These events occur after Ramza's 'Death'. With Delita stabbed and killed by Ovelia, there was no one to take the throne. Soon, a conflict ensued that threatened to tear Ivalice apart, until 7 knights appeared, calling themselves "The Knights of Order". The Knights stopped the conflict and proceeded to rule Ivalice themselves in "The Council of Order". Peace reigned for a little while in the kingdom of Ivalice. However, when an attempt was made on the life of Ponil Dunra, The Knight of Fate, fingers were immediately pointed around the council, and even at the common people of Ivalice. Soon after, Ponil was stricken with an illness that killed him, and his 18 year old son, Zalge Dunra, was forced to take on the role of the 7th member of the council, as the Knight of Destiny. The attempt on Ponil's life still sparked debate and aggression in the council until War spread over Ivalice between the knights. 6 factions being formed, The Blaze Corps, The Order of the Clouded Sky, The Earthen Domain, The Sea Armada, The Light of Intervention, and The Shadow Brigade. Zalge, the Knight of Destiny, refused to take part in the war. He is suspicious of, and appears to question the legitimacy of his father death to illness, and wants an end to the war. His quest brings him against not only his fellow Knights of Order, but the Previously Disbanded Shrine Knights, A Criminal Conspiracy, and Hordes of monsters.
Soldier (Replaces Squire) Fencer (Replaces Knight) Ranger (Replaces Archer) Rogue (Replaces Thief) Berserker (Replaces Monk) Pikeman (Replaces Lancer) TBA (Replaces Geomancer) TBA (Replaces Ninja) Element Knight (Replaces Samurai) Medic (Replaces Chemist) Warlock (Replaces Wizard) Cleric (Replaces Priest) TBA (Replaces Oracle) TBA (Replaces Time Mage) Spirit Caller (Replaces Summoner) Blue Mage (Replaces Calculator) TBA (Replaces Mediator) Muse (Replaces Bard) Assassin (Replaces Dancer) Red Mage (Replaces Mime) Templar (Zozma's Job) Fell Paladin (Voldemort's Job) Destiny Caller (Zalge's Job) Psychic Warrior (Zodiac's Job) Heretic (Old Man's Job) Rebel (Teitra Fiury's Job) Turk (Subject to Change) (Reno and the rest of the Turks' Job) Engineer (Corban Black's Job) Shinra Infantry (...Shinra Infantries' Job) Cyborg (Golagros's job) Criminal (Blansch's Job) Arch Sorcerer (Bolmna's Job) Holy Spellblade (Karsten's Job) Vampiric Knight (Vincent Craven's Job) Knight Lord (Algus's Job) Spy (Snake's Job) Ex-SOLDIER (Cloud Strife's Job... edited. His moves won't be so tough to use) Terrorist (Barret Wallace's Job; Joins during Cloud's Sidequestline) SOLDIER 1st Class (Zack Fair's Job; Joins during Cloud's Sidequestline) Flower Girl (Aerith Gainsborough's Job; Joins after Cloud's Sidequestline) Flame Seer (Jenna's Job; becomes Flame Master after her Sidequestline)
Currently, like the original game, I'm splitting my patch's story into 4 chapters. I'll give you the names of the chapters so you can wonder what they are about =D.
Chapter 1 - The Fires of War Chapter 2 - The Witch's Pyre Chapter 3 - The Tears of Healing Chapter 4 - The Phoenix
Some quotes that I think everyone will love =D
"I didn't do it for you, I did it for me."
"She was standing in the way, can you not see that?" "-She- was the only one in the council who supported me! We were friends!"
NOTE: As you should have read above, I've eliminated Calculators and added Blue Mages, who, of course, like in other Final Fantasies learn their moves from monsters. But also note that Monster Abilities aren't the only things that can be learned Blue Mage Style. There are other moves that can be learned by certain classes. Also note that the Mime has also been eliminated, and replaced with the Red Mage. Fear not though, the Red Mage will be a quite powerful class, containing not only Medium level magics, but a few magic attacks unique to the Red Mages.
