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Modding => Spriting => Topic started by: CidIII on August 06, 2008, 12:58:37 am

Title: Better Tifa Sprite
Post by: CidIII on August 06, 2008, 12:58:37 am
I found a better Tifa sprite I'll upload a video shortly.

This one actually looks like Tifa.

*EDIT*
Here is video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7mOCsh6R_E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7mOCsh6R_E)
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Post by: Vanya on August 06, 2008, 01:05:02 am
Cool. I'd like to see it.
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Post by: CidIII on August 06, 2008, 01:08:27 am
Uploading to Youtube now, it's pretty good might not be able to tell because my video quality is shitty but theirs wasn't.
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Post by: CidIII on August 06, 2008, 01:33:21 am
There it's up there now, enjoy :D
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Post by: Archael on August 06, 2008, 02:19:48 am
subbed
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Post by: CidIII on August 06, 2008, 02:36:31 am
Nvm, I get it.

I found a FF2 FFT Video, and a video with some event editing.
*EDIT* Also a FF12 Character mod, but we have already seen those characters

Anyone interested in seeing those?  :P
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Post by: KazeKasano on August 06, 2008, 12:36:51 pm
I'd love to see those. It sounds pretty cool. Twelve has been my favorite so far (as unpopular an opinion as that seems to be).
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Post by: Kuraudo Sutoraifu on August 06, 2008, 02:07:58 pm
The video looks crappy, but the sprite looks solid.  I can't wait to see it.
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Post by: Zozma on August 06, 2008, 03:55:11 pm
how can we get our hands on those sprites?
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Post by: CidIII on August 06, 2008, 05:46:40 pm
The video's crappy because I had to use CamStudio to record it.
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Post by: CidIII on August 06, 2008, 08:15:49 pm
FF2 FFT Video, not crappy this time!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmgSobrH88s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmgSobrH88s)

nvm it is kind of crappy still, type &fmt=18

That makes it a little better

The Leon/Delita sprite is pretty cool.
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Post by: Cheetah on August 06, 2008, 09:17:07 pm
So are you just finding these videos on one of the Japanese FFT sites and then uploading it to your Youtube account?
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Post by: CidIII on August 06, 2008, 09:38:28 pm
Yeah.

They are from nicovideo (Japanese Youtube)

It's hard to register and view videos/search for them if you don't know Japanese.
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Post by: Zozma on August 06, 2008, 09:41:38 pm
*pulls out glacial gun* can you hand me the sprite please!
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Post by: Tersius on August 06, 2008, 10:18:36 pm
Yes, hand over the girl (Tifa) or somebody is going to die.
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Post by: Zozma on August 06, 2008, 10:28:36 pm
*hands Tersius a blast gun*
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Post by: goldblade0 on August 06, 2008, 10:33:39 pm
Dont froget about me
*pulls out stone gun*
Wait dosent it pe...*petrifies*
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Post by: Tersius on August 08, 2008, 01:45:00 am
*cocks gun*
Come on this is getting serious!  Don't make me wait much longer or I'll... I'll... GO BANANAS or something!
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Post by: Zozma on August 08, 2008, 02:37:12 am
*removes the glacial bullets and loads stop bracelet ammo*
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Post by: gojoe on August 08, 2008, 03:58:29 pm
*charges lazer*
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Post by: Zozma on August 08, 2008, 04:10:32 pm
*still aiming the stop bracelet gun, equips non-charge and prepares to cast Tornado, Quake and Melt simultaneously*
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Post by: Luiakyn on August 25, 2008, 09:57:56 pm
-Simply casts the "Haste" spell on TC-
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Post by: Zozma on October 31, 2008, 08:13:44 pm
sigh, no way to find that sprite huh? that sucks..
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Post by: Archael on October 31, 2008, 08:21:41 pm
Quote from: "Luiakyn"-Simply casts the "Haste" spell on TC-

who are you, izlude with longer hair looking person!?
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Post by: BeoulveBlack on October 31, 2008, 10:41:08 pm
damn, i was hoping someone found that sprite....
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Post by: Zozma on October 31, 2008, 10:43:11 pm
what i like so much about it is its really based on the original ff7 character art and not the new stuff everyone in those looks quite a bit more ... well asian and thats not how i pictured tifa at all.
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Post by: BeoulveBlack on November 01, 2008, 09:55:13 am
yeah... the only character in FF7 that was actually asian was Yuffie.

but that's like the japanese: after decades of making japanese anime/manga/gamecharcters look western, they finally go and make western ones look asian...
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Post by: Zozma on November 01, 2008, 03:33:01 pm
maybe because it was a bigger hit than they expected? or perhaps the artist doing the 3d models just gets those features in there weather deliberate or not.

its kind of like how the character art in 7 must be by a different artist than the way they are drawn in newer stuff like say, kingdom hearts. its not as good as original tho it may look nice too..
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Post by: Zozma on November 02, 2008, 05:26:37 am
sigh well i was trying to poke around all the files found at this site

http://fft.nm.land.to/ (http://fft.nm.land.to/)

but im not sure where to look, i did find downloads of all the new psp sprites but i donno where to find this tifa :(

and this, i wish i knew what all that crap said, maybe it would point us in the right direction.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm1992462 (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm1992462)

this means Tifa, apparently... ティファ
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Post by: BeoulveBlack on November 02, 2008, 09:19:01 am
where's that guy that knows/translate japanese...?

