Title: Does this look odd?A re-transition into spriting. (Kefka)
Post by: CidIII on December 18, 2008, 10:33:19 pm
Post by: CidIII on December 18, 2008, 10:33:19 pm
Well, I've recently (just now) tried to get back into spriting. I saw all my unfinished projects and decided it would be a shame to let them go to waste.
I'm trying to pick up on Kefka. But, I think his first walking animation looks a little odd. I'm not talking about his legs or his feet, mostly his upper body. Tell me what you think. Also, what do you think about the brightest green shade? I know it needs to be changed.
Frontside Rough Motion Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLEb2hQGFgI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLEb2hQGFgI)
Backside Rough Motion Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQrlrfE3gRg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQrlrfE3gRg)
I'm trying to pick up on Kefka. But, I think his first walking animation looks a little odd. I'm not talking about his legs or his feet, mostly his upper body. Tell me what you think. Also, what do you think about the brightest green shade? I know it needs to be changed.
Frontside Rough Motion Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLEb2hQGFgI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLEb2hQGFgI)
Backside Rough Motion Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQrlrfE3gRg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQrlrfE3gRg)
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Post by: Vanya on December 18, 2008, 11:10:04 pm
Post by: Vanya on December 18, 2008, 11:10:04 pm
He looks like he's doing a cossack dance.
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Post by: CidIII on December 18, 2008, 11:18:47 pm
Post by: CidIII on December 18, 2008, 11:18:47 pm
Lol, the legs are supposed to do that, for that particular frame.
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Post by: Vanya on December 19, 2008, 12:47:17 am
Post by: Vanya on December 19, 2008, 12:47:17 am
I think it's because they might be too far to the left.
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Post by: Jacob31593 on December 19, 2008, 05:12:17 am
Post by: Jacob31593 on December 19, 2008, 05:12:17 am
i think it looks good, i like the colors too, but why does he have rosy cheeks? :p
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Post by: Zozma on December 19, 2008, 11:17:24 am
Post by: Zozma on December 19, 2008, 11:17:24 am
you havent seen a picture of Kefka from ff6 have you?
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Post by: Cheetah on December 19, 2008, 01:02:39 pm
Post by: Cheetah on December 19, 2008, 01:02:39 pm
The best way to tell if he looks odd is by putting right beside your base sprite. I have to kind of agree with Vanya and that maybe your legs are somehow one pixel to the left.
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Post by: Jacob31593 on December 19, 2008, 02:08:37 pm
Post by: Jacob31593 on December 19, 2008, 02:08:37 pm
Quote from: "Zozma"you havent seen a picture of Kefka from ff6 have you?
oh i thought this was just some guy named kefka, never played ff6, well i have but i quit after in the beginning i saw biggs and wedge o.O just decided to gtfo
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Post by: Zozma on December 19, 2008, 03:50:59 pm
Post by: Zozma on December 19, 2008, 03:50:59 pm
quit because u saw biggs and wedge?
lol, they dont last long man, they arent even good guys.
lol, they dont last long man, they arent even good guys.
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Post by: DarthPaul on December 19, 2008, 04:01:07 pm
Post by: DarthPaul on December 19, 2008, 04:01:07 pm
The best Biggs and Wedge are the FF7 ones. And the FF6 ones where eh.
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Post by: Zozma on December 19, 2008, 04:06:37 pm
Post by: Zozma on December 19, 2008, 04:06:37 pm
yeah, the first time i ever remember seeing them was ff6
but without their magitek gear they were useless.
the ones in ff7 were much cooler. well the whole avalanche crew was pretty cool. i wished Biggs and Jessie were temporarily playable. would have been sweet to shark them back in lol... tubby wedge? ehh he could stay an npc lol
and then the ff8 Biggs and Wedge were more similar to the ff6 ones except there was a lot more time for their characters to develope.
i think they tried to make those two ongoing characters but were they in 9? i dont recall. i know they were in 10 as blitz ball players which i never played.
ehem, anyway this is about Kefka
but without their magitek gear they were useless.
the ones in ff7 were much cooler. well the whole avalanche crew was pretty cool. i wished Biggs and Jessie were temporarily playable. would have been sweet to shark them back in lol... tubby wedge? ehh he could stay an npc lol
and then the ff8 Biggs and Wedge were more similar to the ff6 ones except there was a lot more time for their characters to develope.
i think they tried to make those two ongoing characters but were they in 9? i dont recall. i know they were in 10 as blitz ball players which i never played.
ehem, anyway this is about Kefka
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Post by: DarthPaul on December 19, 2008, 04:09:18 pm
Post by: DarthPaul on December 19, 2008, 04:09:18 pm
The only thing worse than loosing Biggs, Wedge, and Jessie was probably losing Aeris and that's it. Fuck when Cloud fell into the lifestream that was just his way of showing weakness.
