Final Fantasy Hacktics

Modding => Spriting => Topic started by: on December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm

Poll
Question: What do you think of it?
Option 1: Cool! votes: 4
Option 2: Its ok... votes: 3
Option 3: Pretty good for a first try. votes: 9
Option 4: Could use some improvement. votes: 1
Option 5: Horrible. votes: 0
Option 6: You suck; it's horrible; you're useless; go die now. votes: 1
Title: Working on Custom Sprites for a project
Post by: Zalge on November 27, 2008, 09:13:50 pm
I could use some help on this, and... well, I just started doin' this today, and I was hoping someone could rate my work.

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/Goten3620/DNKNIGHTDISPLAY.jpg)

Don't be harsh pwease xP I'm only 14, and I just started today.
I'm a newb xD
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Post by: AuraDragon on November 27, 2008, 09:30:09 pm
Looks pretty good, needs more colors though, and save it using a different format cause it looks grainy... :shock:
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Post by: Archael on November 27, 2008, 09:36:26 pm
very good for a first try

more colors so it stands out in FFT maps
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Post by: Zalge on November 27, 2008, 09:53:32 pm
Thanks for the criticism, guys. I'll be working on it, and I'll be sure to try and add more color.

(In reality, its just a Ramza CH4 Edit. I recolored an Archer Armguard, Beowulf's Cape, and added the 20 yo man's face XD... also I recolored and moved some stuff around.)
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Post by: AuraDragon on November 27, 2008, 10:13:46 pm
It is Ramza Ch4!?  Looks more like Beowulf... ;)
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Post by: Zalge on November 27, 2008, 10:35:21 pm
Where is your sprite sheet? I might use it, but... I dunno. I kinda wanted to do it on my own.

Also, I'm kinda stuck already. I can't really figure how to add more color. My only idea is adding an orange design to the armguard, but... that is it. Haha, I feel like even more of a noob, cause I need help with this; do you guys have any idea how I can add color other then adding a stupid design to the armguard? =P
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Post by: Zalge on November 27, 2008, 10:52:28 pm
Ok, I've been working on it, and I have a more updated version.

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/Goten3620/DNKNIGHTDISPLAY-1.png)

I'm debating whether or not to spread the orange designs over the entire knight, changing the design color, or maybe trying something completely different.
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Post by: Archael on November 27, 2008, 10:59:08 pm
looks alot better with the extra color

but I feel the designs could be better and perhaps a different color altogether
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Post by: Xifanie on November 27, 2008, 11:09:59 pm
Was there a particular design for the golden stripes? They look quite randomly places to look "nice".

If so, you should aim to make the edges of the armor golden instead

Looks great though.
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Post by: Zalge on November 27, 2008, 11:12:46 pm
@arch Well, what would you suggest? I'm tired and can't think right now xD Maybe change orange to dark green?
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Post by: AuraDragon on November 27, 2008, 11:18:50 pm
I mean HK, since that guy is helmetless, but the DK has a helmet. >_< My bad.
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Post by: Zalge on November 27, 2008, 11:23:28 pm
@ Aura; I don't know how to open that file on the custom sprite page. Do I just need to open it in MS Paint?(its the art editing program I use XD)
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Post by: Zalge on November 27, 2008, 11:40:11 pm
Here is the Destiny Knight, Gold Trimmed Armor

I personally like it, but I'm not sure its right for what the sprite is gunna be. (hes for a project I'm working on, and hes gunna be the main protagonist)

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/Goten3620/DKNIGHTDISPLAY.png)
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Post by: AuraDragon on November 27, 2008, 11:45:37 pm
You use Shishi Sprite Editor which comes with FFT Patcher which is on the downloads page.
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Post by: Zalge on November 27, 2008, 11:48:25 pm
I have it downloaded, but I'm not sure how to open the sprite sheet still xP
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Post by: Archael on November 28, 2008, 02:37:50 am
looks good


much better now
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Post by: KazeKasano on November 28, 2008, 02:29:35 pm
Open the .SPR in ShiShi, and export it as a bmp.
It's under file.
Also, this looks great!
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Post by: Zalge on November 28, 2008, 02:39:12 pm
@Kaze; well, I got a different version that let me open it right, so... now when I try to export it, it cuts off the bottom of the sprite sheet. Do I need to change the sprite type before I export it or something?(ARUTE.SHP, TYPE1.SHP, etc.)

EDIT: Nevermind, I didn't see that it was just improperly aligned. I get it, it has it all, just not properly aligned... How do I export it properly aligned?
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Post by: DarthPaul on November 28, 2008, 02:40:54 pm
.....very large portrait.
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Post by: Zalge on November 29, 2008, 05:17:22 pm
New Sprite; Ramza- Aged 20-30 years(so now hes 40-50 years old)

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/Goten3620/OLDRAMZADISPLAY.png)
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Post by: DarthPaul on November 29, 2008, 05:21:44 pm
I like this one very much o.O you might just be my spriting hero.
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Post by: Zalge on November 29, 2008, 05:27:04 pm
haha, well... I changed it a little bit. I chane change it back if you like the old one better. But, I'm trying to depict Ramza, aged 20-30 years, remember that.