BTW, where are all of the new PSP sprites at on this guy's uploader?
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Post by: Zozma on November 02, 2008, 03:32:47 pm
ill make it easy and just post them here when i get home
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Post by: gojoe on November 02, 2008, 04:41:29 pm
using google translator this is what i got, apparently this is a japanese video site

" FFT battleground FF7? のティファがクラウドを救う びっくり TIFA with the help of the amazing Cloud
FFTでFF'のティファが先日仲間になりました。 FFT in the FF 'colleagues recently of the TIFA. まさかティファが仲間になるとは思わなかったです。 TIFA will be a companion and I did not. ちなみにパッチの場所は教えたはずです。 By the way, should be taught the location of the patch. 池沼はこまりますね。池沼the KOMARIMASU. なお池沼の荒らしがいたので一部コメントを非表示にしています。 In addition some of池沼because of the vandalism was to hide the comments. ゴキブリは無視して楽しみましょう。 Go to ignore the roaches. 在日、在日ってなにがわるいのですか? Japan, but what is bad in Japan? 日本が昔強制連行してきたから、しょうがなくいるんじゃないんですか。 Japan has been forced from the old days, and YOUGANAKUIRUNJANAINDESUKA. 日本ははやく韓国に対して心から詫びるべきです。 From Japan詫BIRUBEKI mind that South Korea is fast. そして強制連行されてきた人たちに対しては賠償金を支払うべきです。 And has been forced on people who are owed reparations. 今もらっている月10万弱ではとても足りません。 Now that I have a very weak month Enough 100,000. "

here's translated links to above mentioned sites

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Ffft.nm.land.to%2F&sl=ja&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nicovideo.jp%2Fwatch%2Fsm1992462&sl=ja&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
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Post by: Zozma on November 02, 2008, 04:59:15 pm
that might help us out. i dont see why we would need to make a tifa sprite from scratch if such a well made one already exists.. im sure its easy to get if you are japanese...

its funny no one seemed to request one being made, but it would be nice.
id love to have the trio Cloud, Tifa, Barret together again as after aeris died i always used those 3.
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Post by: gojoe on November 02, 2008, 05:17:52 pm
i tried registering (now free!) but no email response, it was a bitch too had to translate the form part by part cuz google wouldn't translate the page
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Post by: Zozma on November 02, 2008, 05:21:56 pm
i also found portraits of Zack and Guildus (tactics ogre) i wonder if they made the sprites already, whoever the portrait maker is, they are pretty good. if anything they would make good templates if anyone wants to use them as base portraits for customs
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Post by: gojoe on November 02, 2008, 05:27:37 pm
we really need to get in touch with these guys, anyone here wanna do it?
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Post by: Zozma on November 02, 2008, 05:34:38 pm
do you think they would be willing to share? i hope so....
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Post by: gojoe on November 02, 2008, 05:38:13 pm
hmmmm for some reason i wanna say that the japanese are prideful and arrogant but you still never know, and as far as hacking aside from sprites, there will be conflicts as jp and eng games are somewhat different
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Post by: Zozma on November 02, 2008, 05:45:46 pm
Quote from: "gojoe"hmmmm for some reason i wanna say that the japanese are prideful and arrogant but you still never know, and as far as hacking aside from sprites, there will be conflicts as jp and eng games are somewhat different

hmm funny thats what I automatically assumed too.... I hate to just think that way but why else would this stuff be so super hard to find... there wouldnt be any conflict with sprites tho... still I have no doubt that i can make a beautiful Tifa myself if I really have to resort to that. I, however, am holding out the hope that we will someday soon get to this one instead. and wed give credit to the creator if we even knew what his/her name was lol...
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Post by: CidIII on November 02, 2008, 07:35:31 pm
I wish I had some free time I put a lot of time into those Jap sites trying to find their sprites I did manage to find some pretty cool sites, though not Tifa.
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Post by: Zozma on November 02, 2008, 07:38:30 pm
come on tifa! come to us!
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Post by: DarthPaul on November 02, 2008, 08:28:41 pm
in all of your extreme bustiness
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Post by: Zozma on November 03, 2008, 03:19:18 am
well here are those psp sprites
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Post by: Zozma on November 03, 2008, 03:20:36 am
and
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Post by: DarthPaul on November 03, 2008, 09:55:26 am
likin the creative name changes
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Post by: Zozma on November 03, 2008, 04:56:29 pm
hehe, it is what it is man, we all know about THOSE dark knights...
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Post by: DarthPaul on November 03, 2008, 05:23:41 pm
maybe they can be turned into something semi decent

AURA chop chop
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Post by: Zozma on November 03, 2008, 05:29:35 pm
i think the very worst parts of them are the portrait, and the head. parts of the body MIGHT be salvageable, and maybe the arms alone ar good...

the coloring is off too, they used too sharp of a color set
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Post by: DarthPaul on November 03, 2008, 05:37:02 pm
yes very and the sprite head looks like someone from a nuclear reaction with a huge forhead
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Post by: gojoe on November 03, 2008, 05:51:54 pm
anyone get a membership to that video site yet?
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Post by: Xeno3 on November 03, 2008, 09:11:57 pm
well for the dark knights why not just use gargarf's(or how ever it's spelled, thats what we call him over here) sprite edit out the head and tinker around with his sprite sheet via Photoshop and the color adjustment option.
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Post by: DarthPaul on November 03, 2008, 09:27:22 pm
we already did that

http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1083 (http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1083)
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Post by: Zozma on November 03, 2008, 09:41:51 pm
if the arms arent completely crap then the sprite isnt 100% garbage...
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Post by: DarthPaul on November 03, 2008, 09:47:00 pm
there ya go the legendary quotes of zozma
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Post by: Xeno3 on November 03, 2008, 10:48:07 pm
dang lol the bmp sprite sheet had such a dark lavander that I thought the whole thing was black at first >_<  but not bad darthpaul, but I think dark lavander just doesn't suit it very well, well at least in my opinion, other then that great job
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Post by: DarthPaul on November 04, 2008, 01:45:32 pm
i have a special project to work on before i improve it
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on November 10, 2008, 09:19:35 pm
I wanted to try to make a close copy of that Tifa sprite but right now i only have the hair done. Does it look okay? Its pretty much the dancer hair with some changes though.
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Post by: Cheetah on November 10, 2008, 09:23:29 pm
Oh I think it looks real real good.
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Post by: Zozma on November 10, 2008, 09:52:00 pm
so it looked rpetty close to that then? thats a good start right there
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on November 12, 2008, 04:26:47 pm
Okay I'm done the stationary views. I'm also done the front walking animations. Do the colors look alright because i was limited? I have 3 skin colors, 4 hair colors, 3 shirt colors, 3 glove/shoe colors, hair shine, shade, and background, so i couldnt have a different color for the arms sleeve things and the skirt.
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Post by: Zozma on November 12, 2008, 04:52:38 pm
it looks nice, but you need to make the brown shades from one to the next get a little lighter to create a better sheen. the lightest color, which is a skin tone is too different from the second lightest shade of brown they should smoothly go from one to the next. but you got the hair down really well.
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Post by: Cheetah on November 12, 2008, 07:15:25 pm
Looks good overall. I feel like there is something a little off with the reds you are using, but I can't put my figure on it.
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Post by: Zozma on November 12, 2008, 07:53:15 pm
both the red and the brown are a little hard, best to mimic a red and brown that are used on other palettes really... but it looks great
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on November 13, 2008, 07:08:53 pm
ok i will, i got the colors from the picture made by Square Enix of her so i guess they werent fit for FFT. Ok ill get right on it.
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Post by: CidIII on November 18, 2008, 10:13:30 pm
Yeah, it looks pretty good!

