Final Fantasy Hacktics

General => Archives => Old Project Ideas => Topic started by: Zuka on January 05, 2009, 12:27:07 pm

Title: If this thread could be purged please.
Post by: Zuka on January 05, 2009, 12:27:07 pm
If this thread could be purged I'd appreciate it, the patch has changed far too radically for this thread to remain relevant, though I won't post a new thread about the patch to prevent spamming. Though if this cannot or will not be purged then I understand and will try to adapt this thread.

For the time being you can find my most recent work at
http://www.geocities.com/deusincarnum/index.htm (http://www.geocities.com/deusincarnum/index.htm)
There isn't much info about it but the patch itself can be downloaded there for play-testing or shits and giggles purposes.
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Post by: Goomba on January 05, 2009, 03:26:20 pm
This will be fun! I'm looking at the changes in the FFpatcher right now. I LOVE what you did to the job classes. You can expect my feedback really soon. :D
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Post by: Zalge on January 05, 2009, 04:03:21 pm
I guess I'll test it?
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Post by: Zuka on January 05, 2009, 04:10:47 pm
Quote from: "Goomba"This will be fun! I'm looking at the changes in the FFpatcher right now. I LOVE what you did to the job classes. You can expect my feedback really soon. :D

Thank you so much, I'm really looking forward to the ideas, there's a lot I still want to do and it's still very open to change, but it'll help a lot to know what is already good. ^^

And Zalge that sounds awesome, I look forward to hearing any tips you might have. I'd like to note that I have had tons of problems with tacTEXT so none of the text has been updated in the game.
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Post by: Goomba on January 05, 2009, 05:28:28 pm
Okay, I just got finished beating another random on Mandalia plains. The farthest jobs I've seen are Thief and Oracle. So far, throw stone is KING. The squire class really packs a huge punch. These extra moves totally make them more useful.

 Allowing lots of jobs to equip Xbows was a really good idea. They don't get much love in Vanilla. Extra ranged attacks for more delicate characters is perfect, even if they don't have the PA to deal a lot of damage. Ev'ry little bit helps. Giving the Bow Gun gil taking = genius.


I'll give you the rest of my thoughts after I finish chapter 1.
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Post by: Tokwa on January 05, 2009, 05:56:24 pm
nice :]
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Post by: Zuka on January 06, 2009, 12:00:28 am
Quote from: "Goomba"So far, throw stone is KING. The squire class really packs a huge punch. These extra moves totally make them more useful.

I love all the good things you have to say about the patch thus far, but my concern is that maybe it's still too easy? I mean, I've had different feedback from a couple of at home friends, but I don't know.

btw, thank you very much Tokwa
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Post by: psp master on January 06, 2009, 07:59:21 am
Does it work on PSP?
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Post by: DarthPaul on January 06, 2009, 10:30:09 am
Yo PSPM why don't you patch the PSX version get the prog to change it inot an eboot and play it on your PSP that way you can stop asking because I can guarentee that 80% of the patches being worked on right now won't be made into PSP versions till they are perfected on the PSX version.
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Post by: Goomba on January 15, 2009, 12:10:39 am
Okay, I'll be restarting again with the new version of your patch, so I won't make any plot line or difficulty suggestions until I've played your new edits. What I will say is that I noticed you're a huge fan of the <random> support/reaction/subclass selection, and that a ton of battles that would have been more difficult have been total push overs because the enemies would grab totally useless skills.



Stuff like catch and walk on water is completely worthless to NPCs unless in specific circumstances, which you could easily set in the ENTD, and other moves like move get EXP, gil game heart and monster talk serve no purpose. These fights would be much more challenging if you zero'd out all of the chances of NPCs learning moves that don't benefit them.
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Post by: Zuka on January 18, 2009, 11:17:38 am
okay cool, thank you for the pointers Goomba, I'll be re-patching some stuff later on then, right now this site has been up and down so i haven't been able to consistantly work on the patch a lot (life got suddenly busy) but I will go in and change the likeliness to learn some of the more useless abilities, I'm very thankful for the constructive critisism, and I really appreciate your efforts thus far to help with the patch. Over the next couple of days I will find al the time I can to work on the patch and implement changes to the NPC's list of learnable skills, or of learned ones, if I decide to change them in the ENTD rather than the abilities editor...
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Post by: VincentCraven on January 18, 2009, 12:17:50 pm
I don't know who else besides Asmo chewed you out, but if you decide to comeback, know that most of the members of our community tend to be supportive and criticize constructively.

