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Title: How to Unlock the fight with Dycedarg's Elder Brother
Post by: DoomSwell on November 03, 2008, 01:13:29 am
I posted this on GameFAQs but then I rewrote it better, here's the improved version.

WARNING you may wish to try this on a burned disc, I'll explain why later. I am not responsible for ANY damage to your game, system, or anything else, such as existance...

Before you begin you need a few GameShark Codes;

World Map Debug
D0198090 0000
80198090 0006

Battle Debug
8016BC1C 0003

Invite Alma
30061488 0000

Revive Teta
30061612 0000

Invited Teta
30061613 0040

Start a new game and give Ramza a Libra birthday. Play normally till after you meet Algus. Train at Mandalia Plains until Ramza has Steal Helmet and Invite.

Activate the Debug and Invite Alma Codes and go to Igros. The cutscenes will turn into battles instead because of the Debug Codes. When fighting Zalbag and Alma check her Zodiac, reset if she isn't Gemini (it is set to be random). Have Ramza steal her Ribbon and Invite her (Libra and Gemini have Good Compat. so it should work), finish the battle and turn the codes off.

Train Alma so she has Raise 2. Before Zeakden activate both Teta Codes and go there, Alma should be able to successfully (good Zodiac Compat.) cast Raise 2 on Teta. After battle she will ask to join, let her.

Continue normally until you reach Igros in Chapter Four to fight Dycedarg. Bring Teta, Alma and your best characters. The first half of the battle is the same, but instead of Dycedarg transforming his Elder Brother(DEB) shows up. DEB is the hardest battle in the game, he's basically Orlandu but FAR WORSE. here's his set up...

Job: Elder Brother/MAX Stats (999HP/999MP/99PA/99MA/50SP/100Br/0Fa/ETC)
Command: Rape Sword (Holy Sword, Mighty Sword, Dark/Night Sword, Zalbag's Ruin Sword, Beowulf's Magic Sword, Cloud's Limits [with no Materia Blade Requirement] and Draw Out)
Inherit/Equiped Abilities/Statuses: Transparent, Haste, Regen, Reflect, Shell, Protect, Damage Split, Blade Grasp, Defense Up, Magic Defense Up, No Charge (Limits and Spells go off Instantly), Teleport 2 (Never Fails)
(Meaning he takes and deals 1/6 damage when you attack him)

Chaos Blade (Regen and Petrify)
Escutcheon II (High Evades)
Ribbon (Immune to all Negative Statuses)
Reflect Mail (Reflect)
Setiemson (Haste, Transparent)

Your ONLY hope of defeating DEB is lowering his brave and stealing/breaking his equipment. Starting with his shield and using Critical Quick with Defense Up will help. If you somehow manage to defeat him he will steal Dycedarg's Zodiac Stone and Transform. BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL, his new skillset is like Math Skill; no charge time or MP and selects targets by dividing. There are two major differences though, it can use ANY skill (Enemy magic like Grand Cross or Dark Holy, Summons; including Zodiac, Sword Skills, ETC) and an extra "Number" skill; Zero. There is approximately a 1/5 chance he will use it, if he does, IMMEDIATELY remove the disc and snap it in half before the animation loads.
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Post by: Dokurider on November 03, 2008, 12:12:01 pm
Great work, is there a way to fight Kanbabrif?
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Post by: DarthPaul on November 03, 2008, 12:31:38 pm
yes beat velius by kicking him and then rturn to zeltenia where you have to balance the flower you bought between your butcheeks while saying i do the tango 47 times then they repeatedly ask you if you are the lemon when you finally say yes the make you put on your sandpaper pant and straddle a chicken while they pelt you with potions and chanting the the holy mantra "you aint nothin but a hound dog"

