Poll
You got a psp?
This.
Stupid PSP.
It'd be on top of my list of games to buy if I did.
lol yeah. but he got owned by gilgamesh.
you are looking into this too deeply
Question: Should Square-Enix make a Dissidia II?
Option 1: Yes
votes: 11
Option 2: No
votes: 4
Title: Dissidia II Cast
Post by: Oblivion on March 31, 2009, 12:21:52 pm
Post by: Oblivion on March 31, 2009, 12:21:52 pm
Who do you think should be in Dissidia's sequel (if they make one)?
Dissidia II Cast (who i want to see)
Heroes and Villains
FF1: Warrior of Light and Garland
FF2: Firion and The Emporer
FF3: Onion Knight (terrible name) and Cloud of Darkness
FF4: Cecil Harvey and Golbez
FF5: Bartz Klauser and Exdeath (i wish they'd change it to Exodus)
FF6: Terra Branford and Kefka Palazzo
FF7: Cloud Strife and Sephiroth
DOC: Vincent Valentine and Weiss
CC: Zack Fair and Genesis Rhapsodos
FF8: Squall Leonhart and Ultimecia
FF9: Zidane Tribal and Kuja
FF10: Tidus and Jecht/Yuna and Seymour (maybe)
FF10-2: Yuna, Rikku, and Paine and Shuyin (maybe)
FF12: Basch or Balthier and Judge Gabranth or Dr. Cid/Ba'Gamnan
FF13: Lightining and her villain or rival
FFvs13: Noctis (he pwns) and the white robed guy (the guy opposing him)
FFT: Ramza (unsure about EX Mode) and Delita (he'd be like Golbez)
FFTA: Llednar (oh yeah!) and Marche (if you really think about it Marche is a villain, not a hero.)
FFTA2: Luso (Parivir and Seer as EX Mode(Thanks to silvasruin for the idea) and Illua
Secret Characters
FF5: Gilgamesh (Costumes would be FF5 appearance and FF12 appearance)HMPH I"VE FOUGHT WORSE!!!)
CC: Angeal
FF11: Shantotto
Chrono Trigger (lol, not an FF game): Crono and Magus
Dissidia II Cast (who i want to see)
Heroes and Villains
FF1: Warrior of Light and Garland
FF2: Firion and The Emporer
FF3: Onion Knight (terrible name) and Cloud of Darkness
FF4: Cecil Harvey and Golbez
FF5: Bartz Klauser and Exdeath (i wish they'd change it to Exodus)
FF6: Terra Branford and Kefka Palazzo
FF7: Cloud Strife and Sephiroth
DOC: Vincent Valentine and Weiss
CC: Zack Fair and Genesis Rhapsodos
FF8: Squall Leonhart and Ultimecia
FF9: Zidane Tribal and Kuja
FF10: Tidus and Jecht/Yuna and Seymour (maybe)
FF10-2: Yuna, Rikku, and Paine and Shuyin (maybe)
FF12: Basch or Balthier and Judge Gabranth or Dr. Cid/Ba'Gamnan
FF13: Lightining and her villain or rival
FFvs13: Noctis (he pwns) and the white robed guy (the guy opposing him)
FFT: Ramza (unsure about EX Mode) and Delita (he'd be like Golbez)
FFTA: Llednar (oh yeah!) and Marche (if you really think about it Marche is a villain, not a hero.)
FFTA2: Luso (Parivir and Seer as EX Mode(Thanks to silvasruin for the idea) and Illua
Secret Characters
FF5: Gilgamesh (Costumes would be FF5 appearance and FF12 appearance)HMPH I"VE FOUGHT WORSE!!!)
CC: Angeal
FF11: Shantotto
Chrono Trigger (lol, not an FF game): Crono and Magus
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Post by: Kaijyuu on March 31, 2009, 12:22:56 pm
Post by: Kaijyuu on March 31, 2009, 12:22:56 pm
Haven't played the first one, so I dunno.
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Post by: Oblivion on March 31, 2009, 12:27:40 pm
Post by: Oblivion on March 31, 2009, 12:27:40 pm
Quote from: "Kaijyuu"Haven't played the first one, so I dunno.
You got a psp?
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Post by: Cheetah on March 31, 2009, 12:54:46 pm
Post by: Cheetah on March 31, 2009, 12:54:46 pm
They will probably start by just adding an additional character from each game, get a more balanced female to male ratio.
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Post by: Kuraudo Sutoraifu on March 31, 2009, 02:00:20 pm
Post by: Kuraudo Sutoraifu on March 31, 2009, 02:00:20 pm
Quote from: "Kaijyuu"Haven't played the first one, so I dunno.