I apologize if I too came off as rather abrasive, but I tend to be rather technical and objective.  Some issues have been hammered at for so long, that things are taken as fact and "proof" is usually required to make the other side have much weight in an argument.

So umm, if you change your mind you are more than welcome to rejoin.
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Post by: Asmo X on January 18, 2009, 12:22:11 pm
I gave constructive criticism. He said that Jump sucked, I gave several reasons why it didn't and then he whinged about how I was "attacking" him. And you know how I hate whingers.
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Post by: Zuka on January 18, 2009, 12:46:00 pm
Quote from: "Asmo X"I gave constructive criticism. He said that Jump sucked, I gave several reasons why it didn't and then he whinged about how I was "attacking" him. And you know how I hate whingers.

Look I didn't want a fight, we had a difference in opinion and i was interested in knowing your side, right up until you said my opinion was the dumbest thing you'd ever heard, and I'm sorry if you thought I was whining, but i don't see how that's very constructive... I respect your opinions on this forum as someone who has a great deal of experience with modding tactics, and I honestly expected a more intellectual exchange of ideas, and am more shocked than offended, I might come back to the site, but it's proven of very little use to me, since the only opinions I seem to get commonly are "That's wrong" followed by no suggestions for what would be right, and every-time I call out for a little feedback it seems as though only one or two people have anything to say, and it's rarely actual feedback... Sorry if anyone is disappointed in my leaving or if I've made a rash decision in doing so, but I just don't think all the time I spend on this forum and site is very well spent considering I've been basically solo in nearly every aspect of my mod creation, honestly, I feel as though I'd have been better off just learning to hex-edit. I don't mean this as offensive to anyone, though i understand a few people may take it that way, I think the community for what it's worth is a good one, and it seems as though you've all formed a very tight clique, but therein lies my problem, I don't really fit into this clique, and it has been made apparent to me many times over... Goodbye all it was nice while it lasted.

Oh and Vincent, you didn't come off as abrasive, I like a more technical approach to the conversation.

Again I'd like to make it clear that everyone here has my utmost respect, for all their experience in playing and patching tactics, but it's all a bit too clique oriented for me.
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Post by: Archael on January 18, 2009, 12:46:51 pm
Everyone who has posted in this topic apparently is acting like they didn't read the topic title!

Fuck hacktics... I'm out

Coupled with the description:

Fuck hacktics, I'm out, every time I disagree with someone I'm called an idiot, this is a childish practice, and I won't partake,

No, fuck you!!!

What in the fuck, dude?

Not everyone on the internet is going to agree with you.

It has nothing to do with childishness, but on a site that is based on creative work which is ALWAYS going to get criticized, good or bad.

If you can't face this reality, then I suggest you stop all creative work immediately, or atleast stop submitting it to communities such as this one, because it will ALWAYS get criticized.

As for people giving negative opinions about your character, fuck em, why are you taking it personally?

It might help if you didn't name the patch SWORDSKILLSLOL EDITION too.

Cya.
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Post by: DarthPaul on January 18, 2009, 12:50:56 pm
See ya Zuka I had a good feeling about you because some of your ideas had merit, but if your gonna leave best wishes in your future escapades.

EDIT: @Arch I never noticed the title of the thread I just saw it five minutes ago, and assumed he changed it and decided to leave.
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Post by: Zuka on January 18, 2009, 12:52:59 pm
Sorry to offend you Voldemort, yours is among the opinions I most respect, I don't think everyone should or will agree with me, I just don't see how it's appropriate to attack my character (or intellect) in a conversation about a tactics skill.

Darthpaul, I'll miss ya homey, same to LastingDawn, Voldemort, Zodiac, and all the others with whom I have had good conversations, and debates.

|| Edit || Any suggestions for a better name? I'm all ears, Swordskills edition is just a generic title, like naming something "Imagefortransfer.jpg" it was never intended to be a final name.

Asmo I was trying to tie up loose ends, but I guess no more
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Post by: Asmo X on January 18, 2009, 12:57:43 pm
This guy has already made 2 posts since he retired from FFH half an hour ago. He's the Ric Flair of hacking.
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Post by: DarthPaul on January 18, 2009, 01:00:22 pm
Wow that was harsh Asmo. Ric Flair come on.
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Post by: Shade on January 18, 2009, 01:01:08 pm
lol?

