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[Archael]

I know people who have smoked cigarettes since they were 12 and they are 80 now and have no problems, no cancer, nothing.

So do I

and I know people that have only been NEAR 2nd hand smoke for only some months and are now dead due to cancer in the vocal cords

whats ur point?

are you going to tell me you don't believe that cigarette smoke INCREASES the odds of developing health conditions?

lmao

Also, people who drink almost daily and have developed no problems.

so do I

and I also know people who drink daily and are useless human beings

again, ur point?

are you going to tell me alcohol isn't a problem in our society?

again, lmao





you got a strange way of coming to conclusions , sir

albeit flawed

[DarthPaul]

I wasn't even going to point out the flaws in his argument and let him stew in them.

[Archael]

you can't act like cigarettes and alcohol are OK just because not every cigarette smoker and alcohol consumer doesn't develop problems

that's fucking ridiculous

not every crack user dies of crack

that doesn't mean crack is OK for your health



silly

[CidIII]

You said NO ONE handles alcohol or tobacco well, which is an incorrect statement. again, lmao

That's my point.

Obviously, it does increase that chance of developing problems.

[DarthPaul]

Actually smoking weed doesn't lead to lung cancer too often. Though the THC causes testicular cancer.

[CidIII]

http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNe ... 8820080129

[DarthPaul]

You said no one handles alcohol or tobacco well, which is an incorrect statement. again, lmao

That's my point.

Obviously, it does increase that chance of developing problems.

Do the smokers you know have the strongest most healthy lungs they could have.

Do the alcoholics not get drunk and do extremely stupid things.


Just because they haven't lost a lung of liver doesn't mean it didn't negatively effect them.

[DarthPaul]

http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUSHKG10478820080129

"Studies in the past have demonstrated that cannabis can cause cancer, but few have established a strong link between cannabis use and the actual incidence of lung cancer."

[CidIII]

Nice job not reading the entire article and only the first paragraph.

[DarthPaul]

Thank you. I saw that and decided why not "try" to ruin the credibility of the article.

This is an argument I have to at least "try" or I lose.

[CidIII]

Well in doing that and admitting it you ruin the credibility of yourself as a participant in this "argument".

[DarthPaul]

How so? I just proved I was too impatient to read the article after all.

That is the second paragraph.

The first told me all I needed to know.

[CidIII]

You don't see how that ruins your credibility?

[DarthPaul]

No I don't, it showed I was willing to bend a few rules but I have yet to say something that states my point of view has no merits.

[CidIII]

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[Archael]

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oh ok

[Celdia]

Clever.

[CidIII]

So, no one sees how attacking the credibility of an 350 word article you haven't read ruins your credibility, besides me?

[DarthPaul]

Nope it ruins the thought that I care about the argument in question. My credibility however remains intact.

Also I was using a quote from the article. How does that even come close to ruining my credibility, even if the quote is out of context.

[SentinalBlade]

DP no offense, but if you consider reading the opening paragraph about 'in the past' studies and thats all you base this arguement off of, you cant be considered creditable.

if you wanted to only read ONE, you shouldve read this one.

"In this high-exposure group, lung cancer risk rose by 5.7 times for patients who smoked more than a joint a day for 10 years, or two joints a day for 5 years, after adjusting for other variables, including cigarette smoking"

Not the best circumstances, but it makes plenty of counter points here. you cant be creditable when you argue with an article much more in depth...its not that it ruins your 'careability' its that it makes you less able to be proved/argue against if you dont read the entire arguements.

that is creditability loss.