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Modding => Spriting => Topic started by: Kenshin72 on January 14, 2009, 01:01:43 pm

Title: Link Lives and I need help.
Post by: Kenshin72 on January 14, 2009, 01:01:43 pm
First off, sorry its taken me so long and he still isn't done, but it'll be cool if someone somewhere would like to help me with a portrait. I can't do them at all. Here's my most updated spritesheet. You can tell I still need some time but hopefully really soon, he'll be done and the Hero Of Time will be ready to rock in Ivalice, trying to save Ovelia instead of Zelda.
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Post by: LastingDawn on January 14, 2009, 02:13:13 pm
Quite nice! Looks like progress has gone well on Link!
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Post by: Kenshin72 on January 14, 2009, 02:59:39 pm
One thing I know I have to fix is, if you look at his shoulder from the back view, there are green pointy shoulder pads, those are remnants of the thief's bandana. I just noticed it.
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Post by: Zalge on January 14, 2009, 04:05:43 pm
wow, that really is quite well done. I never thought that anyone would make a link sprite... I just might have to steal and use it in my patch >=D (xD)
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Post by: Cheetah on January 14, 2009, 09:41:44 pm
Looking good Kenshin.
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Post by: Vanya on January 14, 2009, 09:53:39 pm
very nice! ^_^
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Post by: dwib on January 14, 2009, 10:45:05 pm
lookin good!! keep it up bromigo (yeah, bro + amigo)
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Post by: Curu on January 15, 2009, 01:19:08 am
Which version of Link?
Twilight Princess?
Ocarina of Time?
Link's Awakening?
Oracle of Seasons?
Zelda?
The Adventure of Link?
Specifics are nice.
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Post by: Kenshin72 on January 15, 2009, 10:07:12 am
It was Ocarina Of Time. At one point I had Navi also in there but it was to hard to get her to have correct animations.
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Post by: Curu on January 16, 2009, 10:37:38 pm
Tsk... Good enough.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/Link.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/Link2.png)
I don't much care for it but I don't feel like messing with it more.
TAKE IT OR LEAVE, you don't like it well toooo baaaad.
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Post by: Zozma on January 16, 2009, 10:53:20 pm
i think it was very well done actually
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Post by: Asmo X on January 16, 2009, 11:20:21 pm
yeah that owns. Perhaps you could have a crack at the portrait for the red mage. I remember the hat causing all sorts of trouble
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Post by: Zalge on January 16, 2009, 11:25:37 pm
Quote from: "Curu"Tsk... Good enough.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/Link.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Sparksfox/Link2.png)
I don't much care for it but I don't feel like messing with it more.
TAKE IT OR LEAVE, you don't like it well toooo baaaad.
Holy shiznit. Curu, if I sent you a picture of myself, would you make a portrait of me? xD
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Post by: CidIII on January 16, 2009, 11:27:16 pm
It's very good, but was there not enough room for blue eyes?
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Post by: Curu on January 16, 2009, 11:32:14 pm
That's 16 colors. So, no, not enough room.
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Post by: Zozma on January 17, 2009, 12:43:25 am
cid its not worth sacrificing some color shading for the blue eyes..
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Post by: CidIII on January 17, 2009, 12:55:10 am
Yes, I agree, I as just making sure though :D
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Post by: Kenshin72 on January 17, 2009, 01:14:28 am
Wow, thats... really good. Ill have the sprite ready ASAP for that.
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Post by: Zozma on January 17, 2009, 01:28:06 am
yea link looks good kenshin
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Post by: Kenshin72 on January 17, 2009, 02:08:45 am
Quick question, do we know where the weapon and armor sprites are located? I wanna edit a sword into the master sword and shield into the hylian shield.
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Post by: Zozma on January 17, 2009, 02:25:07 am
i think Lasting Dawn does
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Post by: Algus on January 17, 2009, 04:54:46 am
Somebody can fix my hair ? it is to gray+white.


