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Title: VK patch ALPHA bugs, notes etc
Post by: karsten on April 12, 2008, 09:26:55 am
just started playing around. so far:

the costs on magic swords seems on target.

squires on the first 2 battles have armours equipped, but doesn't seem a problem

ramza's class still have 4 move (might be ok)

got first gameover while trying to save algus. :D

edited: on that battle one of the squires had a crossbow O_O
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Post by: Lydyn on April 12, 2008, 02:00:18 pm
If the equipment of the squires is a problem, play with the event editor. They all have random equipment, but since you enable all equipment they can have anything from longbows to robes to armors to spears.
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Post by: Asmo X on April 13, 2008, 12:03:38 am
It sounds kind of cool to show up in a battle and see all these Squires with weird equipment combos.
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Post by: Lydyn on April 13, 2008, 12:07:55 am
I'd have to agree, except on the first battle... crossbows would be bad. xD
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Post by: Austin on April 13, 2008, 12:45:13 am
It's kind of lame when they pop up with stuff like rods and staffs though.
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Post by: Lydyn on April 13, 2008, 12:55:28 am
Quote from: "Austin"It's kind of lame when they pop up with stuff like rods and staffs though.

ROFLMAO!! xD
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Post by: karsten on April 13, 2008, 05:00:46 am
found a knight using an axe too... i have to say that it is interesting at most. it actually makes you check what enemies are equipped with  8)
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Post by: Asmo X on April 13, 2008, 10:26:01 am
If the new axes are eventually included (the ones that Zodiac came up with) they will inspire absolute terror.
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Post by: karsten on April 14, 2008, 06:55:02 am
by the way, i hope i'm not the only one running test!  :shock:
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Post by: Prinygod on April 14, 2008, 08:01:19 am
i have been running it. Did VincentCraven change the skill sets, be cause squire still has move +1 and jp up for my game. Thats the only thing on i've noticed on my part because i haven't had time to play yet
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Post by: karsten on April 14, 2008, 08:55:30 am
he made squires equip all and gave them only 3 move. so far skillsets are unchanged... it's mainly a version to check out the new classes and how well they play/melt in the game...
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Post by: NeedsMoreNoise on April 15, 2008, 01:42:51 am
No complaints so far, oddly enough. However, I'm thinking of creating a General Beatrix (from Final Fantasy 9) over the Undead Knight spritesheets and classes, to freshen things up a little. I'm not sure if I'll be able to make it look amazing, but eh.
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Post by: Xifanie on April 15, 2008, 06:54:54 am
...but there is no undead knight spritesheet. :O
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Post by: Zozma on April 15, 2008, 08:34:38 am
would she look sorta like this? well shes missing that belt and needs more work on the hair... ah well im not really gonna draw this character but i just sort of thought, "what if i tried it..."
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Post by: karsten on April 15, 2008, 10:00:33 am
Quote from: "Zozma"would she look sorta like this? well shes missing that belt and needs more work on the hair... ah well im not really gonna draw this character but i just sort of thought, "what if i tried it..."

fucking perfect! you are an  artist!

how about giving a go at my, vincen't and zodiac's sprites? ;)
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Post by: NeedsMoreNoise on April 15, 2008, 03:30:25 pm
Quote from: "Zozma"would she look sorta like this? well shes missing that belt and needs more work on the hair... ah well im not really gonna draw this character but i just sort of thought, "what if i tried it..."
Oh man, yes. xd

I'm editing her original outfit in mine, though. Her eyeband will be black to match her belt, and I don't know if I'm gonna keep the cape. I'm using the Dancer sprite as a base, too.
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Post by: Zozma on April 15, 2008, 04:59:42 pm
i used agrias' sprite, its actually a perfect template.

i could try working on sprites for yours. you got maybe some pictures i could go off of for those sprites?
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Post by: NeedsMoreNoise on April 15, 2008, 05:08:06 pm
Quote from: "Zozma"i used agrias' sprite, its actually a perfect template.

i could try working on sprites for yours. you got maybe some pictures i could go off of for those sprites?
(http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/9213/beatrixxz4.jpg)

I got it off of Google and thought it was a nice take on her.
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Post by: Zozma on April 15, 2008, 07:15:43 pm
there are so many good fan arts of her, i guess shes popular huh..?
i guess if one were to add her to the game they could make her start with the "Save the Queen" since it exists here too...

well if you guys like it that much i might as well continue eh? shouldnt be too hard after i do the hair from each direction...
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Post by: karsten on April 16, 2008, 04:39:17 am
Quote from: "Zozma"i used agrias' sprite, its actually a perfect template.