that is when you shall fight kanbabrif
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Post by: Vanya on November 03, 2008, 01:02:19 pm
But more importantly how do you get to fight the nose-stealing monster that steals everyones' noses at birth or arrival at Ivalice circa FFT, magna cum laude, corpus juris secundum, et cetera, ad nauseum... the black dog runs at night... o.O
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Post by: DarthPaul on November 03, 2008, 03:22:31 pm
and vanya has spun himself in a circle and the monster stole his nose so next year his batman will look a little more like the cartoon versions
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Post by: Jacob31593 on November 03, 2008, 04:23:18 pm
lul i tried this and it worked  :shock:
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Post by: DarthPaul on November 03, 2008, 04:27:19 pm
????
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Post by: Jacob31593 on November 03, 2008, 04:28:16 pm
PROFIT!!!
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Post by: DarthPaul on November 03, 2008, 04:29:23 pm
DAMN MONEY DRAGON!!!!
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Post by: Green Archer on November 03, 2008, 04:54:10 pm
Quote from: "Jacob31593"lul i tried this and it worked  :D
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Post by: Vanya on November 04, 2008, 12:06:58 am
Don't forget the alien, Puu Puu!
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Post by: DarthPaul on November 04, 2008, 01:39:15 pm
alien *puts on halo helmet* bring it on *pulls out lancer* ......yea i know im crossing games but where else will you get an awesome helmet and a gun with a chainsaw for a bayonet
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Post by: Vanya on November 04, 2008, 03:27:54 pm
You know those chainsaw bayonets don't really work, right? Besides, PuuPuu has "LAY-ZERS".
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Post by: DarthPaul on November 04, 2008, 05:07:58 pm
oh really now i spent half the afternoon sawing 13 year olds in half at my friends house (thank god for XBL) so i think they do work

and i dont care how many lay-zers ya have im an american which means ill shove an A bomb up your ass.........(i am so sorry japan)
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Post by: Vanya on November 04, 2008, 05:22:52 pm
The Puu Puu's shields eat A Bombs and all varients for breakfast.
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Post by: DarthPaul on November 04, 2008, 05:32:51 pm
but is the shield in the lining of its anus
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Post by: Jacob31593 on November 04, 2008, 05:33:52 pm
dont know about you but i shove everything up my anus, including shields
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Post by: DarthPaul on November 04, 2008, 05:35:16 pm
uhhh <_< >_> have we introduced you to gojoe yet
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Post by: Jacob31593 on November 04, 2008, 05:36:36 pm
Quote from: "darthpaul"uhhh <_< >_> have we introduced you to gojoe yet
i believe i've already proclaimed my enjoyment of gazing at his buns of steel
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Post by: DarthPaul on November 04, 2008, 05:39:49 pm
oh ummm welll uhhhh its ummm i think our friendship might have been hurt by this uhhhh ummmm dont hurt me
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Post by: gojoe on November 04, 2008, 09:10:07 pm
Quote from: "darthpaul"uhhh <_< >_> have we introduced you to gojoe yet

WTF is that supposed to mesn?!?!?!
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Post by: Vanya on November 04, 2008, 09:25:46 pm
Ass plugs!! =)
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Post by: DarthPaul on November 04, 2008, 11:26:51 pm
yea what he said!!!!!
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Post by: Zozma on November 04, 2008, 11:50:06 pm
hmmm so back on this spam subject...

what WOULD be an appropriate name for DEB ?

we simply cant call him Dycedarg's Elder Brother in game... should anyone *eherm* want to actually make a sprite and class for him
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Post by: Jacob31593 on November 05, 2008, 06:05:53 am
Quote from: "Zozma"hmmm so back on this spam subject...

what WOULD be an appropriate name for DEB ?

we simply cant call him Dycedarg's Elder Brother in game... should anyone *eherm* want to actually make a sprite and class for him
lul, uh how about...lets see, dycedarg..ramza...wut was the other ones name again?
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Post by: Archael on November 05, 2008, 08:47:41 am
You know I made a topic about this 3 times on GF, only to have it moderated 3 times because of "Spoilers"

It's so obvious mods don't know anything about the game they mod... how can DEB  be a spoiler, he doesn't even exist in FFT lore..

Anyway, I'm disputing the 3rd topic the guy modded, which was titled


**SPOILER** Defeat DEB **SPOILER**


Here is the exchange between mod and me. I argued with him to the point where he sent it to a Lead Admin and I'm awaiting the result to see if he will agree with me or with the mod.



VoldemortN7

DEB = Dycedarg's Elder Brother

I still can't kill him.

Any tips guyz?


Deleted: 11/3/2008 7:18:44 PM
Action: Warned (Top)
Reason: Spoiler with no Warning







Voldemort said on
11/4/2008 6:37:34 AM


Why was this deleted?

The topic title is marked as SPOILER, and the title itself contains no spoilers, just an abbreviation of boss name.

New players have no idea what DEB (the abbreviation) is until they actually reach that boss.

Please restore this topic.

It is not a spoiler at all because it doesn't even contain the boss name.





A Mod/Admin replied on
11/4/2008 9:40:28 AM

Doesn't matter whether they have an idea of this or not. They already may know. The bottom line is if you put up a spoilers tag, don't put the spoiler along with it.