Update Well guys, I'm back. I might finish this project eventually. Though because I'm making a whole new storyline and I've lost a majority of my script that I wrote when my old computer crapped its pants and stopped working. I'm sure I can recreate a majority of the script and I think I still have some of it written down on paper somewhere. However right now I'm mostly focused on a game I'm making with RPGmakerVX but I'll be coming back to this eventually so don't worry guys. The Knights of Order will not remain in the grave for a super long time... maybe another year. As much as I'd like to work on this more, my other project needs much more attention then I've been giving it. I mean, my intro into the game looks horrible so I'm rewriting the script which obviously will take some time. And then I can finally get into the bulk of the game which will probably take a year or more to complete. Then there is beta testing it and adjusting all the items and enemies to make the game's progression of enemy difficulty be fairly simple, not really too hard and not too easy on normal battle difficulty (as I do have a script for battle difficulty). So, unfortunately, it will be a long time before I really touch this project again. I'll probably start hanging around the forum more though.
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Post by: Xifanie on November 27, 2008, 10:17:00 pm
You can't just call people for help immediately.
Yes it is hard to do alone, but if you can't do almost all the work yourself in the first months, this project is better off dead.
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Post by: Zalge on November 27, 2008, 10:28:02 pm
I guess, but I don't know anything about scripting. I know one guy at my school that knows a little about it, but he probably wouldn't help me. I'm more of an artsy/creative guy, not technology xP
I'll try, but I'm probably gunna do mainly writing and sprite making for the first month.
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Post by: Asmo X on November 27, 2008, 11:38:55 pm
Sorry to break this to you, but "artsy/creative" doesn't get anything done. Really, what you're asking for here is for someone to do the vast majority of the work. It's better you find out this project is a complete pipedream nice and early.
Also, welcome to the forums.
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Post by: Zalge on November 27, 2008, 11:46:16 pm
@Asmo X; haha, I guess I better go learn up on scripting then, huh? I'm a bright guy, I'm sure I can figure this out =D
I'll make my pipedream a reality even if it means staying up all night some nights, studying scripting =D
But, for now I'm gunna get the sprites done and write out the dialogue for scenes. If I set my mind to this, I can do it. Sure, I'm only a teenager, but... anything is possible, right?
Also, thanks for the welcome.
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Post by: Archael on November 28, 2008, 02:36:38 am
Quote from: "Zalge"@Asmo X; haha, I guess I better go learn up on scripting then, huh? I'm a bright guy, I'm sure I can figure this out =D
I'll make my pipedream a reality even if it means staying up all night some nights, studying scripting =D
But, for now I'm gunna get the sprites done and write out the dialogue for scenes. If I set my mind to this, I can do it. Sure, I'm only a teenager, but... anything is possible, right?
Also, thanks for the welcome.
^ the right attitude
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Post by: Zalge on December 30, 2008, 01:22:22 pm
Um... Update. Up on the top post... like, in 5 minutes from when I'm posting this message.
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Post by: Goomba on December 30, 2008, 03:19:02 pm
What? How could Delita be 1 shotted by someone in the Princess job? Ovelia's PA growth is far too low for that!
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Post by: Zalge on December 30, 2008, 04:39:52 pm
Uh, in the last scene of FFT Delita is stabbed and he takes the dagger and stabs her right back. Hes in the ruins of a church, who is gunna find someone(granted its their king) bleeding to death in a church in the middle of nowhere? He bled to death, thats how he dies.
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Post by: DarthPaul on December 30, 2008, 05:22:26 pm
Zalge does tell the truth all reports have Delita bleeding to death.
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Post by: Goomba on December 30, 2008, 06:08:55 pm
No way! He could just do like he did before and and wait for the woman closest to him to crystallize, absorb her soul, and then go about his business.
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Post by: Zalge on December 30, 2008, 06:14:28 pm
Absorbing a crystal does not stop bleeding. Absorbing the crystals were a way that restored their fatigue, it didn't mend their bodies. Their bodies were mended after the fight. Delita did not have any bandages on him. See, that also explains why Dycedarg was injured in bed after the attempted assassination. There were dead people all around, but he had to wait for his wounds to heal.
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Post by: DarthPaul on December 30, 2008, 07:13:08 pm
Lol what I meant was official announced by Square Delita died after killing Ovelia. That was not an assumption it is based in fact.
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Post by: Zozma on December 30, 2008, 07:23:34 pm
good, he dead! see I tol you!
