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Title: Wouldn't it be neat if
Post by: Dokurider on January 20, 2009, 02:16:42 pm
...if the Zodiac Signs played a bigger role in FFT? As in they would influence what those units would be, since that the whole idea behind Astrology, that the stars you were born under influence your life. For an example, Serpentarii would be influenced to be healers, since being a Serpentarius boost healing power. And Saggitarii would be influenced to be rangers like Archers, as they would receive some kind of boost. Stuff like that, that'd be awesome.
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Post by: Vanya on January 20, 2009, 02:39:07 pm
A zodiac sign based stat boost for specific jobs sounds like it would be awesome. It would be a pretty big ASM project though. Maybe you should talk to Zodiac or Razele about it? ^_^
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Post by: VincentCraven on January 20, 2009, 03:05:55 pm
I do not approve of the vague topic title.

But I do agree that having a system to make characters more class static, and the best way to go about that appears to be said idea.
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Post by: DarthPaul on January 20, 2009, 03:10:17 pm
And have all the enemies match up to increase the difficulty I think you have a brilliant idea here if it ever get's implemented.
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Post by: VincentCraven on January 20, 2009, 03:25:25 pm
Considering the player has access to this too, I doubt it significantly increases the difficulty.

Now the question is, which class matches with which sign?  Some signs will have at least 2...
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Post by: DarthPaul on January 20, 2009, 03:30:12 pm
The thing is you will have to train characters in jobs they aren't suited for too that's what I meant by difficulty boost.
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Post by: Dokurider on January 20, 2009, 04:29:57 pm
Quote from: "VincentCraven"I do not approve of the vague topic title.

Sorry. I'm really bad with coming up with good titles for things. It's screwed me over many times.
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Post by: Archael on January 20, 2009, 04:32:31 pm
Having a system with such obvious boosts to a particular role would kill the whole point of the job system...

Every (Example) Sagittarius would be an Archer

Every (Example) Serpentarius would be a Healer




boring fast

a la WOW
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Post by: Dokurider on January 20, 2009, 04:41:13 pm
Anywho, I was thinking that they should be based on the mythology of the signs. For example, Gemini is commonly associated with Castor and Pollux. Castor and Pollux are typically associated with horses. Maybe a riding bonus?
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Post by: Dokurider on January 20, 2009, 04:44:34 pm
Quote from: "Voldemort7"Having a system with such obvious boosts to a particular role would kill the whole point of the job system...

Every (Example) Sagittarius would be an Archer

Every (Example) Serpentarius would be a Healer




boring fast

a la WOW

So you're saying the boosts should be more subtle?
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Post by: philsov on January 20, 2009, 04:58:53 pm
any amount of subtlety would be equally matched in degree of min-maxing by players such as myself.
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Post by: Dokurider on January 20, 2009, 05:18:53 pm
Maybe I should have something more defensive in mind. Like Sagittarii have less damage done to them by ranged weapons. Hmm...
*strokes chin*
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Post by: Archael on January 20, 2009, 05:27:35 pm
look at Male vs Female

every Female is a MA based job

every male is a PA based job


imagine that, but with jobs and zodiacs instead of sexes and jobs
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Post by: Vanya on January 20, 2009, 05:55:42 pm
Quote from: "Voldemort7"look at Male vs Female

every Female is a MA based job

every male is a PA based job


imagine that, but with jobs and zodiacs instead of sexes and jobs

Not in my patch. I'm going to make the m/f differences much more subtle or non existant.
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Post by: Archael on January 20, 2009, 07:41:04 pm
Quote from: "Vanya"
Quote from: "Voldemort7"look at Male vs Female

every Female is a MA based job

every male is a PA based job


imagine that, but with jobs and zodiacs instead of sexes and jobs

Not in my patch. I'm going to make the m/f differences much more subtle or non existant.

I'm not talking about your patch, Vanya.

I was giving an example...
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Post by: Dokurider on January 20, 2009, 07:48:28 pm
Dreambreaker.
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Post by: Vanya on January 20, 2009, 10:40:08 pm
Dream not broken; just requires a little more effort to balance it out. Razele already posted info on the pre-base stat thing that makes males & females different. That part would be easy to balance. ^_^
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Post by: Dokurider on January 21, 2009, 10:46:59 am
Well, I said Sagittarii would be good with ranged weapons, not just Bows, so it wouldn't be as bad as Arch made it out to be. Beside, gender doesn't stop me from using males in magic classes and visa versa.
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Post by: Vanya on January 21, 2009, 02:29:45 pm
But what sorts of bonuses would the other signs get? Also, would the Lucavi also get a bonus or perhaps an even larger bonus? ^_^
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Post by: Dokurider on January 21, 2009, 02:38:30 pm
Lol I dunno yet. I have to do research on the mythos behind each sign. I pulled up Saggitarius and Serpentarius alot because what it should be immediately leaps out at me. I just don't know about the Lucavi yet. Maybe.
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Post by: Dokurider on January 21, 2009, 02:43:00 pm
Well, I did do some research on Scorpio last night.

Scorpio was a servant of Artemis, who was summoned to kill Orion after he raped one of her servants or something, nobody knows for sure. After the scorpion killed Orion, as a debt of gratitude, Artemis put him up in the stars.

So, this is the myth of revenge. I'm thinking that Scorpios should get a boost with Counter. Maybe even Countermagic and Counterflood.
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Post by: Vanya on January 21, 2009, 02:49:31 pm
Interesting ideas there. Each zodiac sign would need it's own ASM hack. ^_^
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Post by: Dokurider on January 21, 2009, 03:37:08 pm
Did a little more research today:

Aquarius (Make what you will of this):

QuoteAccording to the Greek mythology, Aquarius was 'cup-bearer to the Gods', Ganymede. Ganymede was the son of Tros, king of Troy. While tending his father's flocks on Mount Ida, Ganymede was spotted by Zeus. The king of gods became so enamored of the boy that he disguised into an eagle (represented by the constellation Aquila) whisking Ganymede off to Olympus, "home of the gods" to be cup-bearer to the gods. Ever since, the boy has served as the cupbearer of the Greek gods.

From Wikipedia.

...okay. Since he's a servant to the gods, I'm thinking Aquarius' power should be one of servititude. But I'm drawing blanks here.

However I was thinking about Gemini over lunch, and I realized, the power Gemini should have has been staring me in the face this whole time, Two Swords boost. So obvious. Since Saggittarius is the opposite of Gemini, I'm thinking Saggitarii should get Two Hands, it maye even be allowed to include forced two hand weapons, like Axes, and Bows.