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/Goten3620/OLDRAMZADISPLAY-1.png)
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Post by: Archael on November 29, 2008, 05:30:09 pm
much improved.

you're getting better already
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Post by: Zalge on November 29, 2008, 07:28:32 pm
Algus, The Shrine Knight. You guessed it, Algus will be back in my Patch.

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/Goten3620/ALGUSSHRINESIDPLAY-1.png)
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Post by: Vanya on November 29, 2008, 08:46:57 pm
That' pretty cool! That would have made a waaay better Fell Knight Algus!
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Post by: DarthPaul on November 30, 2008, 03:46:59 am
And it still proves all 183 of my Algus is a douche theories.
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Post by: Zalge on November 30, 2008, 08:44:53 am
I can tell a lot of people are gunna 'love' Algus being back. Mainly because you get to kill him 'again' XD
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Post by: DarthPaul on November 30, 2008, 10:49:31 am
YES!! we all love killing that SoB.
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Post by: Zalge on November 30, 2008, 05:11:22 pm
haha, my Avatar is now that SoB.

This is the portrait I'm using for him.
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Post by: DarthPaul on November 30, 2008, 05:13:58 pm
Nice look for him but when you post this patch my main goal is to own him to hell and back again then for the hell of launch into kick him through a quidditch goal.  At which point my ass will grow wings and fly me into space.
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Post by: Zozma on November 30, 2008, 05:24:57 pm
this is what algus looks like in my patch lol

the ass, becomes the innocent bystander
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Post by: Zalge on November 30, 2008, 05:25:51 pm
At least he still dies.
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Post by: AuraDragon on November 30, 2008, 05:27:46 pm
His depressing "Poor Me" look makes me want to kill him even more.  :twisted:
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Post by: Zalge on November 30, 2008, 05:29:29 pm
try making him smile xD then he'd look really innocent.
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Post by: Zozma on November 30, 2008, 05:29:32 pm
haha, sweet, well don't worry he dies in Tietra's place under the same circumstances
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Post by: DarthPaul on November 30, 2008, 06:36:21 pm
Quote from: "Zozma"haha, sweet, well don't worry he dies in Tietra's place under the same circumstances

Zozma has just become my hero lol.
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Post by: CidIII on December 01, 2008, 02:02:24 am
Haha, Zozma have you seen this on the Japanese Site?

http://fft.nm.land.to/cgi-bin/src/up0112.png (http://fft.nm.land.to/cgi-bin/src/up0112.png)
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Post by: Zozma on December 01, 2008, 02:30:21 am
yeah they found my screenshot didnt they, they must have explored out site a few times.
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Post by: Zalge on December 01, 2008, 07:47:19 am
I finished my Algus sprite =D
I'll be submitting it today after I test it.
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Post by: Zalge on January 02, 2009, 09:32:45 pm
... You're a witch, you know that? =P
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Post by: Zozma on January 02, 2009, 09:35:08 pm
mwahahaa... maybe i am
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Post by: DarthPaul on January 02, 2009, 09:37:17 pm
What?!?
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Post by: Zalge on February 07, 2009, 11:06:09 pm
hoorayness! I got my first frame of my new sprite done... of me.

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/Goten3620/ZalgeDisplay-1.png)
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Post by: SentinalBlade on February 08, 2009, 07:07:44 am
hey, tahts excellent zalge :D
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Post by: Zalge on February 08, 2009, 09:06:54 am
Crap, I think I may need to do some color fixing, I just remembered I have to have one color for background...I'll try changing the trimming to Blue and the gloves and shoes to brown, then I'll only be using two blue shades...

I'm afraid he wont stand out well though, his armor/clothes/whatever is kinda dark, and so is his hair.
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Post by: Zozma on February 08, 2009, 11:22:44 am
looks nice z
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Post by: Zalge on February 08, 2009, 11:45:20 am
Thanks Zozma, I should have the walking animations done soon, then I'll do up the arms tommorrow
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Post by: SentinalBlade on February 08, 2009, 11:46:32 am
Arms are extremely teadious and hard to get working...i suggest zalbags arms for the sprite...but you may have already used a sprite with compatable arms, so ill keep meh mouth shut.
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Post by: Zalge on February 08, 2009, 11:48:44 am
Quote from: "SentinalBlade"Arms are extremely teadious and hard to get working...i suggest zalbags arms for the sprite...but you may have already used a sprite with compatable arms, so ill keep meh mouth shut.
Zalbag is my base sprite xD Sadly, most of this is just a recolor, despite whether it looks good or not. So, I'l just going to be recoloring his arms that are already on the sheet.
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Post by: SentinalBlade on February 08, 2009, 12:07:51 pm
haha, i guess i have a good eye then :)