This.
Stupid PSP.
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Post by: Archael on March 31, 2009, 02:07:30 pm
Post by: Archael on March 31, 2009, 02:07:30 pm
Dissidia II Cast
Heroes and Villains
FF1: Sephiroth
FF2: Sephiroth
FF3: Sephiroth
FF4: Sephiroth
FF5: Sephiroth
FF6: Sephiroth
FF7: Sephiroth and Sephiroth
DOC: Sephiroth
CC: Sephiroth
FF8: Sephiroth
FF9: Sephiroth
FF10: Sephiroth
FF10-2: Sephiroth
FF12: Sephiroth
FF13: Sephiroth's Seifer Sephiroth Form
FFvs13: Sephiroth (he pwns)
FFT: Elmdor
FFTA: Sephiroth
FFTA2: Sephiroth
Secret Characters
FF5: Sephiroth
CC: Sephiroth
FF11: Sephiroth
Chrono Trigger (lol, not an FF game): Sephiroth
Fixed
Heroes and Villains
FF1: Sephiroth
FF2: Sephiroth
FF3: Sephiroth
FF4: Sephiroth
FF5: Sephiroth
FF6: Sephiroth
FF7: Sephiroth and Sephiroth
DOC: Sephiroth
CC: Sephiroth
FF8: Sephiroth
FF9: Sephiroth
FF10: Sephiroth
FF10-2: Sephiroth
FF12: Sephiroth
FF13: Sephiroth's Seifer Sephiroth Form
FFvs13: Sephiroth (he pwns)
FFT: Elmdor
FFTA: Sephiroth
FFTA2: Sephiroth
Secret Characters
FF5: Sephiroth
CC: Sephiroth
FF11: Sephiroth
Chrono Trigger (lol, not an FF game): Sephiroth
Fixed
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Post by: Smitson on March 31, 2009, 03:14:15 pm
Post by: Smitson on March 31, 2009, 03:14:15 pm
Fuck Chrono, put in, one more guy from each game, Balthier, Ramza and Delita and it's all good.
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Post by: DarthPaul on March 31, 2009, 03:41:19 pm
Post by: DarthPaul on March 31, 2009, 03:41:19 pm
I would like to see Seifer.
Also possibly Sora and Riku from Kingdom Hearts.
Though if they did a DISSIDIA: SQUARE ENIX, then I would like to see Jack and Gawain.
Also possibly Sora and Riku from Kingdom Hearts.
Though if they did a DISSIDIA: SQUARE ENIX, then I would like to see Jack and Gawain.
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Post by: Kaijyuu on March 31, 2009, 05:25:34 pm
Post by: Kaijyuu on March 31, 2009, 05:25:34 pm
Quote from: "ehrgeiz20"You got a psp?Nope.
It'd be on top of my list of games to buy if I did.
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Post by: Vanya on March 31, 2009, 06:03:04 pm
Post by: Vanya on March 31, 2009, 06:03:04 pm
It would be nice if they finished localizing the damn thing already.
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Post by: SentinalBlade on April 01, 2009, 01:03:19 am
Post by: SentinalBlade on April 01, 2009, 01:03:19 am
CC, DOC... why?
Dissidia was in development for many years, which is why gabranth is only one in from 12. and 11 has no main villian/hero... They rather hastily added these two, and it still took a delay of the release to balance them.
CC, DOC, are side stories. they are not the original, and were not part of the original release, when people tell me CC and DOC, or even KoH shouldve made it into dissidia, it makes me mad. they are NOT the original base for a game. only one that shouldve been in dissidia that wasnt, is FFT, and thats because it is a story all its own, and, just like all the other final fantasy games included in dissidia, are totally unrelated from each other. The point of the story(if you guys play a translation) is that Cosmos brings 1 main hero from every dimension, to combat the 1 villian brought from every dimension. IF they brought in zack, from CC, they couldnt bring in cloud. who is still alive at this time. if they brought in vincent, they couldnt bring in cloud, or zack. Dissidia is a fighting game, but its still final fantasy, it has a story.
TL;DR
FUCK YOU. if this is to long you dont deserve to make a rebuttle. on a semi sensable note though, anything other then the ones in dissidia already, will cause story conundrums. best of luck convincing sony to let a dead hero(zack) in at teh same time as a living hero(Cloud)
Dissidia was in development for many years, which is why gabranth is only one in from 12. and 11 has no main villian/hero... They rather hastily added these two, and it still took a delay of the release to balance them.
