Final Fantasy Hacktics

uhm i know that i recently posted this on another part of this forum [and this post could get locked] but here it goes anyway.

i know i'm making the impossible happen by requesting this but can someone make a mod of final fantasy tactics? what i mean is, new story new jobs, new skills, new battlefields, new characters, new sprites, new everything minus the fmv, [well except the opening zodiac brave that is.] maybe you guys can base it on when st. ajora was still alive. it's not like i doubt your abilities to make a completely new game but it would be really cool to see one. i'll pay to play that one. yeah. thanks and please post on what you think.

or maybe make the story line start at the beginning of the 50-year war, or as i said the time when st. ajora was still alive.

There are a lot of projects going on right now that are basically completely new. Check out Mercenaries or FFT Remix.

yeah i know. hope someone takes note of my idea. about the 50-year war or about the time when ajora was still alive. i read some posts on this forums about their ideas and some strike me as surprising. i wont say the project's name [or patch name for that matter] but some patches tend to go for the sequel or prequel. what i needed to know was how did the zodiac stones or the zodiac braves exist? or if they played a significant part in the 50-year war. as ramza said, "time and again whenever ivalice is in chaos, the zodiac braves come and save the day and disappear once again."

Once someone gets done with a project, making a prequel to FFT centering around the 50 year war would be a good idea. I'm currently producing a Sequel to FFT

Yeah I'll get right on that

FYI I doubt Asmo means that.

Oh rubbish.

Asmo is a patch making fiend.

Yea I'll believe that when I see it.

Asmo is basically the creative genuis behind many of the projects at FFH, without him a few of our most popular projects would hardly look like they do today, it is unwise to doubt Asmo's sagacity.

I wasn't doubting his sagacity I was doubting his ability to not be a twit to people but if you guys have his back maybe there is a heart in there somewhere after all.

uhm....i appreciate everyone who took note of my post, and i hope someone make a patch of it. i'm currently making a storyline for final fantasy tactics codenamed "zodiac beginnings". i'll post a .txt document as soon as i get done the first 2 chapters. thanks.

anyways, here's what i plan to go with the story.....

so is ivalice in fft and ivalice in ff12 connected? well,  i would like to assume that it is possible. considering that in fft mustadio said that "during the time of st. ajora, machines flied in the sky and robots walked the earth." so ff12 has those things. although the viera and those pig-like creatures and the bangga where no-where to be found on fft. i would like to go with they were just kind of extinct during the time of fft. in ff12 a viera leaving their forest cannot survive very long. so maybe there were reasons for them to be extinct. hehehe. although its just me but hey, its just an idea right?

Dude no one is going to make a patch for you. Are you fucking retarded or something?

Sorry altimitt, that's not how things work.

We give you the tools.  YOU make the patch.

95% of the time, if someone comes up the an idea it will die unless the person who came up with the idea is aggressive enough to make it happen himself.

I suppose our sarcasm was missed on you, but now you know.  Now Asmo is really good about giving feedback, as LD has said, but he most certainly isn't going to make YOUR patch for you.

But if you get something started yet need serious help to work out kinks, you can come back and ask us for tips on getting around your problems.

Quote from: "Asmo X"Yeah I'll get right on that

Quote from: "Asmo X"Dude no one is going to make a patch for you. Are you fucking retarded or something?

SEEEEE SEEE SEE.

Quoteso is ivalice in fft and ivalice in ff12 connected?

In practice?  No.

If some game dev told you that Yuna was Jenova's mother, what would you say?

And any possible plot holes created by this revelation can be answered with a simple "a wizard did it."

Quote from: "philsov"

Quoteso is ivalice in fft and ivalice in ff12 connected?

In practice?  No.

If some game dev told you that Yuna was Jenova's mother, what would you say?

And any possible plot holes created by this revelation can be answered with a simple "a wizard did it."

Technically, they could be the same Ivalice, just many hundreds of years, possibly thousands apart. St. Ajora is mentioned in the history of both FF12 and FFT's Ivalices. Sadly, there are no other real connections, and we cannot know if they are the same, because none of the games have the entire world map (well, FF12 might, but I haven't played through it completely)

In this picture, you can obviously see that the map we have there is NOT the entire world, as the land extends further east, and there is another landmass to the north-west
(http://www.ffshrine.org/fft/world_map.jpg)

and you can see in this map, that the land extends west! None of the games have the entire world map =P
(http://twobrothersandasister.com/wp-content/images/games/ff12/maps/Ivalice-World-Map.jpg)

Quote from: "philsov"

Quoteso is ivalice in fft and ivalice in ff12 connected?

In practice?  No.

If some game dev told you that Yuna was Jenova's mother, what would you say?

And any possible plot holes created by this revelation can be answered with a simple "a wizard did it."

Umm... but SE even says they are connected. Even Vagrant Story is in the same Ivalice and that's not even an FF.

UPDATE!: I have even more information they are connected!