If your talking about the Japanese Site Nico Video, then yes, I even made a tutorial for subscribing to it.

http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=886 (http://www.ffhacktics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=886)

Also, if you're too lazy I have made an account for the forums to use:

Login: ffhacktics@hotmail.com
Password: hacks909
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on March 23, 2009, 03:43:53 pm
Well I looked at my Tifa sprite and and fixed a view just to show how much better it looks from the original.
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Post by: Cheetah on March 23, 2009, 03:51:29 pm
Great improvement Miroshi, much much better. Though I do have to say that I like how the second looks more like a mini-skirt instead of shorts.
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on March 23, 2009, 03:54:11 pm
Hmm, I agree I'll go fix that, the original uses Valmafra's skirt but it was holding me up since there is no back view of it so I decided to use the Thief's...eerr...pant-diaper thing which looked better but as you said, it looks like pants and not a mini skirt....
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Post by: Cheetah on March 23, 2009, 04:16:03 pm
Keep this up Miroshi, your improvement is definitely showing.
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on March 23, 2009, 04:23:02 pm
Thanks ^-^, I'm gonna be getting back into spriting since my research paper will be finished next week (ugh i hate research papers)

Top Three Sprites to Finish
1.) Minwu
2.) Tifa (Since i have most of the sprite done just needs some improvements)
3.) Aeris (Smash made that awesome aeris view and I think I can build off that! [Smash is an awesome new spriter lol])
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Post by: Zozma on March 23, 2009, 05:04:09 pm
tifa tifa tifa!
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Post by: Tea on March 23, 2009, 07:35:57 pm
somehow I think a little bit more brown wouldn't be bad, otherwise you *might* want to try the gloves and boots have the colour of the hair.

I also vote Tifa to be the first to finish.
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Post by: Zozma on March 23, 2009, 07:39:37 pm
i think the brown would look better if you had it shaded as well as the black one.
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on March 23, 2009, 07:53:35 pm
Well unfortunately I can only have black or brown I've already used all 16 colors but I'll try to switch black out for brown I just need to find the right shading for it.
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Post by: Tea on March 23, 2009, 08:01:53 pm
trying too hard here.
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on March 23, 2009, 08:12:31 pm
hmm it does look better but i think the red in her hair makes it seem a little off
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Post by: Tea on March 23, 2009, 08:15:31 pm
its not too bad without highlight too.
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Post by: Zozma on March 23, 2009, 08:43:28 pm
actually, even if its not red you use there, it looks much better than the extremely contrasting skin tone that was used as the sheen before...

make a bigger difference between shades of brown they are too close together. its okay if her hair looks somewhat lighter than it did in ff7. what about using my beatrix sprite colors for an example, better yet the Zozma sprite hair color is one of the darkest brown ive worked with and it doesnt get TOO dark.
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Post by: LastingDawn on March 24, 2009, 01:45:43 pm
If I may request Minwu, the Mercenaries demo is right around the corner and if I could have just one new job's sprite finished by then I  would be highly grateful.
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Post by: Kokojo on March 24, 2009, 02:03:49 pm
Lasting_Dawn, if i may, the dark knights sprites are soon (1-2 weeks ?) to hit the market, so i think you could use them, even if i do too.
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Post by: Cheetah on March 24, 2009, 02:18:21 pm
I think there can still be a happy medium found between the grey/black and the dark brown, because I definitely don't like the red in the hair.
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on March 24, 2009, 06:49:57 pm
dont worry LD minwu will remain the first priority
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on April 26, 2009, 01:33:26 am
Well before I start fixing the pallette I might as well finish the sprite first.
Here's an update all main poses are finished and now im gonna start to work on the walking animations.
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Post by: Cheetah on April 26, 2009, 02:46:52 am
I love it, though the hair band looks a little low, shouldn't it be higher?
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on April 26, 2009, 12:16:59 pm
I think her hair band is in correct position.
Look at this picture, Cheetah.

(http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt312/jimmyjw88/FFVIITifa1.jpg)
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Post by: Cheetah on April 26, 2009, 01:25:50 pm
Hmmm it looks a bit odd, but what will really matter is how it looks in the rear walking animation.
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Post by: Zozma on April 26, 2009, 07:34:11 pm
for odd its only that the hair might seem slightly shorter
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on April 27, 2009, 12:03:46 am
Yea. Perhaps abit longer for her hair
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Post by: dwib on April 27, 2009, 01:20:25 am
i think the problem with the hair is that the shading makes it suggest the hair band should be placed higher, but it is drawn lower. it looks out of place
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Post by: Asmo X on April 27, 2009, 01:37:13 am
Quote from: "dwib"i think the problem with the hair is that the shading makes it suggest the hair band should be placed higher, but it is drawn lower. it looks out of place

This is exactly it. The hair looks like it's bound way above where the band is
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on April 27, 2009, 05:14:10 am
Miroshi, are you planning to show abit of her belly button? ^^
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on April 27, 2009, 08:38:25 am
Well i noticed the hair too after you mentioned it XD. I'm gonna restart her hair and it is being based on the archer's hair.
I'll put her belly button if i have room
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Post by: Zozma on April 27, 2009, 04:34:07 pm
looks great overall, what arms are you using?
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on April 28, 2009, 07:07:07 pm
<Removed (GAH! It posted it twice >.<)>
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on April 28, 2009, 07:13:18 pm
Okay Ive been using the archer's hair for awhile so here's the rear walking animations. I tried to make a moving picture (whats it called XD) but it wouldnt accept any format i tried to submit. Also I edited the portrait the japanese made to fit my tifa but credit goes to the japanese for this awesome portrait...(oh guess wat I think i credited them like they dont do for us!)

