Title: Hey Everybody
Post by: Mega_Tyrant on October 14, 2008, 07:29:11 pm
Post by: Mega_Tyrant on October 14, 2008, 07:29:11 pm
Just saying hi to everyone here. I've been lurking around the board since early last year back when it was still auritech and finally decided to join today. Anyway, new discoveries lately are amazing. Props to all those involved.
Anyway a question to all you hacking vets. It looks like having some sort of programming knowledge would be very helpful were I ever to try and do something beyond using the patcher. What programming language would you guy/gals recommend learning fist?
Anyway a question to all you hacking vets. It looks like having some sort of programming knowledge would be very helpful were I ever to try and do something beyond using the patcher. What programming language would you guy/gals recommend learning fist?
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Post by: Xifanie on October 14, 2008, 09:09:24 pm
Post by: Xifanie on October 14, 2008, 09:09:24 pm
Hi
I tried the following:
- Visual Basic
- FreeBasic
- Pascal (Delphi)
- C/C++
- Java
I only used Delphi in the end. I didn't try much C because the compilers I tried took a LOT of time to download (I have dial-up) and they weren't working properly; especially Watcom.
I hate Java, seriously. It must be in my blood or something, but alst time I tried Java (2 years ago), my extremely simple programs took a ton of ressources, slow, and not really effective. Java's compilers tend to be slow too. I "heard" Java made a lot of progress lately. Yet I hate the size of their SDK; it was 58mb back then.
VB sucks, end of story.
FreeBasic was way too different than all I tried and felt completely illogical to me. I suppose it's not the case for everyone though.
The first thing you need to do when choosing a language is know what you want to do. If you'll be mostly coding programs that frequently manipulate a lot of data, choose a fast one. Executable file size is also something I personally take into account.
I tried the following:
- Visual Basic
- FreeBasic
- Pascal (Delphi)
- C/C++
- Java
I only used Delphi in the end. I didn't try much C because the compilers I tried took a LOT of time to download (I have dial-up) and they weren't working properly; especially Watcom.
I hate Java, seriously. It must be in my blood or something, but alst time I tried Java (2 years ago), my extremely simple programs took a ton of ressources, slow, and not really effective. Java's compilers tend to be slow too. I "heard" Java made a lot of progress lately. Yet I hate the size of their SDK; it was 58mb back then.
VB sucks, end of story.
FreeBasic was way too different than all I tried and felt completely illogical to me. I suppose it's not the case for everyone though.
The first thing you need to do when choosing a language is know what you want to do. If you'll be mostly coding programs that frequently manipulate a lot of data, choose a fast one. Executable file size is also something I personally take into account.
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Post by: Mega_Tyrant on October 14, 2008, 09:46:31 pm
Post by: Mega_Tyrant on October 14, 2008, 09:46:31 pm
Well, my goal is to eventually insert some new jobs into the game, and either add new damage formulas or edit the existing ones.
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Post by: Archael on October 14, 2008, 09:50:14 pm
Post by: Archael on October 14, 2008, 09:50:14 pm
hey you're that DBAG FROM PSP WOTL GF BOARD
DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Post by: DarthPaul on October 14, 2008, 10:08:24 pm
Post by: DarthPaul on October 14, 2008, 10:08:24 pm
i already had a class in visual basic and free basic when i joined so that helped
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Post by: Dominic NY18 on October 14, 2008, 10:21:04 pm
Post by: Dominic NY18 on October 14, 2008, 10:21:04 pm
What's up Mega? I see you're still editing save files after all of this time. It's going to be a year soon, right?
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Post by: Archael on October 14, 2008, 10:34:14 pm
Post by: Archael on October 14, 2008, 10:34:14 pm
hi u
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Post by: Mega_Tyrant on October 14, 2008, 11:05:05 pm
Post by: Mega_Tyrant on October 14, 2008, 11:05:05 pm
Yep, come January or February it should be a year since I started editing saves, how's it going with you? Hi to U as well Voldemort, I see I'm not the only GF user here. Who esle posts here? I know I've seen trickstar around when I was lurking.
Oh and before I forget Hi to Zodiac and Darthpaul. So VB and Delphi are good starting points?
Oh and before I forget Hi to Zodiac and Darthpaul. So VB and Delphi are good starting points?
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Post by: digitaldragoon on October 14, 2008, 11:05:48 pm
Post by: digitaldragoon on October 14, 2008, 11:05:48 pm
Hey Mega,
This guy is the reason I'm here. LionEditor is like a gateway drug that pulls you into sprite editing and patching.
This guy is the reason I'm here. LionEditor is like a gateway drug that pulls you into sprite editing and patching.
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Post by: Cheetah on October 14, 2008, 11:57:32 pm
Post by: Cheetah on October 14, 2008, 11:57:32 pm
Welcome. Hackers and hard workers always welcome.
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Post by: Xifanie on October 15, 2008, 07:07:20 am
Post by: Xifanie on October 15, 2008, 07:07:20 am
err VB might be good to start but that's it. I really don't recommend making any program out of it unless you don't care about windows-only, 100% uncompiled executable (Open it in notepad and you'll see the source of the program!!!), slow, and microsuckage.
Delphi has its particularies... I guess there aren't any language that would be perfect for me.
Delphi has its particularies... I guess there aren't any language that would be perfect for me.
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Post by: DarthPaul on October 15, 2008, 10:27:44 am
Post by: DarthPaul on October 15, 2008, 10:27:44 am
i havent tried delphi yet but learning could always be useful