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Poll
Question: Should a Mercenaries Demo be released in its current state?
Option 1: Yes votes: 7
Option 2: No votes: 22
Title: Mercenaries "Demo"
Post by: LastingDawn on December 25, 2008, 11:41:33 pm
Alright, I'll be 100% honest, this thing is next to unplayable, somewhere along the lines, I introduced several new glitches, which I'm at a loss to fix, you can't look at what your abilities are in battle (from the scroll down sheet of classes) one scenario (which worked perfectly a while back) with the ambushing Traveler, in the Mandalia Plains now freezes the game, along with checking the Unit List in battle. Oy, so many problems sprung relatively out of nowhere...  but if you fellows still want me to release it, then feel free to ask.
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Post by: The Damned on December 25, 2008, 11:43:50 pm
I think would personally prefer you to take your time.

However, more information is needed. For instance, with the regards to the demo that you had planned to release, what exactly did you want "completed" by the time it came out?
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Post by: DarthPaul on December 25, 2008, 11:44:08 pm
I think you should hold of until it's playable or you might get n00bs who "can't figure it out". Even if you tell them it does'nt work they will complain anyways so why not wait until the bugs are worked out.
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Post by: TRC on December 25, 2008, 11:51:27 pm
I say to hell with the demo, dont feel rushed. Just release the game when its ready. IMO. Though I'd still try it out in its current state, but you wont be hearing me complain about the shit.
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Post by: LastingDawn on December 26, 2008, 12:01:35 am
Well, I had hoped mainly that my events would be working right, along with all the game freezing glitches, but alas...I lost Mandalia Plains somewhere along the lines so I had to redo that, (I like the new lines better anyhow), but I lost the methods of making an ambushing unit which would have been the unique choice of choosing to save Lavian, as it stands, choosing that option new freezes the game. When a unit tries to attack. Really as it stands this Demo would only be good for the script. The classes are far from prepared. Hymns, work perfectly, Traveler's done, Knight's not... very different... oh if only I had that formuls, I'd be feeling much more confident, eh well.
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Post by: Austin on December 26, 2008, 12:26:31 am
Just hold off for now, there isn't much point in having a demo that can't demonstrate anything. Take your time and get it to where you're satisfied with the finished product, then release something. :wink:
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Post by: LastingDawn on December 26, 2008, 12:29:01 am
Thank you everyone for your understanding, but if anyone would like to see this "demo" feel free to PM me.
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Post by: Cheetah on December 26, 2008, 02:58:15 am
Yeah take your time LD.
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Post by: Zozma on December 26, 2008, 05:23:02 am
i agree, take your time :D
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Post by: Algus on December 26, 2008, 05:28:12 am
Yeah, take your time.
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Post by: Archael on December 28, 2008, 01:37:04 am
Take time.
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Post by: trickstardude7 on December 28, 2008, 02:24:13 am
Imma say the same thing x] take your time.
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Post by: Shade on December 28, 2008, 05:45:29 am
So I was almost only guy that wanted demo earlier was I?
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Post by: DarthPaul on December 28, 2008, 11:50:33 am
Wow 20 "Take your times" to only 3 "Give it to me's".
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Post by: Shade on December 28, 2008, 12:14:49 pm
yeah it's amazing usually there is alot of people that want games at that second.
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Post by: DarthPaul on December 28, 2008, 12:18:41 pm
Yea I know it's amazing how patient everyone is.  Or it might be that they want 1.3 more.
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Post by: Zephyr on December 28, 2008, 12:24:29 pm
I was hoping for either one but when he said it wasn't playable I figured it'd be best to wait. In 1.3's case, I did a poll too but the majority voted to wait so... yeah  :?
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Post by: TRC on December 28, 2008, 02:58:22 pm
I just don't see the point in playing a demo that is "unplayable" in his eyes. You dig? >_>
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Post by: Shade on December 28, 2008, 04:08:06 pm
I see the point because of fact that he can give like 3 fights that won't tell storyline alot.
Like that in Arch's video the battle where Ramza is on tournament.
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Post by: Archael on December 28, 2008, 04:20:44 pm
Quote from: "darthpaul"Wow 20 "Take your times" to only 3 "Give it to me's".