Zozma: I don't know what arms to use but probably the dancer arms since theyre very easy to edit for Tifa's arms. But I'll post any changes I'll make to the sprite.
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Post by: Zalge on April 28, 2009, 07:39:03 pm
two comments;
1. Neck too long
2. Head too small

IMO
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on April 28, 2009, 07:41:43 pm
Sprite: Archer's head unchanged
Portrait: Neck was done by japanese and was based off Lettie's Portrait (Assassin)
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Post by: Cheetah on April 28, 2009, 07:43:12 pm
Yeah the neck is way too long, I don't know if the head is too small though. I'm also not sure if I'm a fan of the archer's hair, just a little too puffy maybe?
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Post by: Zalge on April 28, 2009, 07:46:29 pm
Quote from: "Miroshi Beshima"Sprite: Archer's head unchanged
Portrait: Neck was done by japanese and was based off Lettie's Portrait (Assassin)
No wonder the neck looks like crap. I wasn't gunna say anything. Well, I'll see what I can do. I won't need any credit once its done though, I'm just gunna try.
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Post by: Zozma on April 28, 2009, 07:48:00 pm
nooooo, try to take a closer look at that jap video of the ff7 style tifa.

THATS the kind of portrait to go for, this is kind of a fixed up version of the japanese one for ff7ac....
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Post by: Zalge on April 28, 2009, 07:52:28 pm
Quote from: "Zozma"nooooo, try to take a closer look at that jap video of the ff7 style tifa.

THATS the kind of portrait to go for, this is kind of a fixed up version of the japanese one for ff7ac....
I was thinking of doing that, just trying to copy it from the video.
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Post by: Zozma on April 28, 2009, 07:55:22 pm
exactly, that portrait, even from the distance i saw it looked gorgeous
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Post by: Zalge on April 28, 2009, 08:00:41 pm
Quote from: "Zozma"exactly, that portrait, even from the distance i saw it looked gorgeous
yeah... it was also kinda fuzzy too, but still, an amazing portrait. I'm in teh process of doing my best to copy the fuzzy thing.
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Post by: Zozma on April 28, 2009, 08:03:12 pm
it reminded me so much of the original ff7 artwork for her (which is the  way i like them)
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Post by: Zalge on April 28, 2009, 08:09:24 pm
Crap. My copy started out ok, but now its turning horrible! >.< I think I'll try again.
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Post by: Zozma on April 28, 2009, 08:12:09 pm
awws
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Post by: Zalge on April 28, 2009, 08:16:06 pm
Quote from: "Zozma"awws
Ok, the only real problem was the head, here is what I have so far, lookin' good?

EDIT: Getting better IMO
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Post by: Smash on April 28, 2009, 08:41:18 pm
Shameful.


There's no diference between this and the actual sprite theft.

You fucking thieves.

Fuck you all
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*Psst...*
Imma lending you a hand.
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l208/xavier2000/PhotobucketUpld-169.png)

Lol.

Also Zalge, don't use black for the hair, instead, a dark brown would fit.
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Post by: Zalge on April 28, 2009, 08:56:07 pm
Quote from: "Smash"Shameful.


There's no diference between this and the actual sprite theft.

You fucking thieves.

Fuck you all

You bastard! How dare you!

EDIT: I know, I know.
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Dang, you beat me to it. I was still working on it xD I planned on changing the hair color anyway, it didn't look right...
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Post by: Zozma on April 28, 2009, 09:03:23 pm
wow u guys mimic that little video portrait pretty well!
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Post by: Zalge on April 28, 2009, 09:10:05 pm
Here is my attempt without the hair color change.

The shading is crap, I've never been good at it.
The eye also felt awkward.
I also didn't like the hair as much as I thought I would. I had an earlier version that didnt have the right side of the hair shaded, but... eh. =P

This is what I did.
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Post by: Zozma on April 28, 2009, 09:12:22 pm
but u know what, i actually like the idea of her eyes looking in that direction.

somehow i think it looks better for her to be looking to the right like that
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on April 28, 2009, 10:23:37 pm
Great work on the rear for tifa, Miroshi.
But I think Cheetah is right. The hair is abit too puffy.
Perhaps remove a few pixels of it ^^
Also, nice work on the portrait, Zalge.
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Post by: Cheetah on April 28, 2009, 10:31:03 pm
I'm liking where this project is going, keep up the good work guys.
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on April 29, 2009, 08:55:42 am
Nice portrait Zalge! I completely forgot about the portrait from the video >.<. Though the eye looks kinda funky, like squarish-like. But then again your not done with it so i dont kno what you have planned for it XD...maybe you shoukld add some skin color to her hair, make it shine! lol...and maybe use some more shading for her shirt because it looks like one color....(i myself can never get different shades of white to look different from each other so the shading goes all flat-like)
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Post by: Zalge on April 29, 2009, 06:33:32 pm
New Version, I redid the shading a bit, changed the hair color, and... well, this is how it turned out.

Criticism?

EDIT: Fix'd And its only using 15 colors =D

Anyone think I should take out the earring? I'm seriously considering it. (either that or using a lighter main color for it, to make it more noticeable.)
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Post by: Zozma on April 29, 2009, 07:11:25 pm
i would suggest using the way smash has it looking as far as hair, gotta get that sheen going
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Post by: Smash on April 29, 2009, 07:30:00 pm
That's actually a screenshot I took, just fixed the face a bit.