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Post by: The Damned on December 30, 2008, 07:43:32 pm
Quote from: "darthpaul"Lol what I meant was official announced by Square Delita died after killing Ovelia. That was not an assumption it is based in fact.
Do you have any link to this official source?
I'm curious for confirmation on anything with regards to FFT's ending.
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Post by: DarthPaul on December 30, 2008, 11:17:14 pm
I am sorry I do not have the link but shall find it. I saw it a while ago with some other cleanup pieces of information.
EDIT: This isn't the article I was talking about but it is good enough to make a point.
P.s. I hate Delita with a passion because of the way he used every one when he himself didn't want to be used. That type of hypocrisy boils my blood and If I had been Ramza he would have died.....a lot earlier.
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Post by: LastingDawn on December 31, 2008, 01:05:42 am
Eh? the game completely Contradicts he died. The game's opening even says he went on to lead a Golden Age of prosperity, unless they set up a fake Delita, I don't think they could have done that. A fake Delita also wouldn't have been hero to the people, as Delita was portrayed/
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Post by: Zalge on December 31, 2008, 01:08:16 am
Hm... did it say WHEN Ovelia stabbed him? While it seems unlikely, it could be possible that the stabbing occurred years after Ramza's "death". Its not very logical... but it might explain things?
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Post by: DarthPaul on December 31, 2008, 01:10:53 am
We don't know that he didn't lead the golden age of prosperity before his confrontation of Ovelia though. No disrespect intended of course LD but without a sturdy time line that they don't give us alot is up for assumption and I'm almost positive that I saw a paper on the subject published by Square. Though to give benefit to the doubt until I find it I won't be too insistent on the subject.
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Post by: Zalge on December 31, 2008, 01:13:34 am
It could be that he only just lead them in the right direction? Did it say specifically that he lead them directly into the golden age? Hell, theories.
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Post by: DarthPaul on December 31, 2008, 01:18:38 am
LD had a point about the "Leading of the Golden Age" I just think he confronted Ovelia after everything got better. It also never stated how long those Golden Days lasted.
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Post by: Zalge on December 31, 2008, 02:36:22 pm
BLARG! UPDATE ON THE TOP POST! xD Small one; Added a "Features" section, "Future Work" Section, and "DONE" Section
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Post by: Zalge on December 31, 2008, 05:46:18 pm
Another Update; Added to Future work Section, where you can view the names of all the new Generic classes. I have yet to release their abilities though, I have added some information about Blue and Red Mages at the bottom of the post.
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Post by: psp master on December 31, 2008, 07:29:56 pm
So when will we be able to try this awesome patch?
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Post by: Zalge on December 31, 2008, 07:38:24 pm
It'll be a while. I hope to have my first Demo of the first two battles done soon. Sadly, I think I'm going to refrain from adding new monsters. But, nonetheless, It will be a while. Right now I'm making sprites, writing out the story, and filling in other information.
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Post by: DarthPaul on December 31, 2008, 08:33:29 pm
New monsters can come later you don't have to give up on them just wait and add them later.
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Post by: Zalge on January 03, 2009, 03:21:41 pm
Update: Added Jobs section, listing the new jobs and who they belong to or replace. Also, I'm going to start outlining all the jobs and upload them somewhere for viewing. Or maybe put them in one big text document and attach it.
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Post by: Vanya on January 03, 2009, 04:48:07 pm
Is the Rouge class supposed to be Rogue? ^_^
Edit: Also, Mime can't be changed to anything right now. It needs ASM hacking to be usable as anything other than a Mime. ^_^
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Post by: Zalge on January 03, 2009, 05:08:31 pm
Fo Realz? Well, I'll change Rouge to Rogue. And I guess I'll have to wait til someone cracks the mime code (or whatever) to put Red Mage in my patch.
I'm working on the text file that outlines the classes. I haven't got very far, but I think my ideas are good =D
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Post by: Tokwa on January 03, 2009, 05:12:48 pm
lol good luck with that =D took me awhile to do the text files on mine oh and btw world.bin u need to keep the same size of byte on skill set or else it would be really buggy and I think theres other stuff there too in world.bin that needs to be careful changing at
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Post by: Zalge on January 03, 2009, 08:57:39 pm
OMG UPDATE! attached my outline of all the jobs on the first post. If you have any suggestions, I'd be glad to hear them.