if the editor himself says it's not worth playing it in current state I'd take his word for it
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Post by: DarthPaul on December 28, 2008, 04:31:57 pm
Same here Arch same here.
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Post by: ShadowGamerDarkly on December 30, 2008, 08:54:22 am
Ya I agree with everyone here.
Take your time.
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Post by: LifeFlayer on January 04, 2009, 01:49:38 pm
I believe it would be kept as a closed beta of some sort. The main purpose of beta is to both showcase your progress and to work out some of the bugs. I am sure there will be knowledgeable testers willing to work with you on fixing those bugs.
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Post by: Zalge on January 04, 2009, 01:57:11 pm
While I would love to at least have a little taste of this patch right now... I'm gunna have to say take your time =P
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Post by: dwib on January 04, 2009, 02:16:50 pm
take your time... just hurry the fuck up!!!
dahoehaohgCYBERBULLYINGchaoihoe
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Post by: Zalge on January 04, 2009, 03:08:18 pm
lol
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Post by: LastingDawn on January 05, 2009, 01:37:06 pm
Hmm, that's actually not a bad idea LifeFlayer, I do really need some assistanc other then myself to test these out, alright! A closed beta it is! Until I get... everything working right, a select few will be given a patch, and post their thoughts in... well, this thread I guess, thanks forthe idea LifeFlayer! I will be sending it out in the coming days, (won't really be here that long today.
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Post by: TRC on January 07, 2009, 08:30:15 am
id definitely help with testing, if you need help feel free to send me the patch >_>
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Post by: gasm on January 08, 2009, 09:25:54 pm
I would be up for it. It should be good practice for me, since I do work as a game tester during summer.
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Post by: Goomba on January 10, 2009, 03:37:44 pm
Man, this mod will be awesome. I am gonna cannibalize the hell out of your awesome scripts, man. The things I saw in Arch's demo videos....blew my mind.  :shock:
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Post by: LastingDawn on January 14, 2009, 12:26:57 pm
I assure you Cheetah has made the Dorter event much better, his fixes to such are truly praise worthy and will fully be seen in the demo.
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Post by: Fatesadvent on January 15, 2009, 02:46:52 am
Here's another vote for holding it off.
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Post by: VincentCraven on January 15, 2009, 08:25:04 am
If you want anything to be tested, let me know.  But only if it is helping!

Otherwise, [insert most common phrase in topic here].
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Post by: PX_Timefordeath on January 17, 2009, 02:42:05 am
Just wondering, do you any rediculously impossible time we can expect a playable version? If it's late enough, I might just be able to set up a working emulatet =)
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Post by: LastingDawn on January 19, 2009, 05:44:10 am
I do apologize, I've been a bit ill lately. I find it very difficult to concentrate when I seem to have this never ending fatigue. But I won't give a release date, an ETA or any such thing, 2009 is all I can say for a playable demo.
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Post by: spoonman on January 20, 2009, 03:01:15 pm
I'd love to play the demo, anyway. Even if you just want someone to spot new bugs - of course, I wouldn't know the first thing about fixing them. I understand your fatigue... I'm always drained of energy, myself.
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Post by: Goomba on January 20, 2009, 03:52:16 pm
Yeah, that's the sucky thing about computers emitting all this toxic radiation. It starts to get to you after a while.
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Post by: TRC on January 22, 2009, 07:08:35 am
indeed *vomits*
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Post by: Archael on January 22, 2009, 08:20:49 am
Quote from: "LastingDawn"I do apologize, I've been a bit ill lately. I find it very difficult to concentrate when I seem to have this never ending fatigue. But I won't give a release date, an ETA or any such thing, 2009 is all I can say for a playable demo.