Anyways, the original has traces of that huge fft-esque dithering style on the hair, making it can be easy if you know what I mean.
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Post by: Zalge on April 29, 2009, 07:52:40 pm
One last version for the day.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on May 01, 2009, 05:56:57 am
Sorry Zalge but is her right eye should be like that?
It looks like her hair instead of her eye
Just saying ^^
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Post by: Zozma on May 01, 2009, 04:09:26 pm
the white still needs to be there
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Post by: Zalge on May 01, 2009, 04:20:25 pm
Two more versions, the shirt colors changed, and I added another eye because I keep getting badgered about that. Personally I dont like it. I would rather just make the bit of hair that hangs over the eye bigger to cover where the eye would be.

I don't really like these versions... so, yeah... just comment or whatever. Although, the second of the two is promising, you just cant tell very easily where the other eye is.
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Post by: Zozma on May 01, 2009, 04:55:02 pm
the eye was in the right place before but it was missing the white. now its too close to the other one. its better to make the hair either go over the eye or be just a bit higher up so that it doesnt mess with the eye at all
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on May 02, 2009, 03:32:53 am
Yea. What Zozma suggested.
First version is obviously too close.
Second version is like her right eye is bigger than her left eye due to her hair slick down ^^
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on May 02, 2009, 04:08:27 am
Erm...perhaps something like this Zalge.
Just a suggestion ^^

Tifa portrait (still looks abit weird though)
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Post by: Smash on May 02, 2009, 04:10:12 am
Quote from: "jimmyjw88"Erm...perhaps something like this Zalge.
Just a suggestion ^^

Tifa portrait (still looks abit weird though)
This is how I imagined the portrait in the first place.


It needs more hair covering that side though.
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Post by: Zozma on May 02, 2009, 06:23:09 am
there, its looking more like it should
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Post by: Zalge on May 02, 2009, 08:06:31 am
How bout this? I cooked it up after those two horrible versions. (so no more bugging about eyes, agreed?)

It could probably still use a bit of editing.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on May 02, 2009, 09:45:19 am
It looking good but I think you should push her hair in abit if you want to show abit portion of her face at her right.
Cause her face is looking abit wide.
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on May 02, 2009, 01:55:28 pm
I tried to attempt to make a portrait. I mixed Jimmy's portrait with the FFVII portrait they used in the party menu. I have two versions, one has a higher eye placement and the other with a lower. I tried to get the head tilted like the FF7 portrait.
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Post by: Zalge on May 02, 2009, 02:25:41 pm
I like it Miroshi =D

I did a little re-edit of the first one, to make her look... well, not so serious xD (I also changed a bit on the hair)

EDIT: added two more versions in an attempt to make her face look... not so sharp in the bottom left. (The bottom was the first one)

EDIT2: And yet another to fix a few problems with the two after the first one. However, they seem a bit... odd. The first (Bottom) one seems bit more girly (as it should be)
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on May 03, 2009, 12:17:50 am
Here's another go at the portrait. I tried to make her head tilt a little more and give her some shine in her hair by using skin colors too.
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Post by: Zozma on May 03, 2009, 01:05:20 am
awws its starting to develope
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Post by: Cheetah on May 03, 2009, 01:41:14 am
I'm liking the tilt idea. I think the hair is looking a lot better in that recent one Miroshi. But maybe tone down the tilt back to how it was...hmmm maybe not. Either way keep it up, this is going to turn out great.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on May 03, 2009, 03:01:39 am
This is starting to turn out to be great, Miroshi ^^
Great job but I think her right eye is a pixel more.
Compared to her left eye, her right eye have 3 browns and 1 white while her left eye have 2 browns and 1 white.

As for her highlight of her back hair, I think it look just fine ^^
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on May 03, 2009, 12:26:40 pm
Ok here's an update on the portrait. I added the strap and fixed her hair a bit. There's 16 colors in the portrait so her colors have been filled. Also the width of the portrait was 1 pixel off so i had to fix that too.
Now i think i'll get back to working on the sprite XD
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on May 03, 2009, 04:52:08 pm
Okay heres an update on the rear view animation. I mixed the dancer hair with the archer hair and i got this...I think she doesnt look as poofy as she did. What do you all think?
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Post by: Cheetah on May 03, 2009, 05:04:27 pm
Yeah the hair looks much better. If it could be slimmed down a bit more it would be even better, but I doubt it is worth the effort. The different hair colors between the sprite and the portrait are really clashing though... I definitely like the dark hair on the sprite.
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on May 03, 2009, 05:09:10 pm
I put brown on the sprite just a few minutes ago....tooooo much brown. Looks crappy to me >.<. Maybe we should keep to black unless we find a good brown to use.
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Post by: Cheetah on May 03, 2009, 05:53:04 pm
I say try to find some good black shades that work on the portrait...
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on May 03, 2009, 06:48:04 pm
Okay, i tried to get the portrait with black hair and i think i did prettyy decent except the lightest color in her hair...idk i just couldnt make it look right....Tell me what you think.  Also, i have posted a .bmp file with the portrait and its pallette so that anyone wants to edit the pallette. I have one unused brown color that we can get rid of too.
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Post by: Cheetah on May 03, 2009, 07:24:13 pm
Ah yeah I like that a lot more.
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on May 03, 2009, 07:55:53 pm
Can I ask one question....how come nobody used Ctrl+PrtScn and paste it?...I was able to obtain the japanese's Tifa portrait from the video that way. All we have to do is fix the pallette!
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Post by: Cheetah on May 03, 2009, 08:21:07 pm
Smash did do that, he had it under a spoiler tab. Look on the last page or one more back. I just doesn't come out quite right.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on May 03, 2009, 11:33:53 pm
That looks great Miroshi ^^
I'm liking the black color hair that you changed ^^
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Post by: mav on May 04, 2009, 02:29:57 pm
QuoteCan I ask one question....how come nobody used Ctrl+PrtScn and paste it?...I was able to obtain the japanese's Tifa portrait from the video that way. All we have to do is fix the pallette!  
Well, I did a print screen, then I sharpened it a bit. If anyone wants to resize it, clean the errors, and fix the palette, I've attached the sharpened version.