Voldemort said on
11/4/2008 9:56:18 AM

   Oh, it is not a spoiler. And it is impossible for a player of this game to know what DEB stands for.

Why?

Because:

DEB stands for "Dycedarg's Elder Brother", a mis-translation in the original game, because Dycedarg doesn't HAVE an Elder Brother, he IS the Elder Brother.

The actual boss you fight in the battle is Dycedarg, however the objective of the battle is "Defeat Dycedarg's Elder Brother!". Which is an error in the game.

Because of this, the title of the battle (Defeat Dycedarg's Elder Brother) is not a spoiler.

If I had posted "Need help in battle vs Dycedarg" as a topic, then that would be a spoiler, because Dycedarg is the person revealed to be a villian later in the story.

Dycedarg's Elder Brother (DEB) is a joke title used to refer to that battle amongst players of this game.

I fail to see how a reference to a battle vs a character that does not even exist in the game lore is a spoiler.










A Mod/Admin replied on
11/4/2008 10:18:49 AM

You could have worded that topic title so much better, instead of more or less putting the spoiler itself in there, forcing the user to view the post to even get what you're saying, thus spoiling them in the process. Perhaps saying "help with quest # blah *SPOILERS*" would suffice?








Voldemort said on
11/4/2008 12:25:02 PM

If they open the topic despite it clearly being labeled SPOILER that is the user's problem isn't it?

Do you delete other topics because the user OPENED it and spoiled it himself despite the topic being marked as SPOILER?

I doubt it.

This game does not identify it's quests or missions with numbers.

DEB is the title of the topic.

This game identifies it's "missions" with titles or objectives.

The title of that battle, "Defeat Dycedarg's Elder Brother", says nothing about the plot, as I explained in my previous message.

If it doesn't say anything about the plot, it cannot possibly spoil anything for the user, whether he / she knew what DEB stands for or not.


I *could have* worder the topic in a better way, sure, DEB is not an amazing topic title.



DEB is actually an incredibly vague title (it's an abbreviation of a translation error, for chrissake).

I seriously, seriously doubt any new player would suddenly come to the conclusion that FFT's plot makes you fight Dycedarg because they saw the letters DEB.

If they open the topic, it's their problem, not mine. I correctly labeled the topic title with not one, but TWO **SPOILER** labels.
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Post by: DarthPaul on November 05, 2008, 09:24:02 am
the admin sounds a bit like a jerk

what site was that again?

EDIT: just noticed the GF
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Post by: Archael on November 05, 2008, 10:23:37 am
sometimes admins know they are wrong and try to uphold their moderations even though they dont know anything about the game and know the topic didnt need moderation

they are bitches irl
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Post by: DarthPaul on November 05, 2008, 10:41:23 am
it happens
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Post by: Lydyn on November 05, 2008, 01:49:32 pm
"Reason: Spoiler with no Warning"

"The bottom line is if you put up a spoilers tag, don't put the spoiler along with it."

Is he drunk or something? :shock:
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Post by: DarthPaul on November 05, 2008, 01:58:15 pm
as long as it says spoilers who really gives a rats furry ass
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Post by: Dominic NY18 on November 05, 2008, 02:21:34 pm
GameFAQ mods never seem to actually know anything about the game/console board they look after. And this is just more evidence for it.

This:
Quote from: "GameFAQ Mod"You could have worded that topic title so much better, instead of more or less putting the spoiler itself in there, forcing the user to view the post to even get what you're saying, thus spoiling them in the process.

is one of biggest bunches of BS I've ever seen.

By going into a thread that's marked with a spoiler warning, one is making a conscious decision to see any possible spoilers. Of course, that's on top of the fact that no one who's new to the game would understand the reference anyway.

Then again, I think the moderation in general is a joke over there. Trolls run rampant while posters who don't violate any rules get modded.
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Post by: Jacob31593 on November 05, 2008, 04:27:25 pm
back in my day, being an admin meant something
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Post by: Archael on November 05, 2008, 04:31:31 pm
Lead Mod decided to uphold the moderation

he said


A Mod/Admin replied on
11/5/2008 10:09:30 AM

"It doesn't work that way. "DEB" being someone that you fight is indeed a spoiler. If you want help with a boss that is an unexpected fight, you have to not mention him or anything about him at all in your topic title. "I need help with a certain boss *SPOILERS*" is fine."