i could try working on sprites for yours. you got maybe some pictures i could go off of for those sprites?

i would let it up to your fantasy :) karsten is a solid cheap bastard that uses dirty tricks and fights 2 handedly.

vincent is a cowardly wind mage (so i guess with cape and all)

zodia i guess is something like a ninja...
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Post by: Zozma on April 16, 2008, 06:14:20 am
any guidelines or characters[or parts of characters] to base it off of? perhaps some hairdo's?

if i add her, i think ill give her a few modified versions of clouds limits plus some white magics.
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Post by: trickstardude7 on April 16, 2008, 06:18:24 am
oo nice! i thought that the vincent/karsten/zodiacs base sprites were made but you just need to finish
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Post by: karsten on April 16, 2008, 07:02:18 am
Quote from: "Zozma"any guidelines or characters[or parts of characters] to base it off of? perhaps some hairdo's?

just that karsten is dark haired and have beard like mine :wink:
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Post by: Zozma on April 17, 2008, 07:38:35 am
allright well ill give it a go!... cant promise anything quick tho, gotta think of what im gonna do.. plus i usually just create something at random, even the little beatrix sample was spontaneous hehe... still sprites can be added in at any time right? ill try to give you some good samples soon tho :)

did you have any sprites already? i thought i saw a picture of one once long time ago. still it doesnt have to be based off of that but if you have it may i also see it?
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Post by: trickstardude7 on April 17, 2008, 03:19:24 pm
i believe kuraudo made one for vincent and zodiac well here they are
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Post by: trickstardude7 on April 17, 2008, 03:24:35 pm
oh and karsten all by kuraudo
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Post by: Zozma on April 17, 2008, 09:00:03 pm
those would be quite easy to complete actually, still with the wind mage i was thinking of taking the knights cape and combining it with that shrine knight outfit... hmmm?
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Post by: NeedsMoreNoise on April 17, 2008, 09:15:33 pm
Quote from: "Zozma"those would be quite easy to complete actually, still with the wind mage i was thinking of taking the knights cape and combining it with that shrine knight outfit... hmmm?
Do you have any more previews for the Beatrix sprite? :O
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Post by: Zozma on April 17, 2008, 09:28:51 pm
not yet, still working on the basic directions after that itll be a cakewalk.

there are going to be too many specials to let them all join. ill probably make her a boss. with a red version of "Omnislash" renamed Climhazzard to resemble her version in ff9. like a really hard boss.... lol.

also karsten did u really want a mustache? this picture has one but if i base it more like your avatar id keep it off orill have to work on making a thinner one or something?.

so this sprite, if you spiced it up just a little bit you could go in this sort of direction... i probably can take the brown cloak and make it something else.
let me know if you're interested in this sprite's creation or something different.... now then also down to business.. i must remove about 2 or 3 colors... probably the best is that yellow/gold on the front side.... ill have to either remove that or make it one of the other colors on the sprite.
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Post by: karsten on April 18, 2008, 11:03:46 am
Quote from: "Zozma"not yet, still working on the basic directions after that itll be a cakewalk.

there are going to be too many specials to let them all join. ill probably make her a boss. with a red version of "Omnislash" renamed Climhazzard to resemble her version in ff9. like a really hard boss.... lol.

also karsten did u really want a mustache? this picture has one but if i base it more like your avatar id keep it off orill have to work on making a thinner one or something?.

so this sprite, if you spiced it up just a little bit you could go in this sort of direction... i probably can take the brown cloak and make it something else.
let me know if you're interested in this sprite's creation or something different.... now then also down to business.. i must remove about 2 or 3 colors... probably the best is that yellow/gold on the front side.... ill have to either remove that or make it one of the other colors on the sprite.

oh my it's soo great :shock:

edit: i would say face of 1, hairs of 2, beard of 2 closed
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Post by: Zozma on April 18, 2008, 07:58:04 pm
allright then, then ill do the sprite, (ill work on the portrait more later), i must let you know however that that little bit of gold on the outfit might have to be either be removed or recolored to another set of colors on the sprite (you pick) because i have just a few too many colors more than 16...

also i dont know if kuraudo ever made more frames for this sprite, but be sure he gets credit for putting together the origional alright? i only tweeked it a bit but i think i can finish this rather quickly once i start.
(where has he been anyway? havent seen recent posts... or maybe i havent seen them on the pages im usually on...) ohhh this was the "bugs" section wasnt it? i sort of derailed it didn't I? ah well...