Honestly though, you've done so well with your portrait that fixing this one feels like a disservice.
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Post by: Zozma on May 04, 2009, 04:16:01 pm
its still the best one, whoever that guy is, i bet the sprite is good too.

miroshi's is looking good too, but the chin needs to be smoothed out or something i think...
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on May 04, 2009, 04:22:34 pm
I'm working on the arms right now. The video showed that the tifa had edited Female monk Arms So that's what I'm using. It's turning out really good! I'm going to try to make her hair brown again and add two blacks for her arm warmer things and attempt to get rid of two colors. I'm probably gonna have to darken her shirt colors too so those arms pads don't look too bright. I've finished the arms for the walking animations and now i have to work on the arms for the attack animations.

EDIT:...HOLY CRAP 200th POST!!
           Let's All Celebrate!
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Post by: Cheetah on May 04, 2009, 08:04:03 pm
Not that we need more people working on Tifa portraits...but I just had to make a few suggestions.

I reworked the hair color and made some slight changes to the hair style. The other thing that really needs to be done is more colors for the skin. You have the basic colors down but most portraits use a lot of browns to diversify the shadowing and skin tones. For most portraits these colors come from the hair, but I think it might be worth it to remove a shade or two of black to contribute to this.
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Post by: Zozma on May 04, 2009, 08:13:03 pm
really our crew is better at the ff7 sprites then "they" are :)

cheeter the hair needs more sheen. i really think you guys should stick with giving it a more brownish tint especially because it can then be blended with the skin for better shading all around.
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Post by: Zalge on May 04, 2009, 08:20:56 pm
I've given up working on them. I've obviously been pwned in the face by everyone else's amazing skillz
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Post by: Cheetah on May 04, 2009, 08:22:32 pm
I really don't like the brown though, she has black hair. With just a white and black shirt there should be plenty of colors to spice up her face. The hair could use a bit more sheen, but not too much because that isn't the FFT style. The the shading and texture of the hair as a whole is something I am terrible at.
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on May 04, 2009, 08:26:03 pm
Okay, i started to use valmafra as a base again like i did in the original and it turned out a LOT better. I also fixed up the hair, making it longer like the video.

The Video's Tifa has
-Female Monk Arms
-Valmafra Based Legs (and Skirt) and chest (maybe?)
-Dancer hair

My Tifa has
-Female Monk Arms
-Fusion of Valmafra and Thief legs and Chest
-Fusion of Archer and Dancer hair

Mine is pretty well based on the video's tifa and it's coming out well
Here's a preview!
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Post by: Zozma on May 04, 2009, 08:26:48 pm
she only has "black" hair because they japanized her in FF7AC, remember that this portrait is based off of the original
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Post by: Zalge on May 04, 2009, 11:08:29 pm
I have to agree with Zozma. She has brown hair. I don't know why the hell they decided to change it for AC. It didn't really bother me though. I prefer her with brown hair.
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Post by: Zozma on May 04, 2009, 11:40:03 pm
since they were such a hit now they are trying to japanize them to make themselves cooler? lol...
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on May 04, 2009, 11:49:25 pm
Well, I feel that black is kinda nice actually.
It gives her the look ^^
(http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt312/jimmyjw88/FFVIITifa1.jpg)

Pretty, don't you think? ^^

Well, if really want to change brown for her hair, maybe dark browns.
I think it will look nice too. ^^
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Post by: Zozma on May 05, 2009, 12:04:35 am
thats what im saying, thats straying from the original concept of this portrait which is the original ff7 look...
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on May 05, 2009, 12:09:29 am
I'm not even sure if this picture's tifa's hair is black or brown but I think its dark brown, right?
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Post by: Zozma on May 05, 2009, 12:36:18 am
playing with one of the pictures too..

top is most recent uhh someone else work on the clavicles and shoulders i suck at that lol... its 16 colors already...
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Post by: dwib on May 05, 2009, 12:38:28 am
loving second portrait zozma, the best i've seen so far
the third is missing a mouth completely which looks funny
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Post by: Zozma on May 05, 2009, 03:04:17 am
so the portrait with the 3 is the least complete, i posted a more complete one above that + an enlarged version.

also, i dont think the monk arms are working out too well, id suggest using the female archer, arms or female theif arms minus the sleeves.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on May 05, 2009, 11:56:36 am
Wow Zozma, these are amazing ^^
Great job ^^
But if you want to use browns for her hair, then I think the sprite's hair colors should change too.
If not, there'll be some clashing.
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Post by: mav on May 05, 2009, 12:19:25 pm
Good job Zozma, those portraits look great.

As far as spriting suggestions go, I agree that the arms need to be replaced (female archer's will look good) and the hair should be changed to brown on the sprite, if possible.
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on May 05, 2009, 03:08:41 pm
Guys, I stated like a page or two ago that the sprites hair WILL be changed to brown. I have no intentions of keeping it black
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on May 05, 2009, 04:23:02 pm
Okay I have changed the sprite hair to brown but kept her arm warmer things and skirt black. I had to remove two colors for that; The Middle color for the shirt and the shine color for the hair. (Ugh I hate color limits >.<) But I think it turned out pretty decent. Do the colors look all right because I couldnt tell if the loss colors had any dramatic effect to the sprite.
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Post by: dwib on May 05, 2009, 11:55:25 pm
does she have elbow pads on or something? they are really distracting
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Post by: Zozma on May 06, 2009, 01:08:52 am
as i was saying, i think the monk arms are not the right choice. youll have to do more work editing with them as opposed to....

Archer arms
Thief arms
or even Dancer arms
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on May 06, 2009, 01:44:36 am
Yea. Zozma is right.
The monks' arms just doesn't look right.
Makes her look like she's have robotic arms.
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on May 06, 2009, 08:28:52 am
I kno, theyll be changed i just did some pallette editing and wanted to show you all. Also i am goin to darken the white colors to reduce the amount of distraction.
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Post by: dwib on May 06, 2009, 07:11:39 pm
the whites look fine, i just don't know what is supposed be the white thing on her arm?
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on May 06, 2009, 07:37:13 pm
They are shoulder pads. Do you want me to get rid of them or make them smaller? FF7 Tifa has elbow pads so I wanted to include them in the sprite too.
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Post by: Zozma on May 06, 2009, 07:43:33 pm
id suggest simply not having them, sometimes its better to leave out certain details, especially when dealing with such a smaller scale version of the character
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on May 06, 2009, 07:51:34 pm
ok then ill leave them out. I only have the arms, attack animations and Damaged Animations left until the spritesheet is finished. Then Ill go into Shishi and cheack if the placements are correct.
Btw Tifa seems to be a pixel taller than most sprites.