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Post by: Zalge on January 11, 2009, 10:34:41 pm
Update FTW
I been working a bit, and I have some quotes that are going to be in the patch on my first post.
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Post by: Kokojo on January 15, 2009, 01:15:06 am
I am kokojo, and i agree of this thread.
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Post by: Zalge on January 18, 2009, 11:14:46 pm
Mild update: Read front post, cause I don't feel like typing it again. read the update section. I'll be posting an updated Job list soon... maybe next weekend.
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Post by: Zalge on January 25, 2009, 04:28:49 pm
Update: 2 New people on the team =O MagiTek and ShadowX
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Post by: ShadowX on January 25, 2009, 08:21:54 pm
WOOT! recognition for the work I've yet to do!
Actually I think I'm getting somewhere but I'm trying not to add many new people to the story.
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Post by: Zalge on January 25, 2009, 08:33:35 pm
Quote from: "ShadowX"WOOT! recognition for the work I've yet to do!
Actually I think I'm getting somewhere but I'm trying not to add many new people to the story.
whoa, before you add people, tell me what the hell you're thinking.
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Post by: ShadowX on January 25, 2009, 09:18:45 pm
I know I have to finish thinking first. I have something for you soon enough though.
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Post by: Zalge on January 26, 2009, 09:27:08 am
Quote from: "ShadowX"I know I have to finish thinking first. I have something for you soon enough though.
don't count on all your ideas being included. I have an idea of the flow of events, but I'm open to your ideas and I'll try to fit them in
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Post by: ShadowX on January 27, 2009, 10:45:58 pm
Well from what you gave me the flow of events isn't to solid. And I didn't say "EVERYTHING I SAY GOES IN NAO!!!" I'm just trying to think through my ideas before I hand you a pile of "shit" (Lack of the use of a better word.)
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Post by: Zalge on February 08, 2009, 10:47:11 am
Update =D I really just mainly reorganized the information...
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Post by: ShadowX on February 08, 2009, 02:30:38 pm
Question: Are there any characters you want to be hidden (or at least their face)? I'm trying to find use for my organization 13 sprite to see how it looks before I decide to put it in my own patch.
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Post by: Zalge on February 08, 2009, 03:50:29 pm
Quote from: "ShadowX"Question: Are there any characters you want to be hidden (or at least their face)? I'm trying to find use for my organization 13 sprite to see how it looks before I decide to put it in my own patch.
Well, Algus was going to be hidden for a while under a hood, but he was be wearing his normal orange. I could probably work it in as... Reno's outfit when you first meet him. If you wan to know how Reno ties into the story, send me a message.
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Post by: Llednar on February 08, 2009, 03:57:57 pm
You should make the shinra soldier class, using machine guns!
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Post by: Zalge on February 08, 2009, 04:07:25 pm
I actually planned on having them make a bunch of cameos, one in the tutorial battle, and more later when you battle the Turks alongsde Reno, who is a Turk... It's hard to explain.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on March 26, 2009, 11:59:35 pm
I hope this project is still going cause i'm quite interested to play this ^^
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Post by: SilvasRuin on March 27, 2009, 12:02:09 am
I suppose since someone already bumped this thread up recently... What about Rude? You can't have Reno without Rude!
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on March 27, 2009, 12:07:15 am
Sorry for asking this but who is Rude and who is Reno? Lol =p
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Post by: SilvasRuin on March 27, 2009, 12:24:59 am
Quote from: "Zalge"I actually planned on having them make a bunch of cameos, one in the tutorial battle, and more later when you battle the Turks alongsde Reno, who is a Turk... It's hard to explain.
As this quote says, they're Turks from FFVII. They make an amusing comedy team and were quite funny in Advent Children. They were the bald guy and the redheaded guy.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on March 27, 2009, 03:40:17 am
Oh...them..lol ^^ Didn't know their names but sure remember their faces. Lol =p Nice nice. It's good to have them.
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Post by: Zalge on March 29, 2009, 09:03:57 pm
Quote from: "SilvasRuin"I suppose since someone already bumped this thread up recently... What about Rude? You can't have Reno without Rude!