(http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo151/tharikh/Ari.gif)
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Post by: Vanya on January 17, 2009, 04:56:01 am
That would be WEP.SPR that has the in game graphics. But, we don't know to edit what weapon is linked to what animation yet. ^_^
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Post by: Kenshin72 on January 17, 2009, 12:38:27 pm
But I can still make em so when we do we will have the Master Sword right?
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Post by: CidIII on January 17, 2009, 02:24:09 pm
You can edit in-game inventory icons...
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Post by: Vanya on January 17, 2009, 03:31:52 pm
You can change which ever sword animation you like, but every sword that is linked to that animation will look like the master sword. Same for the shields.
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Post by: DarthPaul on January 17, 2009, 03:42:40 pm
You could make them one of a kind, buta that could cause some problems so one of the knight swords would probably need to be changed.
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Post by: Zalge on January 17, 2009, 04:54:11 pm
You could change the Materia Blade to the Master Sword =P but then you'd probably have to cut out Cloud
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Post by: Zozma on January 17, 2009, 04:57:27 pm
no u could just make limits not require that specific sword
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Post by: CidIII on January 17, 2009, 07:11:39 pm
Just do the Nagrarock no one uses that anyways.
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Post by: Vanya on January 17, 2009, 07:57:27 pm
Umm... my point is that every weapon animation is shared by at least 2 weapons or more. They're just recolored.
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Post by: Zozma on January 17, 2009, 08:03:48 pm
at the most id just suggest using the animations the weapons already have and just rename it. (i mean really, dont u think the materia blade should have looked like the buster sword? but no that looks just the same as the nagrarok when you slash)
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Post by: Archael on January 17, 2009, 09:24:09 pm
Materia Blade needs to look like the Ragnarok when you slash!!

Ultima Weapon, HO!!!!!
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Post by: Zozma on January 17, 2009, 09:41:28 pm
that was my thoughts about materia blade actually
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Post by: Cheetah on January 18, 2009, 12:13:59 am
The portrait looks really good Curu. You are a definite artist. My only criticism is that the ear looks a little odd, perhaps too long and flat.
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Post by: CidIII on January 18, 2009, 12:53:39 am
Yeah, I think the ears a little too long.

http://www.zeldaelements.net/games_main ... 0/0045.jpg (http://www.zeldaelements.net/games_main/5/behindscenes/beta20/0045.jpg)
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Post by: Curu on January 18, 2009, 01:10:52 am
http://zs.ffshrine.org/album/ocarina-of-time/art/oot-link07.gif
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Post by: Cheetah on January 18, 2009, 02:32:58 am
Oh hoho. I'm seeing a major debate starting up here. I personally think Curu's original portrait looks fine. My fiancee on the other hand is throwing a fit about this as she is a long time Zelda fan. Here are her thoughts:

Zelda's hat makes him look like a nun. It needs more shape and bulk to not look like a habit (apparently that is what the weird hats nuns wear are called). The ears should look like how they are in the actual game and not the character art (she made some analogy about clothing designs and that the practical use of a design should be considered the true design since it is what is more feasible). Closing statement: "It looks like a fucking habit."
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Post by: Angel on January 18, 2009, 03:27:31 am
Personally, I think more bulk would make it look even more nunly. It's a long floppy cap, and you don't have the luxury of seeing the entire shape of it in a portrait. I say it's fine as it is, unless you've a preference for shorter ears.

And a long-time Zelda fan should know his name is Link. :p </catty>
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Post by: Cheetah on January 18, 2009, 04:10:43 am
Haha well I wrote this up, and I'm not a big Zelda fan. The whole name the game after the character you don't actually play as doesn't really make sense to me.
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Post by: Curu on January 18, 2009, 04:19:25 am
She is entitled to her personal opinions, whether I agree with them or not. Regardless of how a debate goes I am not changing it, if someone else wants to change it they can go right ahead as I don't rightly care about the piece. Further more I will always use a piece of concept art when available over a 3D rendered model, especially a low poly count one, the only exception being if I can open the model file in 3DS Max to rotate and examine it, but I still wont use it if it's a low quality 3D rendering as seen in most 64 titles.

Also, I see Etna.
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Post by: Angel on January 18, 2009, 07:49:06 am
Quote from: "Curu"Also, I see Etna.
Heh, yeah, though I'm not completely happy with it. Pixel art isn't my forte - I'd rather scan my line art, paint it, and resize. Unfortunately, my attempts at doing so look rather Dr Seuss, so I've been faking it as best I can.
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Post by: DarthPaul on January 18, 2009, 08:33:11 am
On the ears debate I always lean towards the character art in any game. The in game images are abject to change to fit the style of the game or because of limitations in the software. I agree with Curu long ears stay because that is the way the designer of the character see him, and that's how it goes.
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Post by: Cheetah on January 18, 2009, 01:21:15 pm
All sounds good to me. I'm sure the japanese hacking site will be very jealous, lets get this submitted to the sprite section.
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Post by: DarthPaul on January 18, 2009, 02:13:48 pm
They won't be jealous they will just "borrow" it.
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Post by: Zozma on January 18, 2009, 02:44:18 pm
borrow it like "yeah i used bla bla bla as the base and made it totally on my own, (pasting a poorly done advent children version of the picture over it kind of borrow it....)"
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Post by: Archael on January 18, 2009, 02:44:44 pm
Quote from: "Cheetah"All sounds good to me. I'm sure the japanese hacking site will be very jealous, lets get this submitted to the sprite section.