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okay karsten, i had to remove the little gold belt buckle (to get 16 colors exactly) because i tried it with the different colors remaining and it didnt look right... is this okay? if so ill get started with the walking frames. plus, removing it separtes him even more so from orlandu...

(after i finish Karsten, beatrix will get some spotlight, however then its on to Zodiac and Vincent :), Karsten let the two know that im interested in creating sprites for them as well they are not limited to shrine knight uniforms, but it will be a much quicker process if the body parts already partially exist.... afterall you've provided this great site, "human" sprites are my strong-point let me give something back to u guys...) this particular one kind of makes me think of what the heavenly knight outfit would look like.....
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Post by: karsten on April 19, 2008, 07:52:41 am
Quote from: "Zozma"allright then, then ill do the sprite, (ill work on the portrait more later), i must let you know however that that little bit of gold on the outfit might have to be either be removed or recolored to another set of colors on the sprite (you pick) because i have just a few too many colors more than 16...

also i dont know if kuraudo ever made more frames for this sprite, but be sure he gets credit for putting together the origional alright? i only tweeked it a bit but i think i can finish this rather quickly once i start.
(where has he been anyway? havent seen recent posts... or maybe i havent seen them on the pages im usually on...) ohhh this was the "bugs" section wasnt it? i sort of derailed it didn't I? ah well...

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okay karsten, i had to remove the little gold belt buckle (to get 16 colors exactly) because i tried it with the different colors remaining and it didnt look right... is this okay? if so ill get started with the walking frames. plus, removing it separtes him even more so from orlandu...

(after i finish Karsten, beatrix will get some spotlight, however then its on to Zodiac and Vincent :)
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Post by: Xifanie on April 19, 2008, 09:07:06 am
One of our problems is that Vincent will look way too much like Wiggy; especially for the portrait.

Though, I suppose I'll make myself a completely new portrait.
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Post by: Xifanie on April 19, 2008, 09:34:38 am
This is me FFTized

The problem is that the eyes and mouth looked way too messy after resizing so I remove them, I'll leave that to you.  :)

Of course cut down the bottom part and put me in shiny armor. =D
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Post by: Zozma on April 22, 2008, 05:39:20 am
hmm testing is going pretty well...
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Post by: karsten on April 23, 2008, 02:07:23 am
this rocks :)
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Post by: Zozma on April 26, 2008, 04:59:49 am
sorry i havent put out the sprite yet, my nights havent been free for like a week so i havent been able to play around with anything at all :P but ill get there very soon
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Post by: Xifanie on April 26, 2008, 06:58:24 am
You are working at godspeed IMHO.

And anyway, we all have things that happen here and there; no need to be sorry about that.
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Post by: karsten on April 27, 2008, 02:39:54 pm
yes, thanks again. by the way i'm not disappeared but i have my holyday abroad
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Post by: Zozma on April 27, 2008, 11:32:06 pm
alright heres the sprite open for testing, the portrait can always be changed later. *note* i didn't actually test the singing animations.....
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Post by: Asmo X on April 27, 2008, 11:59:54 pm
That looks awesome. Kind of makes me wish I wasn't totally incompetent at making sprites.
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Post by: Xifanie on April 28, 2008, 07:01:03 am
Niiice! I wish melon would release his new shishi version soon with the new awesome capabilities it has.

Say, who do you plan on doing next?  :wink:
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Post by: Cheetah on April 28, 2008, 12:53:56 pm
Looks real good. The hair was definitely a good touch. It seems like hair is definitely one of your strong suits.
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Post by: Zozma on April 30, 2008, 04:41:41 pm
thanks, glad u guys like it :) also Kuraudo still seems to be working on the same karsten sprite that i tweaked up a bit, i tried to mention that i had done this one, but anyway id say give him the credit for this one anyway.

also zodiac... i saw that little portrait png you made is that the way u want the hair? and black? or do u like the redhead avatar picdture you have more? id like to get started but i also don't want to conflict with whatever kurado is doing either ya know?
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Post by: Xifanie on April 30, 2008, 05:47:19 pm
Well, the hair color came out pretty bad, You can use the shape of my head and probably the shape of the hair but do it the way you want. My hair is chestnut, not black like it shows. So in the end, do it in any way you like as long as my hair is a bit curly and dark chestnut.
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Post by: Zozma on April 30, 2008, 06:43:56 pm
i MIGHT be able to use that 20yo male picture as the template as well, (not the hair but the face. where IS vincent anyway? lol
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Post by: Xifanie on April 30, 2008, 07:04:33 pm
looks like philsov took him with himself.  :?

