Title: Unit.bin Expansion Progress
Post by: SentinalBlade on March 01, 2009, 01:09:48 am
Post by: SentinalBlade on March 01, 2009, 01:09:48 am
Well guys, its been awhile since i picked this project up...
But as you know, i am very good at starting a project and then not delivering for a good long while.
While im waiting for my teammate(DarthPaul) to finish his ENTD changes, i thought id mess wiht this some
notice the Ultima Demon please~
(http://i42.tinypic.com/157wjp.jpg)
See how its blanked out? also notice serpentarius in there. a sprite normally to big to fit into unit.bin without hitting some other units.
(http://i44.tinypic.com/2vtxrpj.jpg)
See how the ultima demon has his pallete back?
I found where the palletes are linked in unit.bin!, now to find the job links~
P.S. yes, this is the japanese iso, i was testing things with the EVTGroup program.
But as you know, i am very good at starting a project and then not delivering for a good long while.
While im waiting for my teammate(DarthPaul) to finish his ENTD changes, i thought id mess wiht this some
notice the Ultima Demon please~
(http://i42.tinypic.com/157wjp.jpg)
See how its blanked out? also notice serpentarius in there. a sprite normally to big to fit into unit.bin without hitting some other units.
(http://i44.tinypic.com/2vtxrpj.jpg)
See how the ultima demon has his pallete back?
I found where the palletes are linked in unit.bin!, now to find the job links~
P.S. yes, this is the japanese iso, i was testing things with the EVTGroup program.
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Post by: gojoe on March 01, 2009, 01:34:00 am
Post by: gojoe on March 01, 2009, 01:34:00 am
......! if i didnt have morals and my heterosexuality i would totally
give you a high five
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Post by: Cheetah on March 01, 2009, 02:03:21 am
Post by: Cheetah on March 01, 2009, 02:03:21 am
Pretty impressive stuff, are you just doing this with hex editing?
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Post by: DarthPaul on March 01, 2009, 07:26:01 pm
Post by: DarthPaul on March 01, 2009, 07:26:01 pm
Your ENTD changes have arrived via PM a few hours ago SB.
Tried to make the battles a bit gimmicky but with some challenge to them.
Tried to make the battles a bit gimmicky but with some challenge to them.
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Post by: Archael on March 01, 2009, 08:46:33 pm
Post by: Archael on March 01, 2009, 08:46:33 pm
this is great
I know the unit.BIN and those palette issues were giving LD quite a bit of trouble before
also, dp, I didn't know you were helping him with the ENTD
that's pretty cool, I am really looking forward to what's gonna happen with those sprites SB is working on
SB is it possible to have EVERY sprite in an ISO properly displayed in the unit.bin? is that the ultimate goal?
I know the unit.BIN and those palette issues were giving LD quite a bit of trouble before
also, dp, I didn't know you were helping him with the ENTD
that's pretty cool, I am really looking forward to what's gonna happen with those sprites SB is working on
SB is it possible to have EVERY sprite in an ISO properly displayed in the unit.bin? is that the ultimate goal?
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Post by: DarthPaul on March 01, 2009, 08:52:47 pm
Post by: DarthPaul on March 01, 2009, 08:52:47 pm
Yea he recruited me months ago. When he didn't tell me what he wanted done I just took things into my own hands.
The current changes I sent him only cover chapter 1 though I shall be working on more after the funeral on wednesday.
The current changes I sent him only cover chapter 1 though I shall be working on more after the funeral on wednesday.
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Post by: Zozma on March 01, 2009, 09:25:00 pm
Post by: Zozma on March 01, 2009, 09:25:00 pm
nice, good to see this being worked on again
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Post by: SentinalBlade on March 01, 2009, 10:23:33 pm
Post by: SentinalBlade on March 01, 2009, 10:23:33 pm
Thats the goal arch. Its mostly able to do it, with 63 new spots for a unit...(monsters just recognizing different palletes) Just really confusing to set up a new sprite, i had to take some space in a few other files...ill have to give in to zodiacs limitations eventually...but thats after i perfect whats goin on.
And thanks again DP, i really appreaciate that. it gave me time to work on Scarlet Mage
And thanks again DP, i really appreaciate that. it gave me time to work on Scarlet Mage
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Post by: Cheetah on March 01, 2009, 11:30:17 pm
Post by: Cheetah on March 01, 2009, 11:30:17 pm
I would also look into the possibility of having all the jobs retain all five of their palettes in unit.bin. Then potentially there could be a hack so that you could recruit a character with any palette and have it show correctly in menus and battle. Though there would have to be much more involved in this to have it happen.
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Post by: SentinalBlade on March 02, 2009, 12:52:23 am
Post by: SentinalBlade on March 02, 2009, 12:52:23 am
Im not sure. i think there is a check that makes sure the pallete is reverted to the first one. i can set it up like i would monsters...
Original sprite ID, offset for pallete data, and so forth
But im pretty that the game makes it revert to the first pallete as the next battles its automatically pallete 1. If zodiac or someone found a way around that, setting it up in unit.bin is no problem, as i already have it set up to load the they would need to be.