the jap hacking site visits us often?
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Post by: DarthPaul on January 18, 2009, 02:58:24 pm
Very often.
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Post by: CidIII on January 18, 2009, 03:11:34 pm
Link's class should be able to equip Bows and Swords. And, maybe a special harp that looks like an ocarina.
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Post by: DarthPaul on January 18, 2009, 04:21:32 pm
Give him a special skill for each of his special items and maybe edit a ninja bomb for him to use.
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Post by: CidIII on January 18, 2009, 04:22:39 pm
Yeah and innate Equip Change.
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Post by: DarthPaul on January 18, 2009, 04:24:43 pm
His class is gonna be like a jack of all trades, also to imitate shovel innate move find item.
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Post by: CidIII on January 18, 2009, 04:31:40 pm
Lol, Link is so tight. I want to play OoT and Majora's Mask so badly now, but my N64 always turns off and on at random times.
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Post by: Kenshin72 on January 19, 2009, 02:10:04 pm
Woot! Some downtime finally, I can work on Link.

Been busy for awhile.
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Post by: Archael on January 19, 2009, 10:36:07 pm
Quote from: "darthpaul"Very often.

I didn't know..

Is there some drama or something?



Do we need to invade them?
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Post by: DarthPaul on January 19, 2009, 10:38:37 pm
They're not worth invading and we have yet to confront them.

I figure we just ignore them and if they actually make something good we will just take it and leave them a thank you note.
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Post by: Kuraudo Sutoraifu on January 20, 2009, 12:01:51 am
Quote from: "Voldemort7"Is there some drama or something?

The site took the Link sprite, Zoz's Barret, and my Cloud and gave no credit to any of us.  It's not entirely a big deal, but it'd be nice if it they would give us at least credit.
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Post by: CidIII on January 20, 2009, 12:03:54 am
They already took the Link sprite?
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Post by: Zalge on January 20, 2009, 12:05:39 am
Quote from: "Kuraudo Sutoraifu"
Quote from: "Voldemort7"Is there some drama or something?

The site took the Link sprite, Zoz's Barret, and my Cloud and gave no credit to any of us.  It's not entirely a big deal, but it'd be nice if it they would give us at least credit.
Are you f*cking serious? gimme a link, we aughta give them hell for this.
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Post by: Kuraudo Sutoraifu on January 20, 2009, 12:31:37 am
They took it a LONG time ago, when it was just birthed.
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Post by: Zozma on January 20, 2009, 12:57:22 am
oh well, fuck those guys.
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Post by: Kenshin72 on January 20, 2009, 07:02:03 am
Quote from: "Zozma"oh well, fuck those guys.

Yeah, fuck em hard... Oh wait... nvm...
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Post by: Zalge on January 20, 2009, 07:36:30 am
Just watch those bastards have freak out with rage when Algus, the shrine knight, is added to the list of custom sprites >=D I wonder if they'll like it enough. xD
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Post by: DarthPaul on January 20, 2009, 10:48:45 am
.........Is anyone overly exited about an Algus sprite no matter how good it will look.
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Post by: Cheetah on January 20, 2009, 02:33:24 pm
The most excited I ever got about Algus is when Zozma had him shoot in the fucking heart by Teta.
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Post by: DarthPaul on January 20, 2009, 03:05:42 pm
^ My thoughts exactly, even if you make a patch where he is innocent or awesome whatever he will always be "that fucking douche".
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Post by: Zozma on January 20, 2009, 04:10:22 pm
lol should i put tietra back in the place of the squire that shoots him?
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Post by: Zalge on January 20, 2009, 04:14:33 pm
Quote from: "darthpaul".........Is anyone overly exited about an Algus sprite no matter how good it will look.
I am =D
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Post by: DarthPaul on January 20, 2009, 04:16:24 pm
Quote from: "Zozma"lol should i put tietra back in the place of the squire that shoots him?