Edit: Oh, that's right the new shishi will have all the grouped body parts that are used in animation. You'll just have to load the sprite file and select the SHP type. That way you'll easily notice any graphical glitch.
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Post by: Zozma on April 30, 2008, 07:18:06 pm
ahh well, ill still create a sprite for him even tho i couldnt get any feedback on what he wanted it to look like. also wind mage? well i am trying to create a few wind spells.. i already made aero (1) by recoloring "gusty wind" to a green spell
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Post by: VincentCraven on May 03, 2008, 07:14:27 am
Oh sorry, I didn't realize anyone was expecting me to do stuff. I've been busy studying for my finals =D.

That, and I need to wipe my computer.  I'm using my parents computer right now, but the computer I usually use is extremely slow. It's like, 5 yrs old or something?

Anywho... hopefully you haven't started on it yet.  I would prefer to have a sprite without armor (based off a mage of some sort).
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Post by: Zozma on May 04, 2008, 01:24:59 am
havent started yet, havent had the chance to work on anything in the last week.
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Post by: VincentCraven on May 04, 2008, 09:01:04 am
Good.  If I have time, I may make it myself, so make my sprite a low priority if it isn't already.
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Post by: Zozma on May 04, 2008, 04:29:07 pm
theres a trick to creating a sprite easily and still making it look unique and good. beatrix for example, most of her parts are actually agrias with a few pixel modifications :) if you use a sprite template that you dont have to mess with the arms way too much then its easy.

alright zodiac, what kind of armor or clothing? pick something thats even remotely similar as far as sprite clothes.

also, i know she bears a great resemblance to jenna from gs as is, however if you gave the custom sprite i made for lavian a more gothic set of colors you could easily make her some sort of dark mage or necromancer type...
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Post by: Zozma on June 21, 2008, 05:33:12 am
okay... so i've really really had a tough time figuring out how to make zodiac look with only an avatar to work with.... this is just one of many experiments... i used a ninja sprite to get this...

if the arms are left near to how they appear in the picture, the sprite can be done relatively quickly... its just an idea tho nothing more
(also the blue pants and brown gloves are merely colors from the default ninja and can easily be changed ... and perhaps the shade of red in the hair as well, also armor could be put under the jacket instead of.. well nothing? hehe... hopefully the sprite is going in an ok direction but if not i can always use it for something else and go in a different direction for ya...
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Post by: Xifanie on June 21, 2008, 06:52:25 am
Dang...

Like, you could have asked me, no?  8)

If you really want everything to really look like me:
- I have curly (8/10) hair (mid length) but I straighten it sometimes (I'd prefer that actually) and the color is dark chestnut.
- I don't normally wear anything but pants, whoever that jacket is fucking nice so keep it as well as the shoes.
- Me with gloves? nah... BAR HANDS!

I'm really not sure about the hairstyle.

In any case, I'll update my avatar accordingly and make sure it's 16 colors.
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Post by: Zozma on June 21, 2008, 04:43:27 pm
yeah i remember mention about the hair, but for the sake of creating a sample i went with the current avatar, even tho the red would look better darker. it probably would be easier to create straitened hair but perhaps you have a sample of the hairstyle. don't worry about the hair ill get it the way you want it, but of course its a big part of the sprite so its an important part
for me to get right before i continue.
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Post by: Zozma on June 22, 2008, 05:39:21 pm
off topic, but i've seen people asking for the Balthier and Luso sprites would it be a good idea in addition to the customs added, to post them on the sprites section as well? i don't think everyone knows where to find them without this site, plus some don't have the psp version....

also this is just another experiment
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Post by: karsten on June 23, 2008, 02:11:34 am
ahah so nice, looks like FF8's  laguna  :D
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Post by: LastingDawn on June 23, 2008, 02:16:38 am
Hehe, it does look quite a bit like Laguna.
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Post by: Zozma on June 23, 2008, 03:14:46 am
hehe, perhaps you're right, the thought had occured to me as well even tho it wasn't my intent. i suppose if i were to give him longer hair in the back it really could pass as laguna. (and he still has those stylish ninja shoes <3)
(this whole sprite was a combo of 20yo male and male ninja, its a really funny coincidence that the jacket resembled laguna's after the combination....)

ill save that hairdo for later tho since im really just trying to guess how to make zodi's hair. curly would probably be hard to do with such small sprites...

first i just recolored the hair (which i really like that shade of brown, not enough in the game either...) it does look much better this color... the head

(before i added to it matches the 20 yo Male sprite which is what zodiac's current avatar is based off of... perhaps leaving out the hair in the front is a better choice so as not to be laguna? but should i make it longer somewhere else? hmmm anyway this should be a snap to animate fully once ive got the hair perfect.
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Post by: Xifanie on June 23, 2008, 05:57:10 am
Good hair color and the hair in front suits me.