(http://i42.tinypic.com/2vj60pk.jpg)
(http://i43.tinypic.com/jhtvn8.jpg)

Look at the pieces I have surrounded with boxes... looks really similar, right? and by similar, I mean the same! They are the same world, this world is just... REALLY REALLY HUGE!!!

QuoteUmm... but SE even says they are connected. Even Vagrant Story is in the same Ivalice and that's not even an FF.

yes, SE is the game developer pulling references out of its ass for profit.  There's no interaction between any of the games short of name dropping, must less the creation of plot holes that's easily fixed by poor writing that makes most fanfiction literature worthy.

QuoteLook at the pieces I have surrounded with boxes... looks really similar, right? and by similar, I mean the same! They are the same world, this world is just... REALLY REALLY HUGE!!!

Truthfully when this argument comes up people usually connect the eastern part of FFT to the western part of FFXII and go "ZOMG BIG MAP", but once again they are, for all practical purposes, completely different universes.  I could just as easily say that the events of FF5 and FF3 are on the same planet, just that so much time passed between the two that all the lands/mountains are different and/or there was some great catastrophy that reshaped the face of the planet.  But really!  They're the same thing!

Quoteyes, SE is the game developer pulling references out of its ass for profit. There's no interaction between any of the games short of name dropping, must less the creation of plot holes that's easily fixed by poor writing that makes most fanfiction literature worthy.

^ this

it's all about $$$

Ivalice Alliance is a gimmick for $$$

Quote from: "Voldemort7"it's all about $$$

Ivalice Alliance is a gimmick for $$$

Maybe it is for money, but you can't really argue since you aren't on the development team.

Then again it all comes back to the imagination of the players. Those who'd want to make a storyline believing  the Ivalice Alliance or those who don't. I honestly would play a patch done either way.

Quote from: "ShadowX"

Quote from: "Voldemort7"it's all about $$$

Ivalice Alliance is a gimmick for $$$

Maybe it is for money, but you can't really argue since you aren't on the development team.

Then again it all comes back to the imagination of the players. Those who'd want to make a storyline believing  the Ivalice Alliance or those who don't. I honestly would play a patch done either way.

I'm not saying don't make a patch based on it because Ivalice Alliance is a gimmicky cash cow $$$ for Square.

I'm saying Ivalice Alliance is a gimmicky cash cow for Square.

I don't think one needs to be on Square's dev team (if that is what you were suggesting) to see that is what they were trying to do.

Other gaming companies have done it, and will continue to do it, I think someone outside their dev teams can see this.

Indeed people get $ signs in their eyes when they see a gimmick as good as Ivalice Alliance and no amount of common sense will talk them out of raping that idea to a bloody pulp.

Since this may be relevant to my own patch (which philsov will apparently hate for Great Justice), I have to ask: What is this Ivalice Alliance?

I've neither seen nor heard of it before this page, including when I was perusing FFCompendium specifically for stuff relevant to Ivalice.

(@ OP: You're going to have to make your own patch. Kind of obvious.  )

It is the new games SE is working on focusing on Ivalice to make a story out of it.

Quote from: "Asmo X"Dude no one is going to make a patch for you. Are you fucking retarded or something?

although i said "i hope someone make a patch of it." it doesn't mean:

----"hey, you, RANDOM DUDE. make me patch pronto."-----

as i said at my post, "i hope someone takes note of this."

what i had in mind that time was if someone made that patch i'll be more than glad to play it, despite whatever it may have [crappy dialog, unbalanced characters, etc.] that's what revisions are for right?

and another thing i'm just pointing out a minor dialog in fft wherein mustadio said that "during the time of st. ajora.....blah blah blah....."

ivalice during st. ajora's time would be a great setting for a fft prequel.
maybe that's just me, eh?

although you guys can disregard this minor point.
it doesn't really matter, it can serve as a basic setting for any story [like ivalice alliance does] but only this time you dudes get to write your scripts yourselves.

What the fuck does that even mean that you "hope someone takes note of this"? Do you care if someone makes it or not? If not, why ask? As Vincent says, thats not how it works around here. We don't "hope" that someone will pick up our patch ideas. If you want to see this made, there are plenty of resources you can use to learn how to do it.

Who knows how far I'll go, but I gathered up all the info about the war from the game, and I'm going to make the main characters The Sable Swords (mentioned in a feat), who are going to fight against the troops Gaffgarion leads because of his cruelty.  Simon joins as a guest, Ramza's father joins at the end of the game (like an Orlandeau) and there is a sidequest where you help Elidibus (future member of the party) find a tomb, the Cataclysm, to help fight off the Romandan and Ordalian Empires.  Any help would be appreciated...lol

Quotewhich philsov will apparently hate for Great Justice

I'm a gameplay slut.  The storyline could feature Chip and Dale trying to save Flash Gordon from a Dune sandworm for all I care.

Actually, that sounds pretty badass.