CC, DOC, are side stories. they are not the original, and were not part of the original release, when people tell me CC and DOC, or even KoH shouldve made it into dissidia, it makes me mad. they are NOT the original base for a game. only one that shouldve been in dissidia that wasnt, is FFT, and thats because it is a story all its own, and, just like all the other final fantasy games included in dissidia, are totally unrelated from each other. The point of the story(if you guys play a translation) is that Cosmos brings 1 main hero from every dimension, to combat the 1 villian brought from every dimension. IF they brought in zack, from CC, they couldnt bring in cloud. who is still alive at this time. if they brought in vincent, they couldnt bring in cloud, or zack. Dissidia is a fighting game, but its still final fantasy, it has a story.
TL;DR
FUCK YOU. if this is to long you dont deserve to make a rebuttle. on a semi sensable note though, anything other then the ones in dissidia already, will cause story conundrums. best of luck convincing sony to let a dead hero(zack) in at teh same time as a living hero(Cloud)
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Post by: Kaijyuu on April 01, 2009, 01:15:28 am
Post by: Kaijyuu on April 01, 2009, 01:15:28 am
On that logic, sentinal, Mystic Quest should've gotten a character as well. I don't know much about crystal chronicles, but I don't think it's a spin off of any existing FF universe either.
Plus it could very well be argued that FF12 and FFT are in the same universe; if they implemented whatshisface from FF12, they couldn't of used Vormav or whoever, by your logic.
Personally I think, if they got a game, they deserve a character. But the fact of the matter is, "could've," "should've" and "would've" are all superseded by development costs. Who "deserves" a spot more? Dissidia's devs decided they should just go by the games that got a number attached to their title; those are glorified as the "main" series. And it makes it simple.
Plus it could very well be argued that FF12 and FFT are in the same universe; if they implemented whatshisface from FF12, they couldn't of used Vormav or whoever, by your logic.
Personally I think, if they got a game, they deserve a character. But the fact of the matter is, "could've," "should've" and "would've" are all superseded by development costs. Who "deserves" a spot more? Dissidia's devs decided they should just go by the games that got a number attached to their title; those are glorified as the "main" series. And it makes it simple.
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Post by: Oblivion on April 01, 2009, 05:28:07 am
Post by: Oblivion on April 01, 2009, 05:28:07 am
geez sentinel, chill out. i'll i did was ask a question and state who i'd like to see the game and you get all bitchy. calm the fuck down it isn't that serious. if you werent gonna post who you'd like to see in a sequel of dissidia. Voldemort did better than you and all he put wuz sephiroth elmdore. loosen up, damn!
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Post by: DarthPaul on April 01, 2009, 08:26:20 am
Post by: DarthPaul on April 01, 2009, 08:26:20 am
Still think they should do a sequel involving the character from the most epic Square Enix games.
The only problem would be synchronizing the art style.
Also Seifer > Ultimecia .
He fucking cut Odin in fucking half without breaking a sweat.
The only problem would be synchronizing the art style.
Also Seifer > Ultimecia .
He fucking cut Odin in fucking half without breaking a sweat.
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Post by: Oblivion on April 01, 2009, 01:52:09 pm
Post by: Oblivion on April 01, 2009, 01:52:09 pm
Quote from: "ph33rb0t"Still think they should do a sequel involving the character from the most epic Square Enix games.
The only problem would be synchronizing the art style.
Also Seifer > Ultimecia .
He fucking cut Odin in fucking half without breaking a sweat.
lol yeah. but he got owned by gilgamesh.
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Post by: Oblivion on April 01, 2009, 01:53:52 pm
Post by: Oblivion on April 01, 2009, 01:53:52 pm
Quote from: "Kuraudo Sutoraifu"why dont you like psp?Quote from: "Kaijyuu"Haven't played the first one, so I dunno.
This.
Stupid PSP.
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Post by: Kuraudo Sutoraifu on April 01, 2009, 04:36:34 pm
Post by: Kuraudo Sutoraifu on April 01, 2009, 04:36:34 pm
Because it's yet another platform. Just let me play my games on my console! Or at least let me play PSP games on a PS3. There are games I want to play on the PSP and the DS, but I don't have the cash to fork over for even moar platforms.
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Post by: DarthPaul on April 01, 2009, 04:58:20 pm
Post by: DarthPaul on April 01, 2009, 04:58:20 pm
I think there is some way to do that K-Suto.
Or I could be wrong.
Or I could be wrong.
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Post by: Kaijyuu on April 01, 2009, 05:52:13 pm
Post by: Kaijyuu on April 01, 2009, 05:52:13 pm
There's currently no stable PSP emulator.