Also, after this version is complete I'll be working on an AC version and no it will not be a Dancer rip off. I already have it planned out, Id be using Vlamafra or Thief skirt, Meliadoul Top layer of her dress, and this tifa's chest.
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Post by: dwib on May 06, 2009, 08:28:04 pm
good idea, the shoulder pads weren't working at all that's what i was trying to get at. keep up the good work
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Post by: Zozma on May 06, 2009, 08:32:34 pm
yes did a great job, im thinkin of making her appear temporarily in my patch, since i already have a "brawler" job anyway
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on May 08, 2009, 12:34:06 am
Yea, this is looking great, Miroshi.
And I agreed with the removal of the shoulder pad.
It's true that sometimes, certain details will make the sprite looks bit weird and funny.
Take my Kaze (made by KazeKasano, continued by me) sprite for example, I add some details for the scar(blue) on his face but it looks funny and weird.
Removing it makes it look better...alot better ^^
Anyway, you really did a great job here. Can't wait till this is done and start with AC Tifa, which I bet will definitely be alot better than that AC Tifa made by those japanese (which only recolored from Lede)
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on May 11, 2009, 08:07:15 pm
Tifa is extremely close to being completed...there are a few animations to finish and then the arms. I also worked on fixing the portrait the japanese gave her. One is the closest i could get and the second is slightly more edited.
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Post by: Cheetah on May 11, 2009, 08:47:51 pm
I think I actually like the first one better, of the two you posted. Great to hear Miroshi.
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on May 11, 2009, 08:49:39 pm
Okay, I was actually gonna go with the first one anyone haha i just wanted to see what the highlight of the back of her hair would look right and what you all thought of it.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on May 12, 2009, 10:42:44 am
Yup. I think first one is better too.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on May 13, 2009, 12:24:49 am
By the way Miroshi, what happen to that tilt Tifa version?
And are the above two portraits from the japanese?
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on May 13, 2009, 08:47:18 am
that is the portrait the japanese gave her exceot it has 16 colors now and a pallette. It is better than my portrait to it is the one i'm going to use...also Tifa will be done later today...im only working on the arms right now and then i need to check if everything is properly alligned.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on May 13, 2009, 11:18:09 am
Aww....I was looking forward on that tilt version of Tifa...
Cause it's the original....unlike the japanese...thieves....
Well, if that's the case, then when your Tifa sprite is done, you should give credits to the japanese for the portrait or WE'LL be the thieves.

EDIT: This portrait is great too (Done by Smash)
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Post by: Archael on May 13, 2009, 12:34:40 pm
(http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt312/jimmyjw88/Clessanimation.gif)

this sprite is looking good
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on May 13, 2009, 04:00:55 pm
The portrait would go to the japanese and as soon as i release the sprite they will get credit for it...I got just got home and  i starting to complete tifa...look forward for her later ^-^(...also im pretty sure tifa wont be exactly 100% complete because there will probably be suggestions on how to make her better as people start to use her)
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on May 13, 2009, 10:02:24 pm
GAH! SO MANY INTERRUPTIONS!! Friends are stressful and parents are annoying...and Mr. Softie is unresistable! (im talking about ice cream not the guy haha) so I have to hold Tifa until tomorrow and fix the allignments which are close to being completed and fixing two arms i messed up. Sorry but tifa will be perfect tomorrow! But expect her around 5-6:30 Eastern/pacific time. (lol)
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Post by: Zozma on May 13, 2009, 11:04:07 pm
dont rush it, just switch the arms! to be honest, now that ive made a portrait myself im just going to use mine with your sprite for my patch.

Tifa with the "Brawler" job even tho she wont join i guess :(
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Post by: Smash on May 14, 2009, 10:04:32 am
I was thinking on making a whole new Tifa portrait from scratch you could use, yet in a different pose.



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The reason being that, I made a custom Tifa sprite concept myself, and thought on continuing it... But, meh. You already are finishing yours..

No worries, I shall desist..
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Post by: Cheetah on May 14, 2009, 02:04:15 pm
Well...if we end up with this many portraits, at least one will be able to me used for an AC Tifa sprite if it is ever made.
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on May 14, 2009, 06:46:08 pm
Tifa has been completed! Portrait was done by the japanese person whp created the original tifa. If you notice any mistakes during gameplay please tell me...I used shishi but you can always spot more mistakes during gameplay! Now onto the AC version...portraits are welcome! (lmao)
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Post by: Kuraudo Sutoraifu on May 14, 2009, 07:22:59 pm
Great job!
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on May 14, 2009, 11:14:25 pm
Quote from: "Voldemort"(http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt312/jimmyjw88/Clessanimation.gif)

this sprite is looking good

Thanks Arch ^^
And great job Miroshi.
Yea, perhaps some of the portraits can be use for Tifa AC like Cheetah said.
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Post by: Mental_Gear on August 24, 2009, 06:45:46 am
Why is this not in the custom sprites section yet?
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Post by: Zozma on August 24, 2009, 08:52:50 am
The person never submitted it.. i keep asking people to do so but they just dont listen.

She does need a good bit of touching up tho..
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Post by: Mental_Gear on August 24, 2009, 10:10:47 am
How easy is it to make an .spr given the spritesheet?
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Post by: Luiakyn on August 24, 2009, 11:05:37 am
Very easy. Load up Shishi, import either an iso or .spr (depending on the version). If an iso, select someone, import .bmp, export as .spr. Done. If just a .spr, import .bmp, export .spr.
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Post by: Mental_Gear on August 24, 2009, 11:10:15 am
I mean make an .spr from an image like the ones posted in this topic.
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on August 26, 2009, 04:55:55 pm
Sorry that i havnt submitted it but i havnt had a computer for 3 months. i was attacked by a virus and now my computer is non-responsive. i was able to get a connection on my psp but the connection sucks...
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Post by: GeneralStrife on August 26, 2009, 06:10:43 pm
Nice sprite.
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Post by: Zozma on October 04, 2009, 04:32:55 am
OOOKAY

so the tifa sprite is now on the main page for download, HOWEVER, is there ANYONE who would like to improve it or test it because it really does need major touch ups. for one, the boobs are not well defined (compare it to my Deis sprite) another thing the head seems to take an odd shape in certain frames like injured.

just a thought in order to raise the quality of what we already have
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Post by: Seushiro on October 04, 2009, 05:10:48 am
why dont you do it Zozma? u have the reference and the knowledge. . . I also found that problem with cloud (advent children) when he cast spells. ..  its. . . everywhere. . .