Maybe take some time off away from the patcher / organizing alot of data

for awhile... say 3-5 days

that helps

anything done for too long (even if you enjoy it) will get repetitive fast
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Post by: PX_Timefordeath on January 25, 2009, 08:59:37 pm
So... getting straight to the point. Which selected few will play test this jewel later in the year?
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Post by: tithin on January 25, 2009, 10:01:14 pm
I realise I've not been in the community long, but I'd be interested in playing this beta to test it.
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Post by: LastingDawn on February 01, 2009, 05:08:35 pm
Anyone who really wants to, when I make the announcement. Personally I Really want out the new text editor, I hate that all descriptions and the like are otherwise undone through such. It's basically the main thing stopping me from releasing a demo by this point.
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Post by: TRC on February 08, 2009, 04:30:26 pm
We must give melonhead some "encouragement" imo.
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Post by: Archael on February 08, 2009, 05:01:00 pm
lol more pressure

hes gonna explode
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Post by: Lycansbane on February 08, 2009, 05:32:17 pm
Wow too bad the demo didn't come out but busy last 2 months and just got back on but i still can't wait for it to be released. LD your a genius so can't wait to play it when ya have it ready. So i'm gonna sit back and wait besides i'm currently playing Robotrek and Romancing The Three Kindoms 3 on my SNES Emulator so far pretty decent games LoL
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Post by: PX_Timefordeath on February 08, 2009, 06:48:14 pm
PICS NAO!! Wait...
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Post by: VincentCraven on February 08, 2009, 09:30:07 pm
It's amazing how much we're starting to rely on melonhead.

Ahh, where would we be without him?

Rad's Toolkit anyone?
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Post by: TRC on February 20, 2009, 08:22:06 am
Praise be to melonhead!
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Post by: Smitson on February 21, 2009, 04:23:40 pm
Quote from: "TRC"Praise be to melonhead!
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All hail the melon!
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Post by: Goomba on February 21, 2009, 07:43:27 pm
We should send butt pants to Melon Head's house when he completes the text editor.
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Post by: LastingDawn on March 01, 2009, 11:35:08 pm
Still a Ton of work to do! But...

(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n198/LastingDawn/SCUS_94221_01032009_232819_0655.png)

If we can't get it working by the time I finish everything, this will suffice for a demo, no?
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Post by: boomkick on March 01, 2009, 11:46:26 pm
OMG COOLNESS :D

Yeah it looks good, but upside down?
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on March 02, 2009, 12:00:44 am
Yea. Why is it upside down? ^^
Anyway, can't wait to test its demo ^^
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Post by: LastingDawn on March 02, 2009, 12:07:09 am
Well, that's the kinks were working out currently.
It's not only upside down but the picture isn't fully displayed right.

We should find a better alternative, hopefully...
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Post by: tithin on March 02, 2009, 12:14:19 am
(I actually like it how it is now..)
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on March 02, 2009, 01:15:42 am
I agreed with tithin.
This looks kinda nice ^^
Lol
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Post by: FFMaster on March 02, 2009, 01:21:14 am
Right now, it kind of reminds me of the old days of comic books (not a bad thing ok?)
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Post by: Cheetah on March 02, 2009, 01:34:19 am
Very exciting progress LD. Are the colors how you plan on having them?
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Post by: SentinalBlade on March 02, 2009, 02:07:24 am
no, the R and B values got switched :(

so every color has those numbers.... its now BGR D:
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Post by: Kokojo on March 02, 2009, 03:31:02 am
This is very awesome. Let out a guide afther :P
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Post by: LastingDawn on March 02, 2009, 07:19:33 am
As SentinalBlade pointed out values are switched, but I think the new color's don't look too bad from the original, which is this...