Dunno about the DS.
Dunno about the DS.
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Post by: Vanya on April 01, 2009, 06:20:46 pm
Post by: Vanya on April 01, 2009, 06:20:46 pm
There are stable ones of the DS for PC. Don't know if they are being ported for Wii homebrew channel.
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Post by: SentinalBlade on April 01, 2009, 08:26:20 pm
Post by: SentinalBlade on April 01, 2009, 08:26:20 pm
Kaijuyu, by my Logic actually, FFT should not have been included because ff12 was. FFT is after the catalycsm, and moogles are exctinct in fft, whereas they are alive and well in ff12, showing that FFT is in the future.
If i came off a bit stern i apologize, but you should know that i never really put my text into place with a sense of anger, if you read it that way, its not the way it was intended. exclimation points are what i use when i raise my voice slightly, but caps lock is what i use for anger.
On a serious note, this is just speculation, i shouldnt have blurted out why they wouldnt do this. Although, since WoW was made possible(and they raped the WC3 storyline to make WoW fit) dissidia 2 is never impossible. but Sony's console games have more respect for themselves after what they did with X-2
An alternate Dissidia would be great, actually. Taking other characters from the same game.
1 and 3 would be a bit hard to wrap into it, but Edge vs. The red guy that killed his clan(memory spasm) would be doable, so would Zack vs. Genesis, or even Yuna vs. Seymor.
I cant honestly think of a compatabile storyline that would coincide with dissidia 1, if they made a dissidia 2, they would have to spinoff 1's storyline, which would be hard. Itd be easier to make it another game.
@Kaijuyu; the way i said it, Crystal Chronicles shouldve gotten one to, because its its own story. but its not what i meant, and you summed it up at the end of that post
If i came off a bit stern i apologize, but you should know that i never really put my text into place with a sense of anger, if you read it that way, its not the way it was intended. exclimation points are what i use when i raise my voice slightly, but caps lock is what i use for anger.
On a serious note, this is just speculation, i shouldnt have blurted out why they wouldnt do this. Although, since WoW was made possible(and they raped the WC3 storyline to make WoW fit) dissidia 2 is never impossible. but Sony's console games have more respect for themselves after what they did with X-2
An alternate Dissidia would be great, actually. Taking other characters from the same game.
1 and 3 would be a bit hard to wrap into it, but Edge vs. The red guy that killed his clan(memory spasm) would be doable, so would Zack vs. Genesis, or even Yuna vs. Seymor.
I cant honestly think of a compatabile storyline that would coincide with dissidia 1, if they made a dissidia 2, they would have to spinoff 1's storyline, which would be hard. Itd be easier to make it another game.
@Kaijuyu; the way i said it, Crystal Chronicles shouldve gotten one to, because its its own story. but its not what i meant, and you summed it up at the end of that post
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Post by: Oblivion on April 02, 2009, 12:16:06 pm
Post by: Oblivion on April 02, 2009, 12:16:06 pm
to be realistic, dissidia's storyline doesn't make much since in the fact that the villains are still alive (except for golbez). seeing as sephiroth is alive in dissidia adds more to the fact that he can't actually die. as stated by sephiorth himself "I will never be a memory" as he continues to not die. the other villains (aside from golbez) died... i watched them die. Garland/Chaos, the Emporer, Cloud of Darkness, Kefka, Ultimecia, Kuja(i think) and Jecht all died in their respective games. No one knows what happened to Golbez after FF4 ended but he didn't die.
which brings me to my next statement. seeing how the characters already won, it appears that chaos and cosmos summoned the heroes and villains from a specific time period in their lives before the villain was defeated. So putting characters like vincent and weiss would be possible by summoning them from the dirge of cerberus timeline or summoning zack and genesis from the crisis core timeline. also seeing as that shantotto and gabranth are only playable in the storyline through the memory of cosmos (who btw is not dead) meaning that they don't exist in the actually story, anymore. So zack and genesis could have a similar role seeing as they come from the past. this theory will allow the characters from FFT, FFTA, and FFTA2 or other games with spinoffs to be included in the game.
and seeing as sentinal said that an alternate character would be added if a dissidia II was made, Barret from ff7 would go against Dyne (everyone else would pretty much see sephiroth as their villain seeing as no one in his world likes him).
oh and sora and riku wouldn't be good additions for a few good reasons:
1. These are toned down versions of the real FF characters, Sora has only fought his universe's versions of cloud, sephiroth, and squall/leon which btw are a lot weaker than the real characters. Sora and Riku would shit themselves trying to fight the real sephiroth.