It's really sad

DEB is not someone that you fight

DEB is someone that doesn't exist in the game

it's impossible for DEB to be a spoiler, because DEB is not in the actual game.

morons
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Post by: Jacob31593 on November 05, 2008, 04:33:18 pm
lets all spam the forum with "OMFG CANT GET PAST DEB"
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Post by: DoomSwell on November 05, 2008, 04:38:20 pm
Name the next topic "SPOILER boss fight help, stupid mod is stupid" or something to that effect. I was curious how that conversation went though, thanks for posting it Voldemort.
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Post by: Archael on November 05, 2008, 04:39:53 pm
o trust me I'm gonna make another topic
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Post by: Zenko on November 05, 2008, 04:47:37 pm
and I am too fux0rz!!!!
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Post by: Green Archer on November 05, 2008, 04:56:12 pm
Quote from: "Jacob31593"lets all spam the forum with "OMFG CANT GET PAST DEB"

Jacob31593 is right!! Let's spam GF with DEB topics!! bwahahahahaha  :twisted:
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Post by: Archael on November 05, 2008, 05:09:05 pm
I plan to

like I give a fuck about my GF account

that mod's gonna learn DEB is NOT a spoiler

whether he likes it or not


http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/gentopic ... ard=197339 (http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/gentopic.php?board=197339)
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Post by: Vanya on November 05, 2008, 05:43:52 pm
I think you need more posts in that thread. I'll make an account later an help. Think of me as a sword with natural +10 vs stupid, uninformed mods! =)
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Post by: DarthPaul on November 05, 2008, 09:25:03 pm
checked out the post and i must say sweet (becoming a catchphrase much (okay from now on if i say somethin is sweet then you fuckin know its fuckin sweet(dammit)))
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Post by: Captain Obvious on August 06, 2009, 08:52:24 am
Back in my dayz, we defeated admins with Throw Stone and regular potions. And, dammit, we liked it!
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Post by: PX_Timefordeath on August 26, 2009, 08:58:20 pm
Guys help! I can't beat DEB. I've tried everything. I've tried using Kanbabrif, but then he betrays me and turns my entire team into frogs. Petrified ones too. I've tried the Chocokin Sidequest, but they're not enough. I've even had Orlandu with math skill ride Worker 8 and 2 ninjas using "Please Eat" on him!! HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: SentinalBlade on August 26, 2009, 10:00:26 pm
I even recruited Elidbus into my party and had him spew squidlarkens at him every 4 turns to his 1.

im at a loss guys, he just CHARGE +20d me in 1 turn, and then confused +death sentenced my entire party!
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Post by: Vanya on August 26, 2009, 11:23:14 pm
I found the secret Para-dimensional Uber Ultima upgrade! I think this might just do the trick! ^_^
O noos!!!
He's immune to typeless magic!!
Pwned again! >P
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Post by: PX_Timefordeath on August 26, 2009, 11:47:34 pm
Hmmm... I finally got Boco enough JP to become a Rainbow Chocobo. Now I'm going to have him mate with my female Chocokin and hopefully get a Invisible Chocobo. That'll get me to Midgar.... I'm off to recruit a Silver Chocobo! It might be enough to tip the scales.

EDIT:Fuck, Onyx Weapon is blocking the path to getting a Silver Chocobo. HALP!
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Post by: SentinalBlade on August 26, 2009, 11:56:40 pm
dude, you gotta cast "Knights of the Round" with quad magic with 4 mimes in the party. seriously even i knew that.

whats gonna give you trouble is the ultimate weapon near teh center where the silver chocobo is kept
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Post by: boomkick on August 28, 2009, 02:33:18 pm
I tried to shark in Sephiroth and let him run a muck while the AI controlled him (he's invincible and takes 0 damage all the time when under AI control)... but I still lost!

I mean, WTF!

Need to get Voldemort, the Heretic in here. I hope his Four Swords can rape him...

EDIT: NO!!!!!!! sadfdajklawhkldsjv... Voldemort still get raped... by a...
...
...
...
....dildo attack...

(No offense lol)
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Post by: SentinalBlade on August 28, 2009, 02:50:33 pm
You can counter the dildo attack by using "cock block". it basically protects against all things prick-like, even synthetic.

But then you lose four swords D:
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Post by: PX_Timefordeath on August 28, 2009, 03:34:16 pm
Ok, I got the silver chocobo. But whenever I try to ride him, he kills Mustadio!

EDIT: I sharked in Zodiac and the Banhammer. But whenever I tried to use him, the game crashes. WTF?!