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Reflect

Started by Lydyn, May 06, 2008, 06:10:33 pm

Lydyn

May 06, 2008, 06:10:33 pm Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Lydyn
There are two Reflects, actually ... one is the spell and there's another one in the Reactions section of the patcher. Does anyone know what or if it does anything? I'm still testing right now, but .. it's failed to launch. I suppose it could be a result of 55 Brave... anyways, I had assumed it would just add reflect to your character.

I'm going to switch MP Switch for Reflect if it actually works.

Lydyn

May 06, 2008, 06:24:48 pm #1 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Lydyn
Doesn't seem to be working. That's a real shame ... would've been a kind of a cool reaction ability. *Sigh*

onionknight

May 06, 2008, 06:36:32 pm #2 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by onionknight
What does it say when you hit select on it in the formation screen?

Maybe its triggered by magic and not attack/dmg/whatever else can trigger reactions.

Lydyn

May 06, 2008, 06:40:02 pm #3 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Lydyn
    Create Magic Reflect Wall.
Add: reflect.[/list]

That's exactly what it says. >.<

onionknight

May 06, 2008, 06:46:24 pm #4 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by onionknight
Try casting a spell on the person who has it.  Maybe its triggered by magic like Counter Magic.  That probably won't work but its worth a shot.

Lydyn

May 06, 2008, 07:01:13 pm #5 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Lydyn
That doesn't seem to be working either. I cast some 6 spells on him and nothing happened.

onionknight

May 06, 2008, 07:16:11 pm #6 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by onionknight
Thats strange.  Maybe they were going to add it but decided not to and left it there.

Lydyn

May 06, 2008, 07:28:33 pm #7 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Lydyn
Probably, which is sad ... instead, I just took out MP Switch all together. It's now an enemy-only reaction! Ha, now no cheap-skating it with Move-MP Up. :P

Vanya

May 06, 2008, 07:47:26 pm #8 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Vanya
Maybe it adds reflect when near death?
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Lydyn

May 06, 2008, 08:03:15 pm #9 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Lydyn
Maybe? ... I don't know. Should I just leave it in there just in case it does work? It's only 200 JP after all.

Vanya

May 06, 2008, 11:03:40 pm #10 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Vanya
Seriously, we need some beta testers. I'll try it out if you like.
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Lydyn

May 06, 2008, 11:05:32 pm #11 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Lydyn
Yeah we do. Well, like I said somewhere else, I can be a beta tester once v0.14 of Heavenly Chaos is out. I'm mostly trying to see if I can upload the entire ISO somewhere so new people don't have to hassle with installing the sprites, UNIT.BIN, ENTD files, SCUS_941.21, and BATTLE.BIN files.

Oh, and I'd be very thankful to you if you did test it out. ^^ I have so many other things to test out still. >.<

Vanya

May 06, 2008, 11:07:31 pm #12 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Vanya
'k.
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Traverse

May 07, 2008, 01:48:15 am #13 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Traverse
Battle Mechanics Guide says the ability definitely doesn't work. I love aerostar, it's like he wrote a faq just for us hackers.

Lydyn

May 07, 2008, 02:31:36 am #14 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Lydyn
Guess it wouldn't hurt to let Vanya try though. For now, I just took MP Switch out and left it blank. I'm content taking out that trick for temptation and leaving it only for enemies (there's some that use that trick, lol).

With Brave modifing out the window, I can't think of many other cheap tricks you can use that's overpowered. The best is putting Blade Grasp on Ramza, since he has 70+ Brave.

NeedsMoreNoise

May 07, 2008, 02:36:55 am #15 Last Edit: May 07, 2008, 02:57:14 am by NeedsMoreNoise
If it actually does activate when attacked by magic, that'd be a good thing to implement with the text editor. Maybe as a skill learned by Time Mages with a fairly high JP cost?

Lydyn

May 07, 2008, 02:41:43 am #16 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Lydyn
Why a high JP cost? It's only reflect. I could see 400-500 being justifiable, but having reflect also means no cure magic or support magic (which is why I hate reflect). Though, I suppose 400-500 is fairly high for a reaction ability... anyways, if (I'm not counting on it) it works, I'm putting it on my Time Mage (since they learn reflect anyways).

NeedsMoreNoise

May 07, 2008, 02:51:38 am #17 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by NeedsMoreNoise
Sorry, that was a typo; I did mean Time Mage, and 450 ~ 500 JP is high, in my opinion. Regenerator (which also adds a status upon attack, albeit a more useful one) is 400 JP, so I'd be going off of that, and say about 380. I just meant it shouldn't be readily available in the start of the game.

Lydyn

May 07, 2008, 03:00:39 am #18 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Lydyn
Yeah, I'd go with 300-350 myself. ^^

Vanya

May 07, 2008, 11:02:09 am #19 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by Vanya
Nope, I couldn't get it to activate. Oh, well.
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