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Post by: Zozma on December 19, 2008, 04:15:08 pm
Post by: Zozma on December 19, 2008, 04:15:08 pm
that was his way of showing you who he REALLY was, because thru everything leading up to that... your basically playing as a hollow version of Zack if you really think about it.
so kefka looked more like this!
so kefka looked more like this!
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Post by: Zozma on December 19, 2008, 04:16:18 pm
Post by: Zozma on December 19, 2008, 04:16:18 pm
oops! i mean this
seriously tho... see the ff6 sprite? cid is pretty close here
i do suggest putting the white speck for the eye tho as the flesh color certainly makes it look odd, especially in the direct forward frame.
seriously tho... see the ff6 sprite? cid is pretty close here
i do suggest putting the white speck for the eye tho as the flesh color certainly makes it look odd, especially in the direct forward frame.
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Post by: CidIII on December 19, 2008, 09:12:34 pm
Post by: CidIII on December 19, 2008, 09:12:34 pm
Anyone know how to make a walking .gif?
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Post by: Jacob31593 on December 19, 2008, 09:36:08 pm
Post by: Jacob31593 on December 19, 2008, 09:36:08 pm
Quote from: "CidIII"Anyone know how to make a walking .gif?
you can use multiple pictures to make a slideshow on camtasia studio, set the timespan of each pic to like one second and save it as a gif and voila
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Post by: CidIII on December 19, 2008, 11:56:48 pm
Post by: CidIII on December 19, 2008, 11:56:48 pm
Here's a rough capture of his motion; yes, we know it's a shitty pixelated video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLEb2hQGFgI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLEb2hQGFgI)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLEb2hQGFgI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLEb2hQGFgI)
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Post by: Ant on December 20, 2008, 12:03:55 am
Post by: Ant on December 20, 2008, 12:03:55 am
He certainly seems to have Kefka-like pep in his step.
He's actually one of my favorite FF characters, this should be cool.
He's actually one of my favorite FF characters, this should be cool.
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Post by: CidIII on December 20, 2008, 12:34:58 am
Post by: CidIII on December 20, 2008, 12:34:58 am
I feel like there should be a dip in head movement; however, that could just be mis-placement in my screenshots.
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Post by: Zozma on December 20, 2008, 08:56:43 am
Post by: Zozma on December 20, 2008, 08:56:43 am
the dip comes naturally. test what you have out in battle and youll see.
it really does look like kefka, nice job
it really does look like kefka, nice job
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Post by: CidIII on December 20, 2008, 05:20:28 pm
Post by: CidIII on December 20, 2008, 05:20:28 pm
Thanks, I'm working on the Backside walking frames now
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Post by: DarthPaul on December 20, 2008, 05:29:40 pm
Post by: DarthPaul on December 20, 2008, 05:29:40 pm
Quote from: "Zozma"that was his way of showing you who he REALLY was, because thru everything leading up to that... your basically playing as a hollow version of Zack if you really think about it.
so kefka looked more like this!
On first look that scarred the crap outta me then I realized it was an Olsen......
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Post by: CidIII on December 20, 2008, 09:21:48 pm
Post by: CidIII on December 20, 2008, 09:21:48 pm
Got the backside walking frames done.
Oh, and, you need some coco butter for those scars? BAM, grammar diss check and MATE!
Oh, and, you need some coco butter for those scars? BAM, grammar diss check and MATE!
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Post by: CidIII on December 20, 2008, 11:28:46 pm
Post by: CidIII on December 20, 2008, 11:28:46 pm
Posted a backside motion clip on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQrlrfE3gRg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQrlrfE3gRg)
You'll be sick of the Kefka laugh before I'm finished I guarantee it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQrlrfE3gRg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQrlrfE3gRg)
You'll be sick of the Kefka laugh before I'm finished I guarantee it.
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Post by: Kyousukeee on December 21, 2008, 10:10:46 am
Post by: Kyousukeee on December 21, 2008, 10:10:46 am
The video looks pretty good xD I ROFLed with the laugh in the end.
Btw , shouldn't the head move along with the body ? ^^
Oh yeah , while in motion you could make the feather stuff on his head jiggle a little too.
Btw , shouldn't the head move along with the body ? ^^
Oh yeah , while in motion you could make the feather stuff on his head jiggle a little too.
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Post by: CidIII on December 21, 2008, 01:48:23 pm
Post by: CidIII on December 21, 2008, 01:48:23 pm
There is downward motion of the head; not in my video, but if you put it in-game there is.