(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n198/LastingDawn/Final%20Fantasy%20Tactics/Mercenariesposter.jpg)
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on March 02, 2009, 08:06:15 am
Oooo.....this is nice ^^
Cool ^^
Can't wait to see it starts production ^^
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Post by: DarthPaul on March 02, 2009, 10:15:59 am
I dojn't think the change to blue is that bad and for a starting menu it actually looks pretty cool.
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Post by: LastingDawn on March 02, 2009, 11:22:47 am
Alright, well thanks to Wareya (again...) I fixed the problem with the centering.

(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n198/LastingDawn/SCUS_94221_02032009_111338_0604.png)
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Post by: boomkick on March 02, 2009, 06:02:23 pm
The blue tint looks cool.
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Post by: PX_Timefordeath on March 02, 2009, 11:10:13 pm
Hope this means we get a demo soon.
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Post by: TRC on March 05, 2009, 07:54:33 pm
*eagerly anticipates any good news*
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on March 05, 2009, 11:00:39 pm
Nice one ^^
Can't wait till it's done ^^
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Post by: dwib on March 06, 2009, 12:57:47 am
When it is upside down and blue-ish, Agrias looks like Ramza, which is good
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Post by: tithin on March 06, 2009, 12:59:39 am
Quote from: "dwib"When it is upside down and blue-ish, Agrias looks like Ramza, which is good

gonna look up a hentai of dis
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Post by: Asmo X on March 06, 2009, 10:44:43 am
The art is great but im not sure about the composition. Too much empty space to Agrias' right and the picture should really have been centered. If possible, crop the left side of the pic when you use it for the title screen.
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Post by: Archael on March 06, 2009, 12:28:49 pm
I am really not sure about the faces being upside down and blue.


(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n198/LastingDawn/SCUS_94221_02032009_111338_0604.png)

And the extra black border there is really not looking that great


the art is good, yes

but you did something there which is off
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Post by: Asmo X on March 06, 2009, 12:56:18 pm
I was talking about the original picture by the way
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Post by: LastingDawn on March 06, 2009, 04:07:57 pm
Indeed, now that I have Photoshop, I should be able to fix all of this and get rid of that border.
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Post by: k3yblad3 on March 16, 2009, 05:29:33 pm
Man, I've been reading up on this and I've also seen some test vids of it on youtube. Can't wait for the demo and for the official release. Hope its soon. Can you give a time estimate?
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Post by: LastingDawn on March 17, 2009, 02:33:40 pm
A time estimate? I said the demo would be out by Christmas, needless to say that didn't happen, and with some turbulent things going on in my life at this point (trying to find more schooling and not knowing if I have a job from day to day) admittedly my work on Mercenaries has suffered, but things are moving, my only trouble is not having a dedicated spriter, in real life, and on the computer, I have no skill in art, this is not my strong point.
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Post by: k3yblad3 on March 17, 2009, 03:59:20 pm
Sorry to hear it, hopefully things will look up.
I'd offer my assistance with spriting, but I have no idea how to do it :/
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Post by: Arvine on March 28, 2009, 06:17:29 pm
Can you send me the demo PLEASE I HAVE NO LIFE
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Post by: Smitson on March 28, 2009, 06:21:46 pm
Quote from: "Arvine"Can you send me the demo PLEASE I HAVE NO LIFE

Impatient.
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Post by: jimmyjw88 on March 28, 2009, 08:45:17 pm
Lol. Yea. You'll just have to wait like everyone else.
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Post by: Sephirot24 on March 29, 2009, 11:18:11 am
We are all awaiting good news :P

I'll play it as soon as I finish 1.3 though. But I'll happily watch some vids ^^
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Post by: LastingDawn on April 02, 2009, 02:32:40 pm
Well I'm sorry Sephirot, but at this current point I can't figure out how to put mp3's into this certain format that the game uses. As it stands though, nearly everything is done, now I'm just waiting on Razele to release his ASM hacks. Also in real life things have gone Very topsy-turvy. Over the course of a day my job literally disappears. They were there yesterday when I left but when I got there in the morning there was no one there, the place was empty and I was out of a job.