i dont see zalbag much in sprite sheet form, so i never payed to much attention to him. if you ahdnt told me, i wouldnt have guessed this was mostly a recolor ;P you did a very convincing job on it
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Post by: Zalge on February 08, 2009, 12:15:35 pm
Quote from: "SentinalBlade"haha, i guess i have a good eye then :)

i dont see zalbag much in sprite sheet form, so i never payed to much attention to him. if you ahdnt told me, i wouldnt have guessed this was mostly a recolor ;P you did a very convincing job on it
Well, I changed the hair and added a little piece to the trimming running under his chest, instead of just looping on the sides, around his arms.
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Post by: SentinalBlade on February 08, 2009, 12:25:14 pm
cool. when i saw it, something abour the torso seemed unfamiliar when you mentioned that it was zalbag...then again i just wrote myself off as playing so much FFT you get confused.
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Post by: Zalge on February 08, 2009, 01:10:00 pm
I got a bit more done =D

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/Goten3620/ZalgeDunraDisplay.png)

Screw it, it won't stop being fuzzy in the very small versions. I'm not sure what I'm gunna do with that back facing one... the hair just doesn't look right.
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Post by: Cheetah on February 08, 2009, 01:15:35 pm
Use the hair from Zozma's hatless thief.
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Post by: Zalge on February 08, 2009, 01:17:29 pm
Quote from: "Cheetah"Use the hair from Zozma's hatless thief.
Why? I'm trying to make his hair medium lengthed, like mine. Not short and kinda poofy...
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Post by: Llednar on February 08, 2009, 01:24:13 pm
Go die somewhere...just joking!  Its pretty cool I think.
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Post by: Cheetah on February 08, 2009, 01:47:39 pm
Well I think using the hatless thief's hair as a reference would be useful. You are trying to do too much from scratch right now and the hair is missing a lot of detail. Just an idea.
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Post by: SentinalBlade on February 08, 2009, 02:03:41 pm
yea, it needs another color...soem more depth :P its fine right now, but it looks kinda like when you make a circular eliptical in MS pain and just paint one color into the circle...lol
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Post by: Zalge on February 15, 2009, 07:30:48 pm
Ha, I tried to make my own portrait, but failed quite epically. I could use some help if anyone would give some.
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Post by: Zozma on February 15, 2009, 07:45:52 pm
give the hair one more color, simply use one of the skin tones for a sheen.
then its all good

oh wait, im talking about the sprite hair, not the portrait
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Post by: Zalge on February 15, 2009, 07:49:31 pm
Quote from: "Zozma"give the hair one more color, simply use one of the skin tones for a sheen.
then its all good
I think I need to eliminate one more color =P I'm pretty sure it has 16 colors without the background one. How do you suggest I get rid of another color? I'll try something...
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Post by: Cheetah on February 15, 2009, 09:32:49 pm
Looks like you used some programs color reduction instead of doing it by hand. I would recommend going back and doing more color reduction on your own and then having the program figure out the rest for you. Plus I just noticed those two blue stripes on the armor and those look horrible.
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Post by: Zozma on February 15, 2009, 09:37:24 pm
he has more than 16 right now? hmm youll have to improvise then, perhaps one of the greys. as annoying as it is to only have white used for 2 pixels per frame id say dont sacrifice that one tho.
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Post by: Zalge on February 15, 2009, 10:57:54 pm
Quote from: "Cheetah"Looks like you used some programs color reduction instead of doing it by hand. I would recommend going back and doing more color reduction on your own and then having the program figure out the rest for you. Plus I just noticed those two blue stripes on the armor and those look horrible.
Yeah... I'll be removing the stripes. That will save color room... And, I actually did do the color reduction by hand =P
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Post by: Cheetah on February 15, 2009, 11:47:39 pm
Post a version with more colors and I will take a look at it.
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Post by: Zalge on February 17, 2009, 10:35:37 pm
Nevermind Cheetah, I removed the blue stripes. I was putting them on because the sprite has them, and I was thinking I should put them on the make the portrait look more like the Zalbag portrait, but it doesn't matter anymore cause it looked stupid.

Anyway, it freed up two colors, so I could correctly shade my portrait and make the eyes look much better.
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Post by: SentinalBlade on February 17, 2009, 10:45:03 pm
Not bad Zalge, but the pupils look kinda huge on it... zozmas/cheetahs are kindy more conservative with the size of their eyes... lol that sounds really weird...
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Post by: Cheetah on February 18, 2009, 12:21:46 am
Looks much better Zalge, good work. What Sentinal Blade says about the eyes is pretty true, but it might just be the original Ramza portrait.