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Post by: Zozma on December 28, 2008, 06:27:02 am
Post by: Zozma on December 28, 2008, 06:27:02 am
lol look what i had done to kefka a long time ago.
im sure u remember edward from ff4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNZUbnvablQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNZUbnvablQ)
im sure u remember edward from ff4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNZUbnvablQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNZUbnvablQ)
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Post by: CidIII on December 28, 2008, 12:31:05 pm
Post by: CidIII on December 28, 2008, 12:31:05 pm
lol, Edward is so emo.
lol @ Vanish/Doom exploit
lol @ Vanish/Doom exploit
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Post by: LastingDawn on December 28, 2008, 01:47:50 pm
Post by: LastingDawn on December 28, 2008, 01:47:50 pm
Haha! That was excellently done! I take ti that FF6's AI has a bit more leeway then FFT's?
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Post by: Zozma on December 28, 2008, 04:54:33 pm
Post by: Zozma on December 28, 2008, 04:54:33 pm
well each enemy has attack script. i just changed it.
you know that vanish/ doom bug? well if you attack him normally he casts vanish and doom on the same person in one turn. if shadow uses the "throw" command edward will counter with a throw command. if sabin uses a blitz, edward counters with a blitz. thats why it probably looks like im not REALLY trying to kill him. but in reality i was just struggling to stay alive which ultimately failed.
you know that vanish/ doom bug? well if you attack him normally he casts vanish and doom on the same person in one turn. if shadow uses the "throw" command edward will counter with a throw command. if sabin uses a blitz, edward counters with a blitz. thats why it probably looks like im not REALLY trying to kill him. but in reality i was just struggling to stay alive which ultimately failed.
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Post by: CidIII on December 28, 2008, 05:18:43 pm
Post by: CidIII on December 28, 2008, 05:18:43 pm
Either way it was funny
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Post by: Zozma on January 08, 2009, 04:07:09 pm
Post by: Zozma on January 08, 2009, 04:07:09 pm
what did u think of this i had made a long time ago
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Post by: Vanya on January 08, 2009, 06:07:30 pm
Post by: Vanya on January 08, 2009, 06:07:30 pm
It's ok, but she looks like she about to kneel down.
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Post by: Zozma on January 08, 2009, 06:09:20 pm
Post by: Zozma on January 08, 2009, 06:09:20 pm
*shrugs*
i only threw it up here but i doubt ill ever work on it again lol...
i only threw it up here but i doubt ill ever work on it again lol...
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Post by: Vanya on January 08, 2009, 06:37:29 pm
Post by: Vanya on January 08, 2009, 06:37:29 pm
It's a good base. If you don't want her I'll take her off your hands.
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Post by: CidIII on January 08, 2009, 06:44:33 pm
Post by: CidIII on January 08, 2009, 06:44:33 pm
Yeah, that's a really good Terra.
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Post by: Zozma on January 08, 2009, 08:54:28 pm
Post by: Zozma on January 08, 2009, 08:54:28 pm
k, *hands you the one frame of terra* well thats pretty much it, but id suggest using balmafula or jenna as the base 
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Post by: Zenko on January 08, 2009, 08:59:44 pm
Post by: Zenko on January 08, 2009, 08:59:44 pm
esper form plz? 
- skin too dark
- hair is awesome like in all your sprites
- transition from leg skin to the red boots feels weird, may be partially due to luminosity too.
- skin too dark
- hair is awesome like in all your sprites
- transition from leg skin to the red boots feels weird, may be partially due to luminosity too.
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Post by: Zozma on January 08, 2009, 09:02:44 pm
Post by: Zozma on January 08, 2009, 09:02:44 pm
sure *points at cid* hes got this!
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Post by: CidIII on January 09, 2009, 12:31:08 am
Post by: CidIII on January 09, 2009, 12:31:08 am
lol, yeahhhh...
Actually I think the brown starting just below the knee is meant to be part of the boots, maybe?
Actually I think the brown starting just below the knee is meant to be part of the boots, maybe?
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Post by: Zozma on January 09, 2009, 12:38:36 am
Post by: Zozma on January 09, 2009, 12:38:36 am
yeah it is. those are pretty much default balmafula boots
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Post by: Kuraudo Sutoraifu on January 19, 2009, 01:59:56 pm
Post by: Kuraudo Sutoraifu on January 19, 2009, 01:59:56 pm
Quote from: "Zodiac"esper form plz?
- skin too dark
- hair is awesome like in all your sprites
- transition from leg skin to the red boots feels weird, may be partially due to luminosity too.
http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=723 (http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=723)
That thread has the very beginnings of my Esper Terra.