Whoever the rest of the hair would need to be worked too. :O
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Post by: Zozma on June 26, 2008, 03:38:35 am
okay Zodiac, so after a little work on the sprite i tested out a color reduction and i'd like to know which of these 16 color pictures would you prefer.
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Post by: Xifanie on June 26, 2008, 05:45:37 am
Really hard choice but I think I'll go with #1.
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Post by: Zozma on June 26, 2008, 06:20:12 am
alrighty, that would have been my first choice as well, so option 1 it is ;)
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Post by: Zozma on June 28, 2008, 06:29:59 am
aaaalright progresssss....
still in the process of turning the gloves into bare hands but its going smoothly as planned.
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Post by: Cheetah on June 28, 2008, 10:32:28 am
I like the design. I think you might find you are going to need to add another shade to the hands to make them work well though. Currently they might end up looking like fleshy gloves when zoomed out. Is there no bare hands that you could just replace onto the arms? It should be a pretty cool looking sprite though.
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Post by: Xifanie on June 28, 2008, 11:15:02 am
=D looks awesome

I started working on my new avatar (as well as it being the game portrait).

Thanks to Asmo and Arch's comments & suggestions.
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Post by: Archael on June 28, 2008, 11:21:11 am
looks really good

 :D
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Post by: Xifanie on June 28, 2008, 04:58:38 pm
Pretty much done with new avatar, still open to comments & suggestions though.
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Post by: Cheetah on June 29, 2008, 01:24:17 am
Looks really good. It would be great if you could add a little more texture to his hair, but it is almost impossible to do that when you are actually working with just pixels instead of actual artwork (I sure can't do it). Yeah it looks pretty final to me.
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Post by: Zozma on June 29, 2008, 03:56:02 am
yeah the arms are the biggest undertaking of the project, first priority is ensuring all the other body animations are done, then making the section above the hands into wrists rather than gloves... im not sure id want to use a different arm set because the ninja arms link up perfectly to the jacket.

also your new avatar looks great it will go well with this sprite AND make it less laguna-ish and more you. the darkest shade of brown in the hair might be a little strong but it really does look great.

man i had so many ideas on how to make your sprite but its turning out much cooler than i expected.

im starting to get motivated to make my own sprite for once wooho.

Update below: (by the way i had a difficult time finding male sprites either without gloves AND with sleeves short enough to cut/paste the hands)
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Post by: Cheetah on June 29, 2008, 02:43:57 pm
Looking really good.
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Post by: Zozma on June 29, 2008, 07:42:48 pm
alright here is a beta version to backup my work and to let anyone test it out,

note: (gloves converted to hands not yet complete, in water animations not complete, portrait not added)

also how does this avatar look?
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Post by: VincentCraven on June 29, 2008, 08:28:32 pm
Wow Zozma, Zodiac looks badass.  How did you do it?

As for the avatar, it looks like there would be more hair in his face (looking at sprite) but it looks fine.
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Post by: Zozma on June 29, 2008, 09:27:33 pm
i merged the 20yo male and male ninja :D and the rest just sorta fell into place for me... as for the avatar, i only smoothed out zodiac's version but the thought had occurred to me about over the eye.

what about this?
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Post by: karsten on June 30, 2008, 02:06:57 am
beautiful work guys!
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Post by: Zozma on July 02, 2008, 03:15:37 am
Allrighty there may be one or two bugs but here you go!! enjoy
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Post by: Zozma on July 02, 2008, 08:56:50 pm
im very motivated to start my own sprite now! (god ive still gotta finish my berserker, and beatrix too wooohoo... lol)
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Post by: karsten on July 03, 2008, 02:06:24 am
zozma, you rock, really! :D
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Post by: Zozma on July 03, 2008, 02:27:16 am
hehe yeah shes definately in plans for the future
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Post by: Cheetah on July 03, 2008, 02:39:23 am
It is a good looking sprite, nice work. Though I would recommend posting it somewhere in the custom sprite section as well.
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Post by: Zozma on July 03, 2008, 03:45:35 am
yeah i suppose i should
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Post by: Xifanie on July 08, 2008, 05:36:54 am
Also, one thing: you forgot to flip the portrait; it really looks when talking.
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Post by: Zozma on July 12, 2008, 08:02:30 pm
okay i flipped the portrait updating the previous post... it can be found in the "sprites for download" topic