I think so but at the same time I'm kinda torn because she is Tietra after all.
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Post by: Zalge on January 20, 2009, 04:18:12 pm
Quote from: "Zalge"
Quote from: "darthpaul".........Is anyone overly exited about an Algus sprite no matter how good it will look.
I am =D
Also, you guys are going to love the situation I put "that fucking douche" in, in my patch. If you want to know, then I'll tell you, but I don't feel like ruining it by posting it on the forum. Send a message.
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Post by: DarthPaul on January 20, 2009, 04:19:16 pm
Actually if it is horrible on his part I would like to know.
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Post by: Zalge on January 20, 2009, 04:24:54 pm
Quote from: "darthpaul"Actually if it is horrible on his part I would like to know.
Fine. Since he does die at fort Ziekden, while he was revived as a zombie by Elmdor, he was re-killed right after. The Ex-Shrine knights found the name Sadalfas in history, and seeing how they ended up, they decided to revive Algus. They revived him from a multitude of other crystal stratums(the crystals that are left behind when someone dies). He looked perfectly fine, but, sadly for him, the crystals weren't sufficient and his body's molecular structure is breaking down. Basically, his revived body is degrading. Eventually his body will break down completely and he will cease to exist. Even his soul will be gone.

Now, if you want to know WHAT he is trying to do to stop it, send me a message, cause its a MAJOR plot point.
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Post by: Zalge on January 22, 2009, 05:37:05 pm
I wrote up a Link skill set.
(NOTE: "Text - Text" basically means they are a series of skills that do basically the same thing, like fire, fira, etc.)

Job: Hero of Time
Skill Set: Hylian Skills
Innates: Equip Change, Defend, Move-find Item
Action: Slingshot - Boomerang - Hero's Bow, Deku Nuts - Bombs - Bombchu, Hookshot, Din's Fire, Naryu's Love, Farore's Wind, Red Potion (consumes an X-potion), Green Potion (Consumes a Hi-Ether), Ocarina - Zelda's Lullaby, Ocarina - Song of Time, Ocarina - Song of Healing, Ocarina - Sun Song
Passive: Silver Gauntlets (+1 PA, +2 MA), Golden Gauntlets (+2 PA, +1 MA), Mirror Shield (Innate Reflect)
Movement: Feather Boots (Moving adds Float), Iron Boots (-1 Move, - 1 Jump, No Knockback ever)
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Post by: Angel on January 22, 2009, 06:19:16 pm
I would think it would be more interesting to actually make a Mirror Shield item than give him an auto-reflect support ability. Could make a Master Sword item, too. I'm not sure how you'd handle the ocarina, though...
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Post by: Zalge on January 22, 2009, 06:39:28 pm
Quote from: "superjupi"I would think it would be more interesting to actually make a Mirror Shield item than give him an auto-reflect support ability. Could make a Master Sword item, too. I'm not sure how you'd handle the ocarina, though...
The Ocarina would just have to be in his spell animations.
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Post by: Xeno3 on July 28, 2009, 01:28:23 am
so was this sprite ever finished?
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Post by: Zalge on July 30, 2009, 10:24:43 am
Not that I know of, but I would like it if someone was willing to give it a shot and finish it.
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Post by: Xeno3 on July 30, 2009, 09:45:29 pm
Oh I thought it would of been done by now, I  was hoping for a reply saying it was finished, but hey I'm patient. hope to see it finished soon though.
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Post by: Zalge on July 31, 2009, 10:42:30 am
Well, the work started back in January, I'm pretty sure the original creator isn't working on it anymore.
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Post by: Zozma on July 31, 2009, 06:09:43 pm
yeah whats up with the link sprite, how come its not on the downloads section by now?
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Post by: RAMee on August 07, 2009, 05:44:31 am
The portrait is jaw-droppingly amazing.
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Post by: Kenshin72 on November 02, 2009, 07:44:07 pm
This sucks balls. My computer won't turn on so whoever wants to take the sprite and finish it is more than welcome. I think the one posted on here is pretty recent. Just give me credit okay?
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Post by: Cheetah on November 02, 2009, 07:52:01 pm
This sprite does need to be finished. It is a bit messy in parts but it is at least a good design. The skin tones really need some work, but the portrait is freaking amazing. Everyone just take a look at the first couple posts for what you need to get started.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 03, 2009, 12:12:34 am
Smash did a frame of Link too ^^
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Post by: Cheetah on November 03, 2009, 02:12:07 am
Quote from: "jimmyjw88"Smash did a frame of Link too ^^

