Cheetah"Considering that every RPG fan should strive to play every FFNo.
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Post by: Verdeni on April 03, 2009, 01:44:33 pm
Post by: Verdeni on April 03, 2009, 01:44:33 pm
Quote from: "Dokurider"Yes.Quote from: "Cheetah"Considering that every RPG fan should strive to play every FFNo.
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Post by: Dokurider on April 03, 2009, 01:46:57 pm
Post by: Dokurider on April 03, 2009, 01:46:57 pm
Quote from: "Verdeni"Fag.Quote from: "Dokurider"Yes.Quote from: "Cheetah"Considering that every RPG fan should strive to play every FFNo.
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Post by: Archael on April 03, 2009, 01:47:12 pm
Post by: Archael on April 03, 2009, 01:47:12 pm
Quote from: "Dokurider"Incorrect.Quote from: "Verdeni"Fag.Quote from: "Dokurider"Yes.Quote from: "Cheetah"Considering that every RPG fan should strive to play every FFNo.
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Post by: Xifanie on April 03, 2009, 04:15:50 pm
Post by: Xifanie on April 03, 2009, 04:15:50 pm
Last time I heard of someone play FF8, he only played it for the card game.
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Post by: Smitson on April 03, 2009, 04:46:53 pm
Post by: Smitson on April 03, 2009, 04:46:53 pm
So you guys are telling me the game isn't even worth playing through once?
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Post by: Zozma on April 03, 2009, 04:59:00 pm
Post by: Zozma on April 03, 2009, 04:59:00 pm
thats pretty much what were saying.. i dont see why squall even has a fanbase at all, unless it was just because of kingdom hearts and all that
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Post by: Archael on April 03, 2009, 05:14:27 pm
Post by: Archael on April 03, 2009, 05:14:27 pm
Quote from: "ArkDelgato"Quote from: "Voldemort"I loved all FF's(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii168/Ark-Delgato/sephy3.jpg)
because Sephiroth is in FF7 and by association all other FF's are lovely
I disagree strongly
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Post by: philsov on April 03, 2009, 05:19:22 pm
Post by: philsov on April 03, 2009, 05:19:22 pm
Quote from: "ArkDelgato"(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii168/Ark-Delgato/sephy3.jpg)
Looks like the guy from Super Punch Out.
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Post by: ArkDelgato on April 03, 2009, 05:48:12 pm
Post by: ArkDelgato on April 03, 2009, 05:48:12 pm
Quote from: "philsov"Looks like the guy from Super Punch Out.(http://ui11.gamefaqs.com/810/gfs_47175_2_23.jpg)
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Post by: Cheetah on April 03, 2009, 09:02:05 pm
Post by: Cheetah on April 03, 2009, 09:02:05 pm
I would definitely recommend giving it a try. Obviously almost everyone here has given the game more than a little portion of their life. If you don't like it then you should be able to figure it out pretty quick.
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Post by: Kuraudo Sutoraifu on April 04, 2009, 07:42:43 pm
Post by: Kuraudo Sutoraifu on April 04, 2009, 07:42:43 pm
Play it if you're having fun, but don't expect greatness is all that I'm saying. BTW, I'm playing FFXII for the first time, and I do say, it's shaping up to greatness.
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Post by: Verdeni on April 04, 2009, 07:54:48 pm
Post by: Verdeni on April 04, 2009, 07:54:48 pm
Quote from: "Kuraudo Sutoraifu"I'm playing FFXII for the first time, and I do say, it's shaping up to greatness.
Opinion differs for that one too. I feel that it had potential, Storyline was good.
Never should have used the MMO battle style.
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Post by: Smitson on April 05, 2009, 01:05:52 am
Post by: Smitson on April 05, 2009, 01:05:52 am
Quote from: "Verdeni"Quote from: "Kuraudo Sutoraifu"I'm playing FFXII for the first time, and I do say, it's shaping up to greatness.
Opinion differs for that one too. I feel that it had potential, Storyline was good.
Never should have used the MMO battle style.
That game blows without Balthier, but with him it's all win.
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Post by: Kaijyuu on April 05, 2009, 02:08:00 am
Post by: Kaijyuu on April 05, 2009, 02:08:00 am
Quote from: "Verdeni"Never should have used the MMO battle style.It's what killed it for me.
Could have a story better than even FFT's. I'm not sure the pain of playing the actual game is worth it.
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Post by: philsov on April 05, 2009, 10:05:43 am
Post by: philsov on April 05, 2009, 10:05:43 am
Quote from: "Verdeni"Never should have used the MMO battle style.
I dunno. I greatly preferred it to the old fashioned "enemies on the right, party on the left, select attack when your turn is up style" from basically all the other FF's. And the gambit system was amazing and allowed for real-time battle, where unit placement really mattered (I just wish there was a gambit for BIG AOE RUN THE HELL AWAY). It required a bit of min-maxing, but it was more enjoyable than the traditional system for me.