I'll have Rude in there. Tseng, Elena, and Cissnei will be in there too... how they tie in though... that is a secret.
Also, this project is currently suspended. I'll still be working on the story, but all other work is... well, not being worked on. Unless someone wants to work on it, then it is currently halted.
I'll probably start work up again on things other than Story (and maybe a little bit of spriting) once summer starts. I've been swamped with homework lately, I've been sick the past few days, and I just got two new games.
Sorry guys... Making a good story is unbelievably tough. I haven't really been working on it much too, and you just made me realize that I only really had Rude in the story for one scene and one battle (against him of all things =O). I need to get back to work, but right now I need to deal with school. I half-wish I hadn't gone on a ski trip over spring break. Not only did I hate the trip, but I wasted so much time I could have used on my project and other things.
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Post by: Zalge on April 17, 2009, 08:13:54 pm
Um... Project no longer suspended. I'm back to work. Story is coming along fine, now that I'm writing again. I'm writing the script for some of the scenes, and I think you all are going to love it cause I'm going to be putting in a lot of animations, like Zozma pushing Zalge (Me) off a bridge and stabbing another guy in the back, an Old man getting thrown around by me, etc. etc.
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Post by: Kokojo on April 17, 2009, 08:32:28 pm
Hahaha, i demand to see that at once.
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Post by: Zalge on April 17, 2009, 08:36:21 pm
Quote from: "Kokojo"Hahaha, i demand to see that at once.
Well, without my own computer, I can't edit sprites. And I'm not throwing around the old man for no reason, he was being a massive prick and wasn't caring at all about my feelings =P (xD)
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Post by: Zalge on April 18, 2009, 09:55:34 pm
Update: Read the first page.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on April 19, 2009, 11:54:26 am
Great to see that this project back to work ^^
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Post by: Zalge on April 19, 2009, 02:08:29 pm
Quote from: "jimmyjw88"Great to see that this project back to work ^^
Haha, I guess. Right now I'm just working on writing scenes and working out the story.
Although, tommorrow I'll probably start work on some more sprites.
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Post by: MagiTek on April 19, 2009, 05:34:43 pm
YAY! This project sounds rockin'.
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Post by: Zalge on July 30, 2009, 10:42:52 am
UPDATE: Well guys, I'm back. I might finish this project eventually. Though because I'm making a whole new storyline and I've lost a majority of my script that I wrote when my old computer crapped its pants and stopped working. I'm sure I can recreate a majority of the script and I think I still have some of it written down on paper somewhere. However right now I'm mostly focused on a game I'm making with RPGmakerVX but I'll be coming back to this eventually so don't worry guys. The Knights of Order will not remain in the grave for a super long time... maybe another year. As much as I'd like to work on this more, my other project needs much more attention then I've been giving it. I mean, my intro into the game looks horrible so I'm rewriting the script which obviously will take some time. And then I can finally get into the bulk of the game which will probably take a year or more to complete. Then there is beta testing it and adjusting all the items and enemies to make the game's progression of enemy difficulty be fairly simple, not really too hard and not too easy on normal battle difficulty (as I do have a script for battle difficulty). So, unfortunately, it will be a long time before I really touch this project again. I'll probably start hanging around the forum more though.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on September 15, 2009, 09:44:08 pm
Zalge, is this project still ongoing?
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Post by: Zalge on September 16, 2009, 09:49:44 pm
Quote from: "jimmyjw88"Zalge, is this project still ongoing?
Well, a little. the sprites I'm working on will probably be featured in my project. Right now, that's all I'm doing. I might start working on the story again, but right now I'm swamped with school stuff, so current;y the patch is kinda at a HUGE slow down if not a complete stand still.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on September 17, 2009, 12:15:57 am
Alright. Just wondering though ^^ No rush.
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Post by: ffta707 on October 04, 2009, 07:05:03 pm
Quote from: "darthpaul"I am sorry I do not have the link but shall find it. I saw it a while ago with some other cleanup pieces of information.
EDIT: This isn't the article I was talking about but it is good enough to make a point.
P.s. I hate Delita with a passion because of the way he used every one when he himself didn't want to be used. That type of hypocrisy boils my blood and If I had been Ramza he would have died.....a lot earlier.
Ya, Ramza should have put him away, Delita was only trouble.