So while I look into schooling options work on Mercenaries might be hurt a bit, I was given a pretty significant severance pay, but I can't devote most of my time to Mercenaries at this current point. Now is the time to get my life together, a retail job can't last forever or go anywhere for me.
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Post by: Sephirot24 on April 02, 2009, 02:40:10 pm
That sounds awful man... (about your IRL job). But as you say, now is the time to get your life together and get a nice job. I'm sure you will find one soon, don't worry. This world-crisis thing is some heavy shit but just hang in there and keep trying, you'll eventually succeed.

About the song not being able to be put into the game I can understand. Don't worry about that for now. Besides you'll release a Demo when you work a little further with the patch, so there's plenty of time to figure out if it is or not possible to add music until the full patch is finished.

I wish you luck!
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Post by: Smitson on April 02, 2009, 05:50:12 pm
Ahh fucking rescission eh, what do you work as LD?

Do you have a ETA for when the demo will be released?
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Post by: Arvine on April 02, 2009, 07:56:48 pm
Too bad man get your life together games can wait even though half of me is killing myself for saying this
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Post by: Zozma on April 02, 2009, 08:05:23 pm
its happened to me too with the IRL delays, im just getting things back together, tho im not having job problems. Take your time LD and sort the important stuff out first of course :)
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Post by: ffta707 on September 15, 2009, 09:05:46 pm
Is this going to be free?
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Post by: Arvine on September 15, 2009, 09:09:27 pm
Quote from: "ffta707"Is this going to be free?
most likely but its a patch so you need the original game which probably needs to be found on ebay
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Post by: LastingDawn on September 15, 2009, 09:26:20 pm
Oh, it's definitely free! If I had even threatened to say I would put a price on it, Square Enix would descend from above high and strike me, and probably the site down, so yes, 100% Free.
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Post by: Zaen on September 15, 2009, 09:52:23 pm
So how are things coming along? From Arch's videos, it looks highly playable, though it's probably some of the events and the sprites that need the work, I assume.
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Post by: LastingDawn on September 15, 2009, 09:55:55 pm
Sprites and Events, and a lot of testing, it is almost fully playable and the next release is planned to be a Training Demo, which I have been talking about for months now.
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Post by: Zaen on September 15, 2009, 09:58:27 pm
Cool. This is really starting to shape up now. If you need any help testing, I got plenty of free time to spare.
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Post by: MiKeMiTchi on September 15, 2009, 10:33:18 pm
QuoteSprites and Events, and a lot of testing, it is almost fully playable and the next release is planned to be a Training Demo, which I have been talking about for months now.

All of us can test it, Zaen. :)


Quoteplanned to be a Training Demo

Never heard of that, 'til now. Good to hear.
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Post by: beawulfx on September 15, 2009, 11:34:13 pm
Yeah I don't think finding people to test it will be a problem for you LD. We are all ready to undertake that great burden for you.
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Post by: Arvine on September 16, 2009, 08:22:08 pm
testing is like a joke
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Post by: Archael on September 16, 2009, 09:38:32 pm
Quote from: "LastingDawn"Well I'm sorry Sephirot, but at this current point I can't figure out how to put mp3's into this certain format that the game uses.

just use one of the un-used songs, those are already in the format you desire

Zozma told me some of them fit a world map / formation screen music very well

 little wing.. something?
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Post by: LastingDawn on September 16, 2009, 09:39:40 pm
Yes, the song he spoke of was Little Wing, which truth be told, I'm not sure what song that is, hehe... though that's a bit of an upbeat song... I'll see if I can't find something more fitting to the tone.
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Post by: Sephirot24 on September 16, 2009, 11:28:04 pm
@Arch: We already knew we could use those un-used songs from vanilla. We wanted to make / insert new music though.. but IIRC you've already read that topic we made about it... and unfortunately it seems there's no way for now T_T

Oh well... at least the project IS getting different music.
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Post by: Wasabi on September 17, 2009, 02:00:42 am
I would definitely love to test this patch.