Where is it Jimmy, can you post a link? (hehe I made a funny)
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 03, 2009, 02:19:32 am
Sure. Here: http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/viewtop ... ght=#41695 (http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=41695&highlight=#41695)
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on November 03, 2009, 02:32:10 am
Everything Smash do seems custom. :P
*envious*
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 03, 2009, 02:36:13 am
Yeah, if I have a small percentage of his skills, that would be awesome ^^
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Post by: mav on November 03, 2009, 07:22:50 am
Oh man, that Link looks beautiful too, but it looks like it'd be a bitch to complete. The one in this topic is pretty good as well, it just needs to be finished and completely touched up...The portrait is solid too--let's not lose it.
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Post by: Zalge on November 03, 2009, 07:50:05 am
Smash's link, it looks nice. But it looks so custom, I can't imagine what character was used as a base or anything! If we knew the base sprite and any parts that were specifically taken from other sprites then it would be much simple to complete Smash's link... not saying that it would be easy, just simple.
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Post by: Cheetah on November 03, 2009, 12:08:51 pm
I believe all of Smash's sprites are completely custom, he only used other sprites as visual reference. But we can still use some of his design ideas, colors, and at least the head to improve on the base that currently exists.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on November 04, 2009, 11:50:51 am
Yeah, Smash's work are total custom. Though the current Link in the first page looks good ^^
Can't compare that with Smash's as his is a whole new level of skill. And yes, Link portrait by Curu...Please do not lose it. I doubt there's anyone can come up with a better Link portrait.
Title: Re: Link Lives and I need help.
Post by: Kenshin72 on August 24, 2010, 02:01:37 pm
I'm very unhappy with how his hat looks in these frames. Anyone want to try to redesign it or give me some ideas on how to fix it?

EDIT: All that green in his tights has been removed and his skirt has been redone.
Title: Re: Link Lives and I need help.
Post by: Jon on August 24, 2010, 06:07:47 pm
Link doesn't wear a skirt, its a long tunic >_> yeah...thats it...anyways your hat looks actually better than mine, but it could use a bit of a raise against gravity. The tights are alright, but replace those shoes, Link wears boots. I know this will sound like a bad idea (considering you are basing this Link off of the Ocarina of Time one) but get rid of/change the strap/belt thing that he wears across his chest, to me it looks weird, thats just my opinion, I bet others will tell you to leave it alone. The green on the tights wasn't removed in the 1st and 3rd frame btw. Keep at this, this will be a great sprite!
Title: Re: Link Lives and I need help.
Post by: Kenshin72 on August 24, 2010, 06:29:01 pm
I may have said I removed the green but I didn't update the pictures. And in the third frame you'll notice his shoulder jags out, that is the remnant of the female thief bandana which has been fixed. Skirt/Tunic has been redone so it doesn't resemble the thief's shorts anymore.
Title: Re: Link Lives and I need help.
Post by: SilvasRuin on August 26, 2010, 12:08:36 am
It may be cartoony, but this is the best Link design I've ever seen.  Notice the subtle chain mail and the fact that he's wearing actual pants and not tights.  I don't know if the chainmail can be properly conveyed in a sprite, but the rest of the clothing design would do well for the appearance I think.
http://www.sitsam.com/wordpress/wp-cont ... -Sword.jpg (http://www.sitsam.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Legend-of-Zelda-Skyward-Sword.jpg)
Title: Re: Link Lives and I need help.
Post by: Jon on August 26, 2010, 05:58:02 pm
Hey Silvas, they should remake the first Zelda from the NES and use that pic as a base. One problem that artist overlooked is that I think Link is left handed, but besides that, the chain-mail could work because in the SNES game Link wears "blue mail" and "red mail". I think I might devout some time to a young Link based from the Ramza (ch.1) sprite, but after I'm done with the cactuar. Funny thing is, on a gravestone in FF1 for the GBA, it says "Here lies Link", maybe SquarEnix had some problems with the Legend of Zelda or something...and here we are trying to make a Link sprite for FFT...
Title: Re: Link Lives and I need help.
Post by: SilvasRuin on August 26, 2010, 06:17:55 pm
That Link is for the next Wii game, so no, that wasn't an oversight.  He's right handed for the same reason they flipped everything for the Wii version of Twilight Princess:  most players will be right handed.

Square seemed to poke fun of and get poked fun at by Nintendo and Enix both.  As far as I can tell, it was all just friendly, teasing easter eggs, not anything hostile.