2. It's dissidia final fantasy not dissida square-enix
dont get me wrong, i like kingdom hearts but it has nothing on final fantasy
which brings me to my next statement. seeing how the characters already won, it appears that chaos and cosmos summoned the heroes and villains from a specific time period in their lives before the villain was defeated. So putting characters like vincent and weiss would be possible by summoning them from the dirge of cerberus timeline or summoning zack and genesis from the crisis core timeline. also seeing as that shantotto and gabranth are only playable in the storyline through the memory of cosmos (who btw is not dead) meaning that they don't exist in the actually story, anymore. So zack and genesis could have a similar role seeing as they come from the past. this theory will allow the characters from FFT, FFTA, and FFTA2 or other games with spinoffs to be included in the game.
and seeing as sentinal said that an alternate character would be added if a dissidia II was made, Barret from ff7 would go against Dyne (everyone else would pretty much see sephiroth as their villain seeing as no one in his world likes him).
oh and sora and riku wouldn't be good additions for a few good reasons:
1. These are toned down versions of the real FF characters, Sora has only fought his universe's versions of cloud, sephiroth, and squall/leon which btw are a lot weaker than the real characters. Sora and Riku would shit themselves trying to fight the real sephiroth.
2. It's dissidia final fantasy not dissida square-enix
dont get me wrong, i like kingdom hearts but it has nothing on final fantasy
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Post by: Kaijyuu on April 02, 2009, 02:21:18 pm
Post by: Kaijyuu on April 02, 2009, 02:21:18 pm
I actually think sora/riku would be interesting characters to include. Can argue power levels all day, but honestly any villain would kick an average leveled hero's patootie one on one in their original games anyway. Also, KH is conspicuously lacking any squeenix content not from final fantasy.
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Post by: Cheetah on April 02, 2009, 10:51:33 pm
Post by: Cheetah on April 02, 2009, 10:51:33 pm
US Trailer for Dissidia I:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/47585.html (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/47585.html)
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/47585.html (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/47585.html)
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Post by: Kaijyuu on April 02, 2009, 11:36:32 pm
Post by: Kaijyuu on April 02, 2009, 11:36:32 pm
Darn gametrailers has been crashing firefox for me recently. Couldn't see the whole thing, though looks quite similar to the japanese trailer.
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Post by: Cheetah on April 02, 2009, 11:55:32 pm
Post by: Cheetah on April 02, 2009, 11:55:32 pm
Yeah it definitely wasn't anything special. The CG is so freaking good though, it is quite jaw dropping.
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Post by: Oblivion on April 03, 2009, 01:16:15 am
Post by: Oblivion on April 03, 2009, 01:16:15 am
I've been waiting for this.
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Post by: tithin on April 03, 2009, 04:53:13 am
Post by: tithin on April 03, 2009, 04:53:13 am
Quote from: "ehrgeiz20"to be realistic, dissidia's storyline doesn't make much since in the fact that the villains are still alive (except for golbez). seeing as sephiroth is alive in dissidia adds more to the fact that he can't actually die. as stated by sephiorth himself "I will never be a memory" as he continues to not die. the other villains (aside from golbez) died... i watched them die. Garland/Chaos, the Emporer, Cloud of Darkness, Kefka, Ultimecia, Kuja(i think) and Jecht all died in their respective games. No one knows what happened to Golbez after FF4 ended but he didn't die.
which brings me to my next statement. seeing how the characters already won, it appears that chaos and cosmos summoned the heroes and villains from a specific time period in their lives before the villain was defeated. So putting characters like vincent and weiss would be possible by summoning them from the dirge of cerberus timeline or summoning zack and genesis from the crisis core timeline. also seeing as that shantotto and gabranth are only playable in the storyline through the memory of cosmos (who btw is not dead) meaning that they don't exist in the actually story, anymore. So zack and genesis could have a similar role seeing as they come from the past. this theory will allow the characters from FFT, FFTA, and FFTA2 or other games with spinoffs to be included in the game.
and seeing as sentinal said that an alternate character would be added if a dissidia II was made, Barret from ff7 would go against Dyne (everyone else would pretty much see sephiroth as their villain seeing as no one in his world likes him).
oh and sora and riku wouldn't be good additions for a few good reasons:
1. These are toned down versions of the real FF characters, Sora has only fought his universe's versions of cloud, sephiroth, and squall/leon which btw are a lot weaker than the real characters. Sora and Riku would shit themselves trying to fight the real sephiroth.
2. It's dissidia final fantasy not dissida square-enix
dont get me wrong, i like kingdom hearts but it has nothing on final fantasy
you are looking into this too deeply