I just disliked how towards the end everyone was everything, license wise. I'm a sucker for a class system, or at the very least some restriction which presents opportunity cost.
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Post by: dwib on April 05, 2009, 03:04:01 pm
Post by: dwib on April 05, 2009, 03:04:01 pm
i though XII had a shitty storyline
VIII is definitely worth a playthrough.
also on this topic i once played FFX just to play blitzball
VIII is definitely worth a playthrough.
Quote from: "Zodiac"Last time I heard of someone play FF8, he only played it for the card game.lol if I wanted to play an FF card game it'd be on IX
also on this topic i once played FFX just to play blitzball
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Post by: Sephirot24 on April 06, 2009, 09:30:14 pm
Post by: Sephirot24 on April 06, 2009, 09:30:14 pm
First time I played XII I was hyper-excited. I waited XII for SO long I went and popped it up (a month before it came out.. yeah, here all "VG Stores" are just a bunch of pirated CDs and DVDs stores). I was blown away with it's graphics and gameplay mechanics that didn't involve random battles every 5 steps ever again! The gambits were useful for saving time and fun to make and try out new combos. Music was quite good (not Nobuo level but still good). Story was boring, very political themed.. like FFT but more unnecesarily long and didn't have any zodiac stones and monsters in it XD .
One thing I also hated was the voice acting. Though many of you'll say that X's VA was horrible and XII's fixed it, I don't think like that. Maybe because english is not my 1st language.. but X's VA was easy to understand, full of emotion, and Tidus narrating the story was quite enjoyable. Here it was the sound quality of an old radio, and all these people from Enland talking in super refined English, so much that got close to old english (which I obviously don't know, 'cept for a few words like thy, art, thou...). It was hard to understand many parts because of complex sentence structure..
Anyways, like I said I loved the gameplay my 1st playthrough. I played 150hs in 3 weeks. Beat every single hunt (even Yiazmat, which had 50 MILLION HP, I'M NOT FUCKING KIDDING, 50 MILLION). Took 6 hours with 3 lvl 97 party members with the best possible weapon to fight him (a darkness elemental ninja sword which I had to spend hours to get the materials from a rare drop). Killed also Omega MKXII which was a much shorter fight but still very difficult. The ending was quite easy, and after a few days I thought I'd give it another run. But here comes the biggest problem IMO: THE LICENSE BOARD.
Who the hell thought it'd be a good idea?? The license board system is like a huge board split into 2 parts: one for equipment and one for skills, magic, and support bonuses in general. ALL your 6 characters share this one, and anyone can learn anything from the board (the other characters can still learn it, it doesn't take it away). So, you can have all your people with heavy armour and a huge Knightsword if u like. You can learn every support bonus (things like +HP, reduced charge time, magic power, physical power, etc), every technique, and every Magic ability (black, white, green, time and arcane IIRC).
You'd think "well, ok. many FFs have done this. you can have all your party members the exact same if you want, but you can also have them differ.. no one has a gun to your head" and you'd be right, but here's the shit: look at FFIII or V or FFT.. you can learn everything, but you're only able to equip a limited amount of abilities, making the game balanced and in general, forcing you to balance your team for better results. Here every technique or magic skill you learn, you can use it whenever you feel like it. If you learned every black, white, green time and arcane spell, you can use them anytime, and so does any party member who has learned it. So, halfway through the game when LP (kinda like JP) gain is not an issue, your 3 main characters will be carbon copy of each other! Any character can raise, cure 3, fire 3, haste, protect, shell, bravery, whatever needed. The only thing that differences them is their quickenings (they are an awful, AWFUL attempt at limit breaks in general), their Summons (when someone learns a summon, no one else can use it... they are totally useless anyway), and their equipment IF you choose to equip different armor (which I did).
When I tried to play it for a 2nd time (and a couple of months later a 3rd attempt) I couldn't. I think it's because of that.. everyone ends up being the same character. It takes too much time to get money to buy equips and abilities (you even have to buy magics). And the bazaar system is complete bullshit. It's a system where selling the right amount of certain kind of loot will make special items or offers available in the bazaar shop, labeled with anything except the items name.. so you never know what you're buying. There's also NO list of what items you have to sell to get what items, in what quantity, and which loot stacks its count and which resets, or where to get them. And don't make me started on the Zodiac Lance.. (was that the damn name..?).
To conclude. It's worth a playthrough IMO. Maybe 2, but I just couldn't do it. The main story alone takes about 70 hours if you are used to check most places in general, buy nice items, and do short sidequests.