You should come to sites where is spriters they like to fuck people up.
There every day someone leaves with recolors sprites say that people in forums are mother fuckers and gay.
That's moment when I go lol.

It's hilarius.
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Post by: Archael on January 18, 2009, 01:04:04 pm
Quote from: "Shade"lol?

You should come to sites where is spriters they like to fuck people up.
There every day someone leaves with recolors sprites say that people in forums are mother fuckers and gay.
That's moment when I go lol.

It's hilarius.

Shade is right

the criticism harshness here is like 5% of what you see in other game related editing sites
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Post by: Shade on January 18, 2009, 01:09:34 pm
Experinced.
Have done it too.
Also if I can get criticism someone really noob it would be his last day on forum.
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Post by: dwib on January 18, 2009, 01:33:28 pm
this is the most pathetic thread
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Post by: Goomba on January 18, 2009, 03:29:00 pm
K.
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Post by: CidIII on January 18, 2009, 03:45:41 pm
This is a massive whine fest, you're never going to get anywhere in life if you cry and run away from criticism. I never used to like to take criticism either, but as soon as I did; I became a more intelligent person. Even if the criticism is incorrect the exchanging of ideas is what advances the idea.

I think you need to grow up, and I hope you realize that making a little topic, like this, is probably the most childish thing you can do, and it is an obvious ploy for attention.
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Post by: DarthPaul on January 18, 2009, 04:19:36 pm
Cid the third for the win I guess.
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Post by: dwib on January 18, 2009, 08:56:40 pm
Quote from: "darthpaul"Zuka for the fail I guess.

:D
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Post by: DarthPaul on January 18, 2009, 10:32:37 pm
Thank you for that correction dwib.
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Post by: Goomba on January 18, 2009, 10:43:57 pm
:(


Asmo X's victims grow by the day. First Jacob, and now Zuka!
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Post by: DarthPaul on January 18, 2009, 10:45:04 pm
Hopefully Jacob will be back one day.
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Post by: Asmo X on January 18, 2009, 11:11:59 pm
I ran Lydyn off the board too but he came back. Then he left again but that had nothing to do with me.
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Post by: DarthPaul on January 18, 2009, 11:18:01 pm
I had almost forgotten about Lydyn I wonder what he is up to.
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Post by: MagiTek v1.0 on January 19, 2009, 01:24:48 am
This was an awkward thread wasn't it? The mod does sound good though, too bad I don't care enough to talk to him about it.
However, Cid is right, he never actually LEFT after he posted this he stuck around for awhile to see what attention he could grab, then left.
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Post by: DarthPaul on January 19, 2009, 09:46:00 am
He'll be back this place has to much to offer for him to just up and leave because of Asmo.
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Post by: VincentCraven on January 19, 2009, 01:46:11 pm
I am also rather capricious and disappear from communities only to reappear suddenly several months later like nothing happened.

It's one thing to cross the bridge and explore the forest on the other side, but burning the bridge as you cross just isn't cool.

[/singing]
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Post by: philsov on January 19, 2009, 01:56:53 pm
(http://3alleypub.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/beating_a_dead_horse.jpg)
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Post by: Archael on January 19, 2009, 02:17:07 pm
Quote from: "philsov"(http://3alleypub.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/beating_a_dead_horse.jpg)

LMAO

win

I had never seen that one before
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Post by: Archael on January 19, 2009, 02:17:48 pm
Quote from: "darthpaul"He'll be back this place has to much to offer for him to just up and leave because of Asmo.

yeah or he'll come back as another nick


IP CHECKERS, HO!!!!!
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Post by: DarthPaul on January 19, 2009, 03:02:17 pm
Quote from: "Voldemort7"
Quote from: "darthpaul"He'll be back this place has to much to offer for him to just up and leave because of Asmo.

yeah or he'll come back as another nick


IP CHECKERS, HO!!!!!

Very likely or he has already set up another nick and was burning the bridge with a plan.
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Post by: ffta707 on October 11, 2009, 05:24:40 pm
Quote from: "darthpaul"Yo PSPM why don't you patch the PSX version get the prog to change it inot an eboot and play it on your PSP that way you can stop asking because I can guarentee that 80% of the patches being worked on right now won't be made into PSP versions till they are perfected on the PSX version.

Your excactly right.

EDIT: I wrote that before i saw what the forum was about... Don't worry Asmo, I won't coward out because of some criticism, you barley even do much of it. I mean, I get on zophars domain and the fucking manegers allready on my ass lol.