Original sprite ID, offset for pallete data, and so forth
But im pretty that the game makes it revert to the first pallete as the next battles its automatically pallete 1. If zodiac or someone found a way around that, setting it up in unit.bin is no problem, as i already have it set up to load the they would need to be.
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Post by: Cheetah on March 02, 2009, 01:30:46 am
Post by: Cheetah on March 02, 2009, 01:30:46 am
Hmm very interesting, this is definitely something I would love to have looked into.
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Post by: Zozma on March 02, 2009, 10:17:54 am
Post by: Zozma on March 02, 2009, 10:17:54 am
to let them retain their different palettes is definitely more trouble than its worth, im quite sure of that. you have to consider that the game is only to set the other pallets through entd and has no way of knowing that their palette was different once you go back to the map. no data is saved saying "this" character uses palette 2 instead of palette 0 etc...
also, once you have made this fix how many of the jobs will be able to have their own...? would be ideal for everything to show up properly.. what if you add a sprite for all the default characters good and bad, not alternate generic palettes tho.
also, once you have made this fix how many of the jobs will be able to have their own...? would be ideal for everything to show up properly.. what if you add a sprite for all the default characters good and bad, not alternate generic palettes tho.
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Post by: SydneySoul on March 02, 2009, 10:39:35 am
Post by: SydneySoul on March 02, 2009, 10:39:35 am
Awesome work! <3
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Post by: SentinalBlade on March 02, 2009, 06:47:27 pm
Post by: SentinalBlade on March 02, 2009, 06:47:27 pm
theres 63 spots^^
and there is support for large monsters like lucavi. but each lucavi takes 2 spots instead of one.
As it stands, everyone can be put into the unit.bin
and there is support for large monsters like lucavi. but each lucavi takes 2 spots instead of one.
As it stands, everyone can be put into the unit.bin
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Post by: Bloodthirster0 on March 02, 2009, 07:00:45 pm
Post by: Bloodthirster0 on March 02, 2009, 07:00:45 pm
I didnt understand exactly the 63 spots,is it for a bigger party,more sprites or something like this?
even with that stupid doubts(I lack on technical FFT),it still a great advancing and an outstanding work
even with that stupid doubts(I lack on technical FFT),it still a great advancing and an outstanding work
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Post by: Zozma on March 02, 2009, 07:38:19 pm
Post by: Zozma on March 02, 2009, 07:38:19 pm
k, so provided that you do not add any more lucavi, + get rid of serpentarius who doesnt belong there in the first place, but leave all the normal monsters... there is how many human slots (excluding the generics that shouldnt be removed) ?
and then, how would one go about assigning these slots?
and then, how would one go about assigning these slots?
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Post by: SentinalBlade on March 02, 2009, 08:54:47 pm
Post by: SentinalBlade on March 02, 2009, 08:54:47 pm
There is alot of kinks in it, but the basics are 63 total slots
lets exclude lucavi frmo this example.
You only need 1 spot for a monster. it will load the pallete according to job, like normal unit.bin
excluding generic jobs, there is 41 spots.
thats 41 unique characters. LOTS of space.
Using the space in world.bin, unit.bin loads the pallete and sprite designated in world.bin. Its. basically its just copy and paste out of a 1 frame.bmp
ill explain it when i understand what the fuck im doing more in depth.
lets exclude lucavi frmo this example.
You only need 1 spot for a monster. it will load the pallete according to job, like normal unit.bin
excluding generic jobs, there is 41 spots.
thats 41 unique characters. LOTS of space.
Using the space in world.bin, unit.bin loads the pallete and sprite designated in world.bin. Its. basically its just copy and paste out of a 1 frame.bmp
ill explain it when i understand what the fuck im doing more in depth.
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Post by: Zozma on March 02, 2009, 10:02:54 pm
Post by: Zozma on March 02, 2009, 10:02:54 pm
it would allow me to make all the guests appear in the menu again....
but it would be nice to have an editor for this new unit.bin like that japanese program... -_-
but it would be nice to have an editor for this new unit.bin like that japanese program... -_-
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Post by: CidIII on March 05, 2009, 04:54:42 pm
Post by: CidIII on March 05, 2009, 04:54:42 pm
Does this mean that there will be more space for portraits too?
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Post by: SentinalBlade on March 06, 2009, 03:09:14 am
Post by: SentinalBlade on March 06, 2009, 03:09:14 am
your running out of portrait room? :O
there are still unused portraits in worldface.bin, i didnt think portrait room was an issue...
there are still unused portraits in worldface.bin, i didnt think portrait room was an issue...
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Post by: Zozma on March 06, 2009, 12:29:47 pm
Post by: Zozma on March 06, 2009, 12:29:47 pm
the only issue is assigning them to the proper jobs as well
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Post by: Azrael on April 28, 2009, 06:33:33 pm
Post by: Azrael on April 28, 2009, 06:33:33 pm
..is this still being worked on..? It'd be like a dream-come-true to have so much room available for custom sprites and portraits... o_O
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Post by: Zozma on April 28, 2009, 07:54:48 pm
Post by: Zozma on April 28, 2009, 07:54:48 pm
its a dream that only comes true within another dream -_-