I could test the Tifa sprite and make basic corrections if it is with face anims. . .
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Post by: Zozma on October 04, 2009, 05:38:01 am
its the definition in her boobs, it needs probably one more color to show the proper shape instead of looking like she has a big marshmallow strapped to her chest

and then attacked and injured animations her head seems to be shaped weird.

no i don't  have the time for spriting anymore but i know that it needs to be fixed.
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Post by: kafei on October 04, 2009, 06:02:46 am
I bet you could do it, Zoz.  :wink:
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Post by: Zozma on October 04, 2009, 06:51:40 am
of course i can.

its a time issue.
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on January 03, 2010, 01:11:36 am
Zozma has a lot of stuff on his hands. Continuingly pressuring him to do something, frankly, is annoying. If someone cant do something dont pressure them, do it urself or wait until someone else does it. And im sorry I cannot complete the sprite cuz it is REALLY hard to do it without a computer. When I get my laptop next weekend i will try my best at fixing tifa. shes my sprite, my responsibility. If you have a better portrait post it so i can decide whether to use or not. And thankyou Zozma for trying to keep this sprite going and submitting it for me. I understand all the issues youve noticed and i will fix them. Im sorry if i seem a little harsh.
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Post by: Kagebunji on January 03, 2010, 08:19:19 am
Good luck Miroshi, I'm looking forward to this.
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on July 25, 2010, 08:18:40 pm
Ok, yeah, its been a hella long time since ive been here. Ive been so busy lately and crap and whenever i have free time i just couldnt sprite. But i decided to do something today lol
Ok heres a new attempt at Tifa. Front-Diagonal view is from the pic the japanese made with the FF7 characters on it so I decided to base it off that. Right now Tifa has black hair on her sprite just cuz I had the palette already from the japanese's sprite. I think this is pretty decent :D Or, well, Im hoping lol
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Post by: RolyTunedIn on July 25, 2010, 08:29:27 pm
i think it looks alot better than the other one. but the first and last frame is missing the black trim on the shoes.
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on July 25, 2010, 08:31:19 pm
Oh, youre right! Heh oops ill fix that in a little bit lol well as long as you all see all the big changes and stuff. XD
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Post by: mav on July 25, 2010, 11:46:51 pm
Can you change that beige to whitish and give her white eyes too? Looks okay otherwise. Welcome back.
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Post by: Zozma on July 28, 2010, 08:24:43 pm
um... FINALLY
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Post by: GeneralStrife on July 28, 2010, 09:40:02 pm
i miss the huge rack on zozmas tifa
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Post by: Zozma on July 28, 2010, 09:54:43 pm
its okay my other sprites have them too<3
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Post by: GeneralStrife on July 28, 2010, 09:59:07 pm
Quote from: "Zozma"its okay my other sprites have them too<3
i know win
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on July 28, 2010, 11:01:54 pm
Ack, Im sorry guys D: And shes still being worked on. this is just a small preview, more will be done to her sprite lol
and would her shirt look better white? it wouldnt be too bright and off-looking? I actually have an extra color to spare so i could add another color for her shirt...
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on July 29, 2010, 06:53:30 am
Well, I think try changing her skin tone first. In my opinion, I actually kinda like the current white. Your previous version Tifa's white is too bright for me and plus the light skin tone, so the whole sprite looks bright, to me.
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on July 29, 2010, 10:37:55 am
I agree with you. Thats why Id be worried if I changed it.
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Post by: Kagebunji on July 30, 2010, 09:52:44 am
Now this looks fantastic, keep it up.
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Post by: MasterGrand on July 30, 2010, 01:16:23 pm
Good job Miroshi your sprite is horrible ! , good luck .
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on July 30, 2010, 02:51:43 pm
Haha thanks Kagebunji and MasterGrand. :D Assuming you mean good, not horrible ;P And im gonna try reeaall hard at making this sprite look good!
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Post by: Kagebunji on July 30, 2010, 03:59:45 pm
Quote from: "MasterGrand"Good job Miroshi your sprite is horrible.
I lol'd xD
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Post by: Miroshi Beshima on July 30, 2010, 04:11:34 pm
Haha i did too when I read that XD I did like a double take and then I was like "ooooh lol" But at least I understood what he meant lol
Title: Re: Better Tifa Sprite
Post by: MasterGrand on July 30, 2010, 04:21:23 pm
Quote from: "Miroshi Beshima"Haha thanks Kagebunji and MasterGrand. :D
Title: Re: Better Tifa Sprite
Post by: Miroshi Beshima on July 30, 2010, 04:33:14 pm
Haha thanks MasterGrand XD
Title: Re: Better Tifa Sprite
Post by: Miroshi Beshima on August 01, 2010, 03:13:29 pm
Ive been working on the diagonal-back frame and ive been messing with her hair.
The first one is the first design but I think it looks kinda busy. The second seems a lot more simple, but maybe not enough detail? The third is my favorite. Simple but still detailed.
Which one do you guys think is better?
Title: Re: Better Tifa Sprite
Post by: GeneralStrife on August 01, 2010, 03:18:55 pm
The first one looks wierd, i see some sort of cross in her hair, looks like a subliminal message, i like the third one too.
Title: Re: Better Tifa Sprite
Post by: Lijj on August 01, 2010, 03:24:09 pm
3! Looks great
Title: Re: Better Tifa Sprite
Post by: Kagebunji on August 01, 2010, 03:40:38 pm
3 is the best, resemble Knight hair in many ways.