Final Fantasy Hacktics

...now I want to use it at you because he's been using it for over a year...

It happened on a Mandalia Plains (aka Holycrapthere'samillionofem Plains) random battle if that helps

Were there two Priests present in that battle when the error occurred?  I have a small theory on what happened and I'll laugh if it's correct, but it relies on both Priests being present.  I've gone through and other than what I'm thinking, there was nothing wrong with either the Ability settings on Protect or that battle's ENTD settings.

Quote from: RavenOfRazgriz on April 30, 2013, 09:31:25 pm
Were there two Priests present in that battle when the error occurred?  I have a small theory on what happened and I'll laugh if it's correct, but it relies on both Priests being present.  I've gone through and other than what I'm thinking, there was nothing wrong with either the Ability settings on Protect or that battle's ENTD settings.

Hmm.. I can't rightly remember.

But, I think I know what you are thinking - in some way, when the game checked the wizard it found him within range of a priest, even though it wasn't the right priest?

That would be funny. I know nothing about PSX code, but that seems highly unlikely. It would surprise me if that were the case.

What if, by astronomically slim chances, both priests had the same name? That would increase the odds of that particular error a bit more toward plausible eh?

EDIT: turns out I had a savestate from the loading screen for that battle.

There are two priests actually.

Two wizards, two knights, and a ranger ( just for reference sake )

The priests both have distribute.. now here is a crazy ( and dumb ) idea..

What if distribute wigged out because the priests were at full HP and then distributed the protect across the field to the wizard? Have you guys messed with it's settings any?


Lastly, I can attempt to recreate to the best of my memory the moves I did leading up to the bug. It wasn't long into the fight because I was just checking one last Move-Find item and the only character I was really moving around was Snake (pre-fight Invis is my favorite kind of Invis!)

EDIT 2.0: The priests have different names

EDIT 3.0: One dry run yielded no success. Too many turns involved for everything to turn out the exact same.

It has to do with the Unit ID.  For some reason both Priests in that fight have the same Unit ID, and I've never intentionally messed with that so I don't know what the hell that could cause.

I'm checking through all the Random Battle ENTDs now and making sure I catch all these errors in one sweep.  I'll put out a v1.94 in a bit to fix this since it affects gameplay in a clearly negative and buggy manner and is present in multiple fights.

Quote from: RavenOfRazgriz on April 30, 2013, 10:19:31 pm
It has to do with the Unit ID.  For some reason both Priests in that fight have the same Unit ID, and I've never intentionally messed with that so I don't know what the hell that could cause.

I'm checking through all the Random Battle ENTDs now and making sure I catch all these errors in one sweep.  I'll put out a v1.94 in a bit to fix this since it affects gameplay in a clearly negative and buggy manner and is present in multiple fights.

I had assumed no two units could have the same ID, which is why I was skeptical of the two priest's scenario matching the situation I had imagined.

It makes perfect sense of course now knowing they do in fact have the same ID.

I'm glad we caught that! 

I smell a Corsican Brothers Patch!!!*

(The Corsican Brothers was a movie made by cheech and chong in which if one brother was hit by something, the other would feel the pain from it)

small grammar stuff

"MA Save" help file reads "Stats: PA +1"

"Linen Robe"'s description is identical to "Leather Clothes"

The second one was fixed in 1.94.

The first one is fixed for whenever a new bugfix release comes out.

Hahaha @ Choto. I was thinking the exact same thing when I read it was unit ID related but i didnt think anyone would get the reference! XD

couple things

grammar: Besrodio: "If this person mistaken or lying"

Dammit people, we have dem spoiler tags for a reason, use em.

Be sure to leave some feedback on the event proceeding the next battle ;P Worked quite hard on tht one.

Just some small things. Also found some typos, but I told Elric about them already.

(I can vouch for the weird "crossbows not showing the damage they're doing on hit" bug.)

Having just upgraded to v1.941 and fought two matches/fights, I've noticed two bugs already:


1. Piscodemon's Energy Blast still says it has Effect: 1 instead of the Effect: 3 it has now.

2. Wizard no longer has Tornado. They instead have Death twice.


As per bold, the latter is the far more important one and I'm honestly not sure how no one had noticed that (or at least hadn't spoken up about it) since v1.94x has been out for a week already. But, yeah, when reshuffling things, it would seem that Tornado accidentally got left out this time, which is a shame since I wanted to buy it this time to have the fight against those damn turtles go faster.

Quick EDIT: Speaking of speed, I'm not sure if the order is wrong in the v1.94 update in the download thread, but Dimensionalist actually has Float before Quick in-game and not the other way around; personally, I think this is for the best if the update post is not what's in error. The order of that and the other changed classes I can see--so all but Summoner & Lancer--seems otherwise fine.

(I apologize for double-posting so soon again.)

Considering I already edited the above post and possibly have seen another significant glitch/bug already, I think it's merited though.

So, having literally just finished the Zirekile Falls battle with the Ranger, upon winning this time, unlike in v1.92, I received no prompt to actually recruit her despite the fact that she was still alive/not Crystallized. I'm not sure though if she's supposed only randomly join you, since I know that's possible, which is why I only said it was a "possible" bug.

Still, if she is, then it seems as with Tornado and the crossbows, something got knocked out of place in the upgrade.

Not sure if this is a bug or not, and I don't have a SS of it, but once (a while back) on Barius Hill South I ran into the Beastmaster/Chocobos fight....and there weren't any chocobos there, just the BM.  Is this supposed to be able to happen?  It seems odd in retrospect.

--Arek