One thing I also hated was the voice acting. Though many of you'll say that X's VA was horrible and XII's fixed it, I don't think like that. Maybe because english is not my 1st language.. but X's VA was easy to understand, full of emotion, and Tidus narrating the story was quite enjoyable. Here it was the sound quality of an old radio, and all these people from Enland talking in super refined English, so much that got close to old english (which I obviously don't know, 'cept for a few words like thy, art, thou...). It was hard to understand many parts because of complex sentence structure..
Anyways, like I said I loved the gameplay my 1st playthrough. I played 150hs in 3 weeks. Beat every single hunt (even Yiazmat, which had 50 MILLION HP, I'M NOT FUCKING KIDDING, 50 MILLION). Took 6 hours with 3 lvl 97 party members with the best possible weapon to fight him (a darkness elemental ninja sword which I had to spend hours to get the materials from a rare drop). Killed also Omega MKXII which was a much shorter fight but still very difficult. The ending was quite easy, and after a few days I thought I'd give it another run. But here comes the biggest problem IMO: THE LICENSE BOARD.
Who the hell thought it'd be a good idea?? The license board system is like a huge board split into 2 parts: one for equipment and one for skills, magic, and support bonuses in general. ALL your 6 characters share this one, and anyone can learn anything from the board (the other characters can still learn it, it doesn't take it away). So, you can have all your people with heavy armour and a huge Knightsword if u like. You can learn every support bonus (things like +HP, reduced charge time, magic power, physical power, etc), every technique, and every Magic ability (black, white, green, time and arcane IIRC).
You'd think "well, ok. many FFs have done this. you can have all your party members the exact same if you want, but you can also have them differ.. no one has a gun to your head" and you'd be right, but here's the shit: look at FFIII or V or FFT.. you can learn everything, but you're only able to equip a limited amount of abilities, making the game balanced and in general, forcing you to balance your team for better results. Here every technique or magic skill you learn, you can use it whenever you feel like it. If you learned every black, white, green time and arcane spell, you can use them anytime, and so does any party member who has learned it. So, halfway through the game when LP (kinda like JP) gain is not an issue, your 3 main characters will be carbon copy of each other! Any character can raise, cure 3, fire 3, haste, protect, shell, bravery, whatever needed. The only thing that differences them is their quickenings (they are an awful, AWFUL attempt at limit breaks in general), their Summons (when someone learns a summon, no one else can use it... they are totally useless anyway), and their equipment IF you choose to equip different armor (which I did).
When I tried to play it for a 2nd time (and a couple of months later a 3rd attempt) I couldn't. I think it's because of that.. everyone ends up being the same character. It takes too much time to get money to buy equips and abilities (you even have to buy magics). And the bazaar system is complete bullshit. It's a system where selling the right amount of certain kind of loot will make special items or offers available in the bazaar shop, labeled with anything except the items name.. so you never know what you're buying. There's also NO list of what items you have to sell to get what items, in what quantity, and which loot stacks its count and which resets, or where to get them. And don't make me started on the Zodiac Lance.. (was that the damn name..?).
To conclude. It's worth a playthrough IMO. Maybe 2, but I just couldn't do it. The main story alone takes about 70 hours if you are used to check most places in general, buy nice items, and do short sidequests.
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Post by: philsov on April 06, 2009, 10:44:22 pm
Post by: philsov on April 06, 2009, 10:44:22 pm
QuoteThere's also NO list of what items you have to sell to get what items, in what quantity, and which loot stacks its count and which resets, or where to get them
There's FAQs for that >_>
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Post by: Sephirot24 on April 06, 2009, 11:46:54 pm
Post by: Sephirot24 on April 06, 2009, 11:46:54 pm
Quote from: "philsov"QuoteThere's also NO list of what items you have to sell to get what items, in what quantity, and which loot stacks its count and which resets, or where to get them
There's FAQs for that >_>
Yeah, obviously. You think I got those Dark elemental swords by chance? XD
I mean that there's NO hint whatsoever in the entire game on what enemies to poach, or where they are, or how much items are required.. not even a word about HOW the Bazaar system works. How would you know that it'll be the same if you sold 1 of your hard earned special loot, or if you sold 12 at the same time. Some items quantity stack and others cycle. Even with a FAQ is confusing..
And the Zodiac Spear!!! "Uh ok guys, let's make the Zodiac Spear, the best weapon in the game. BUT it can only be obtained if you DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT open 4 specific chests that not only are located at the beginning of the game, but are also close to impossible for anyone to miss." Who in the world would not open a chest in their way. Maybe if it was hidden within a cave and some old guy said something like "Uh.. don't touch that.. it's cursed" or w/e.. but no, there's no hint in the whole game. Oh but wait, you can still have it! There's a chest halfway through one of the most annoying dungeons which has a 10% chance of appearing, a 10% chance of having an item, and a 10% chance of having the Spear!! Which makes for a whooping 1/1000 chance!