SMACKDOWN

[Archael]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba2h9tqNYAo&feature=sub

[Kokojo]

/boring 46 minute talk to try to decide me on some thing I don't care about.
FAIL

[Dome]

Smackdown...HURRAY! (I open the video)
Boring man instead of wrestlers (Mmm)
46 minutes of boring talk (ARGH!!!)
Runs away from the pc

[Archael]

well I just imagine him smacking people upside the head

[philsov]

I would pay to see Dawkins do the DX "suck it."

[Archael]

I would pay to see Dawkins do the DX "suck it."

what is that?

[Kuraudo Sutoraifu]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwYeY7HB2Gg

Whenever they make the X handmotion over thier DX, that's what he's talking about.

[Archael]

[Samuraiblackbelt]

see what I mean by Voldemort always bring up religion? SHUT THE FUCK UP DICK, KEEP YOUR BELIEFS TO YOURSELF

[Kuraudo Sutoraifu]

Just finished watching.  He's not very good at arguing against design.  Francis Collins, a theist scientist, does a better job of arguing against the design argument.  The design argument will never prove anything.

[Archael]

link to francis collins video

[Kuraudo Sutoraifu]

Link to book: http://www.amazon.com/Language-God-Scie ... 0743286391

Theist media will tell you that his book supports design arguments.  I disagree; He presents several design arguments, then destroys them.  One of his main points is that no matter how statistically improbable a designed universe may make a chance happening, it only makes it improbable, not impossible.  Therefore, no matter how designed the universe is, it does not and cannot prove  existence of God or any sort of intelligent designer.

[AngrySurprisedFace]

link to francis collins video

Yes.
Yes.
Yes...

[Archael]

One of his main points is that no matter how statistically improbable a designed universe may make a chance happening, it only makes it improbable, not impossible.  Therefore, no matter how designed the universe is, it does not and cannot prove  existence of St. Ajora or any sort of intelligent designer.

I think you lost me


- Statistically improbable designed universe may happen via a method
- Statistically improbable designed universe is improbable
- Statistically improbable designed universe is not impossible
- Therefor, statistically improbable designed universe does not and cannot prove existence of g0d?

that's what I'm getting, but I don't understand it

[RavenOfRazgriz]

I think you lost me


- Statistically improbable designed universe may happen via a method
- Statistically improbable designed universe is improbable
- Statistically improbable designed universe is not impossible
- Therefor, statistically improbable designed universe does not and cannot prove existence of g0d?

that's what I'm getting, but I don't understand it

TL;DR: Just because our universe had say, a .0000001% chance of forming the way it needed to in order to support life, and then have intelligent life evolve from it, does not prove or disprove the existence of any higher being because statistically improbable != impossible and requiring intelligent design of that caliber, simply because it is possible on a technical level for it to happen without said intelligent design.

Clearer?

[Kuraudo Sutoraifu]

You seemed to get it, as your bullet points summed it up pretty well.  What specifically don't you understand?

[DarthPaul]

TL;DR: Just because our universe had say, a .0000001% chance of forming the way it needed to in order to support life, and then have intelligent life evolve from it, does not prove or disprove the existence of any higher being because statistically improbable != impossible and requiring intelligent design of that caliber, simply because it is possible on a technical level for it to happen without said intelligent design.

Clearer?

No, I understood it before and now your wording has confused me.

[Asmo X]

Came into this thread expecting wrestling, left disappointed.

[Dome]

Came into this thread expecting wrestling, left disappointed.

[Mental_Gear]

I loaded that page on my PS3 and the browser froze.

Arch, you bastard.